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Google Launches International Campaign For Recognition of Same-Sex Marriage

Apple and many other tech companies have offered benefits to same-sex couples (and sometimes made them a sticking point) for quite some time now, but Google is taking its position of inclusion for sexual minorities outside the company itself; the company has announced an international campaign to promote legal marriage equality for same-sex couples, called "Legalize Love." According to CNN's version of the story, while this represents Google's policies overall, the campaign will at first "focus on countries like Singapore, where certain homosexual activities are illegal, and Poland, which has no legal recognition of same-sex couples." dot429 quotes Mark Palmer-Edgecumbe of Google, speaking in London Saturday at a summit where the initiative was announced: "We want our employees who are gay or lesbian or transgender to have the same experience outside the office as they do in the office. It is obviously a very ambitious piece of work." Also at CNET.

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  1. it's a plot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    See corporations are people without gender. They want to be able to marry each other.

    Then they can file a joint tax return and have children.

    1. Re:it's a plot. by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Funny

      It will be their undoing. Corporations were immortal, but marriage and kids kill anyone.

  2. Why not start at home? by sandytaru · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The US still has a long way to go for full LGBT equality. I can understand stuff like trying to stop stoning of homosexuals in countries where it is illegal, but as for the same-sex marriage fight, it hasn't even been won on the home front yet. I hate to call it a war... but why expand the territory of a war when you're still losing battles in disputed territory you're trying to occupy?

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    1. Re:Why not start at home? by 0123456 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I believe you'll find that most non-Americans are already a bit incensed about American companies telling them how to run their country. I suspect this kind of behaviour is more likely to increase the backlash than help anyone's human rights.

  3. Bad idea by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Corporations should stick to their core mandate, and not get into 'social engineering'.

    Be it a 'worthy' cause or not, its not their place to stick their noses into it and 'pick sides'.

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    1. Re:Bad idea by codewarren · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, I get so tired of companies who try to stick up for the rights of their employees. Damn them. Why can't they all just exploit their employees to the max like everyone else.

    2. Re:Bad idea by hawguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But their is a difference between says all couples of any gender pairing in our emply gets benefits and campaigning to make it so everywhere.

      There's a good business case to do so. If company A tries to do the right thing by granting benefits to domestic partners of all employees regardless of gender, but they compete against companies that do not do so because there's no legal requirement, then company A is at a competitive disadvantage. They could reduce benefits for their employees, or they could lobby to level the playing field for what they think is "right".

      Companies lobby for lots of things that benefit themselves (tax exemptions, lax environmental laws, etc), so what's the problem with companies lobbying for something that they think is the right thing for their employees?

  4. Why not get government out of marriage? by trout007 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As far as the government is concerned marriage should be treated like any other contract. They should have no say in the contents. If there is a breech take it to court and let a jury decide. Then purge out of law any benefits or tax considerations based on material status and just people as individuals.

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  5. Re:So now Google is literally a bunch of faggots? by wisnoskij · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, I am not promoting the original commenter view, but then how about 3 or more mature adults who love each other?
    Why do corporations and governments have any say in who we love, live with, and raise together?
    The whole gay marriage issue seems like such a tiny specific issue to have a problem with.
    And the how they always bring love into it, always bugs me. Love has nothing to do with legal marriage or what homosexuals want. Homosexuals, in general, want one thing to legalise marriage and gay sex. They do not want to legalise pedo-love, bestiality, or polygamy.

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  6. Polygamy by downhole · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I generally support gay rights, but I've always been a little meh on the idea of gay marriage. What I'd really like to hear is for a gay marriage advocate to explain to me why polygamy should be illegal yet gay marriage should be legal. If we should let two guys or two girls get married because they really love each other and want to be together forever and all of that, then why shouldn't we let a guy marry two or three or more girls (or whatever other combination you can think of) if they all really love each other and want to be together in that way? It isn't something completely absurd like marrying dogs or cars or something - there have been and still are many societies where polygamy is normal and accepted and widely practiced. So why not?

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    1. Re:Polygamy by Asmor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Polygamy should be legal, for all the reasons you suggest. As long as all the participants are of sound mind and everything's consensual, who has any right to tell people they can't engage in polygamy?

      The government shouldn't have any say in this sort of thing whatsoever.

    2. Re:Polygamy by heehau · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The main difference is in the language of marriage laws. Two consenting, non-related adults etc. etc. can get married IFF they are not of the same sex. The institution of marriage LEGALLY remains the same if the exclusion is removed, since that exclusion serves no functional purpose in the legal framework of marriage. To the law, a same-sex couple is the same as a different-sex couple that can't produce offspring (with each other).

      If society decides to evolve towards polygamy, it certainly can do so, but laws and the judicial system have to changed in a much more fundamental way. The concept of divorce needs to be amended (who leaves whom? is the whole marriage severed when one of the spouses leaves? if not, who gets what?). We have to decide how biological and legal constructs matter (if X is child of A and B, who are married to each other and to C, how is the relationship between X and A different from that between X and C?).

      None of those changes are too difficult to figure out, I suppose, but they are an obstacle that same-sex marriage doesn't have.

  7. Re:Marriage =/= legal union. by Sique · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Marriage is a religious rite [...]

    This is not true for instance in Germany and many other european countries. There marriage is a legal procedure, performed by a municipal clerk. You can only go to your church, synagoge, mosque or whatever the sacred place is called in your religion to celebrate your marriage if you can show the official document sealing your marriage. Also the legal implications coming with marriage require the official procedure and the accompagnying paperwork.

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  8. Re:So now Google is literally a bunch of faggots? by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They do not want to legalise pedo-love, bestiality, or polygamy.

    Marriage confers rights that the state blocks from others. The issue isn't who can get married, but why the right to be "next of kin" is banned from private contracts, and only allowed in contracts "blessed" but the state. beastiality isn't marriage. That's like saying you should be able to marry your hand. Or poligimatically marry both hands. You hand can't consent, and can't own land, so the right of "next of kin" is denied to it already. Same as animals. You can form a trust to hold land on behalf of your favorite cat, but the cat can't own land. It's not about marying whoever you want. It's a rights issue about why some people can't enter into a legal contract with others on the same framework as other people.

    That, and Congress has written a law explicitly contradicting the Constitution. The Defense of Marriage Act contradicts the "full faith and credit" clause. State A marries two gays, then they are married in all 50 states, as per the Constitution. Why Congress would pass an unconstitutional law explicitly against gay marriage, then take it upon themselves to champion the cause is beyond me. Just go back to Constitutional law. Let one state recognize it (say, New Hampshire) and then the gays can go there to get married, and then that "contract" will be recognized in the other 49. Problem solved. You can live in a place that doesn't recognize gay marriage, but still follows the Constitution, right?

  9. Re:Marriage =/= legal union. by pe1rxq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No problem with that.. but only if would stop recognizing marriage at all.
    Scrap it from law all together. That way we would still end up with equallity for all.

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  10. Re:Faggotry by iamhassi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google should not be meddling with this. What happened to 'not be evil' This reeks of evil.

    i don't think this is "evil", but i agree, google doesn't really need to be advertising one way or the other. Offering it to employees in same sex relationships is up to them, but to advertise? That's pushing it too far. What's next, abortion? I don't like seeing companies get political

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  11. Re:What about ladyboys? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

    where the gender field is a variable-length string instead of a one-bit value

    640K of gender bits ought to be enough for anybody.

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  12. Re:Marriage =/= legal union. by Kjella · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here in Norway you can go to a municipal clerk, but churches, mosques and other organizations like humanitarians can get a "license to marry" if they do their paperwork. So the priest is the one actually marrying you both in the legal and religious sense, but the paperwork will be exactly the same. Unlike the municipal clerk they are not required to marry anyone though, so they can have their own rules on who they'll marry and not. I think those two varieties cover pretty much all of Europe, it's a legal procedure in some way not just a marriage contract.

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  13. Re:World Pride 2012 by Abreu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You'd have to ask a gay person, but in this context, I interpret "Pride" as "not being ashamed".

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  14. Re:Marriage =/= legal union. by bondsbw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm a proponent for civil unions as a replacement for the legal institute of marriage. It is as simple as changing the name, but returns the term "marriage" to organized religion.

    After all, the term "gay civil union" is much easier for the public to digest than "gay marriage". It would be functionally the same, but would be written into law much faster.

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  15. Re:Marriage =/= legal union. by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Informative

    The concept of marriage is not strictly religious. Many cultures have had marriage but not necessarily tied to any religion. Buddhism for example considers marriage a matter for the state and not the religion. Those who are opposing gay marriage want to thrust their religious beliefs into the definition. Predominantly the religion they want to define marriage is a Protestant Christian one. Marriage existed in some form long before Christianity. As an legal institution, marriage has been used to convey inheritance and transfer of property. Women were the property being transferred and children born in wedlock were considered true heirs to any wealth whereas other children were not.

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  16. Re:Faggotry by Belial6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In our language, 'equal rights' means 'the same rights'. 'Equal but different' was deemed 'not equal rights'. Banning same sex marriage is like the old segregated water fountains. Saying, "Anyone can drink from a water fountain that is listed for use by their race is equal rights.", and "Blacks wanting to drink from white water fountains is asking for extra rights." is absurd. The same applies to marriage. Even if Joe is willing, Mike cannot marry Joe. Sharron can marry Joe. That is not equal.

  17. Re:adults living together by rasmusbr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a somewhat liberal-minded person, I can't think of a reason why you or I would have any reason whatsoever to demand that other people explain to us why they want to enter into a mutual agreement. I know that the government marries some people. I know that some people want to marry some other people who happen to be same sex. That's all I need to know to be for gay marriage.

    But since you bring it up. Gay people need marriage in order to get the same rights and benefits as straight people get when they marry. You could write a law that would allow gay people to have civil unions that would give them the same rights, but AFAIK there's no way to ensure that it stays that way over time as the laws change. Also, if one minority should have to settle for civil unions, why not another minority? For example why should Scientologists be allowed to marry? Can you prove that Scientologists are as good as non-Scientologists at parenting?

    When you say that marriage is for a man and a woman you're merely making a fact claim, one that is true in some places and not true in other places. Don't confuse what is with what you think ought to be!