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Virgin Galactic Announces New Satellite Launch Vehicle

An anonymous reader writes "Virgin Galactic has announced a new craft called LauncherOne, which it will use to put satellites into orbit. 'It appears to leverage some of the hardware already developed for SpaceShipTwo, Virgin's suborbital tourist vehicle. Like SpaceShipTwo, the new rocket rides up underneath Virgin's big carrier aircraft, WhiteKnightTwo, to about 50,000 feet. After release, the rocket drops for approximately four seconds before the first stage ignites. After the first stage burns out, a second stage takes the satellite to orbit.' Launching from a moving airplane eliminates many cost and scheduling concerns inherent to ground-based launches, and it's much easier to reach a broad range of trajectories for putting objects into orbit. According to the press release, LauncherOne will get objects up to 225kg into orbit for less than $10 million."

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  1. Dead ringer for Pegasus by benjfowler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Orbital Sciences build something very similar, called Pegasus. It's air launched, is quite reliable, can throw 440kg into LEO, has a very good launch record -- and costs roughly as much ($11m a pop, if memory serves correctly.)

    Branson is nuts if he thinks he can prevail against Orbital in this segment of the launch market.

    1. Re:Dead ringer for Pegasus by medcalf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I suspect Branson's focused on building an infrastructure with common parts. Having suborbital crew (for tourism or research), LEO cargo, and eventually orbital crew with a lot of common components would be a very good foundation for a profitable, ongoing company. He doesn't have to beat every competitor in every sub-market in order to do quite well.

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    2. Re:Dead ringer for Pegasus by benjfowler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But to pay for it all, he's got to win cargo launch business first.

      He's a brave man all right.

    3. Re:Dead ringer for Pegasus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Branson is nuts if he thinks he can prevail against Orbital in this segment of the launch market.

      Did you read TFA? It specifically talks about Orbital's "struggling" Pegasus XL. Specifically, that it's much more expensive on a per-pound basis.

      The article claims that Branson already has customers lined up. Too soon to say what will happen, of course, but I certainly wouldn't call the man "nuts."

    4. Re:Dead ringer for Pegasus by benjfowler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I certainly did. People with expensive payloads are not that sensitive to price. They ARE however, quite sensitive to getting their stuff to orbit in one piece. Something that Branson has so far failed to demonstrate.

    5. Re:Dead ringer for Pegasus by Rei · · Score: 3, Informative

      Scaled Composites (Branson) built some of the structural components for the Pegasus. It's not an entirely new field for them.

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    6. Re:Dead ringer for Pegasus by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Informative

      A couple of things: Air launches are dangerous - you've got a whole bunch of explosives strapped to the body of a very large aircraft which is carrying humans (pilots, support personnel). This may not sound like a big deal, but it is. The FAA makes certification of a new aircraft a monumental task. Orbital found out that just modifying their jet to carry Pegasus required a very lengthy (and expensive) re-certification process. The initial payload is limited to the capacity of the aircraft minus the booster. That's actually a pretty big deal.

      Disclaimer: I worked with the NASA group that designed the original PegSat (first Pegasus payload) and I worked for Orbital, but not their flight group - most of what I know is from the trade rags of the time.

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  2. I used to think Branson was just a glory hound... by Picass0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... and to some extent he is as the CEO and the figurehead for Virgin. But he does ambitious stuff nobody else is doing.

    I hope he makes mad profits in the space business and other companies see the potential.

  3. Why is this novel? by jeffmeden · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am not an expert but some quick calculations reveal that if they can launch 225kg payload for $10M that puts it at pretty close to the same cost other vehicles have been providing for years, like an Athena 2 or Taurus launch vehicle (which can also support much heavier payloads). Is this unique in that it is specifically for smaller payloads? Or, is the ability to do launches "wherever, whenever"? This has interesting implications but doesnt seem like it would shake up the market too much given that most satellites are planned out pretty far in advance of going to orbit.

  4. $10M for 225 kg? Are they JOKING? by Cyberax · · Score: 3, Informative

    $10M for 225 kg is more than $40000 per kg. That's even more than Shuttle's effective price-to-orbit for its payload. Once they get their price at least 10 times down then they can start thinking about competing with real rockets.

    1. Re:$10M for 225 kg? Are they JOKING? by Rei · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Really low-mass spacecraft launches are more expensive per kilogram; that's just the way it works. But it does go to show that all of the people on Slashdot several years ago talking about how Branson is just a hop, skip, and a jump from cheap orbital space travel because he made a suborbital joyride, and how their prices were going to blow everyone's away because the joyride cost hundreds of thousands per person instead of millions ... well, I hope this is a dose of reality as to how much more expensive and difficult orbital travel is than suborbital.

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  5. Calculate this by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Say you got a 200kg sattelite you want in orbit. How do you get it to launch on a normal rocket? Not alone for sure, it may be the same kilo price but those rockets are not going to go up for just you. Which means you got to fit yourself around the schedules and requirements of others. Want an odd orbit? Sorry, our rocket ain't going there.

    Sending cargo by ocean vessel is insanely cheap. Pity if you got a parcel to be delivered to Switzerland. The right vehicle, at the right cost.

    Lets just assume for a second that a self-made billionaire knows more about making money then all of slashdot put together.

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  6. Re:Concorde replacement? by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Concorde will never be replaced. It was horrendously expensive and in the same league of complexity as the SR-71. It was given to private industry for a song and a dance after a horrifically expensive government-funded development and build process. The Concorde was always horrifically expensive to fly on, more than first-class tickets on conventional airliners.

    The super-rich will have supersonic private jets soon enough, but there will certainly never be another supersonic airliner. Us proles will never fly supersonic, although Boeing is working on a near-sonic design that could actually make sense.

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  7. I doubt he cares by Kupfernigk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I met Richard Branson he was living on a houseboat on the Thames. Unlike many of the people who have made a lot of money, he didn't start off rich. He seems to have been successful because he is good at delegation, focusses on the bottom line, and looks after his managers. If he wants to sell space tourism, some very clever people will have worked out how it will get to the bottom line.

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  8. Worth every penny! by Grayhand · · Score: 4, Funny
    "LauncherOne will get objects up to 225kg into orbit for less than $10 million."

    That's just enough to orbit my mother in law.

    1. Re:Worth every penny! by camperdave · · Score: 4, Funny

      "LauncherOne will get objects up to 225kg into orbit for less than $10 million."

      That's just enough to orbit my mother in law.

      I presume you mean to send your mother in law into orbit, and not to send a 225kg object looping around her.

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  9. Carry an X-37? by xanthos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Dug around in Wikipedia a little and found that White Knight 2 has a carrying capacity of 35,000 lbs (~16k kilos). The X-37B is listed at 11,000 (5k) fully loaded, the crewcab version X-37C should be under 25,000 and even the old pre-composite X-15 was 34,000(15.4k). Now the X-15 was far shy of orbital velocity, but rocket design has advanced some in the 40+ years since the end of the program and building a standby vehicle for quick launch to orbit might be getting feasible.

    I, like many, have mourned the decline of manned space exploration. However, I see the work of Virgin Galactec and SpaceX as reasons to hope that not all is dead.

    Maybe the parts are coming together.

    -Xanthos

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