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Cell Phones: Tracking Devices That Happen To Make Calls

An anonymous reader writes "An article in the NY Times argues that the devices we call 'cell phones' should instead be called 'trackers.' It would help remind the average user that whole industries have sprung up around the mining and selling of their personal data — not to mention the huge amount of data requested by governments. Law professor Eben Moglen goes a step further, saying our cell phones are effectively robots that use us for mobility. 'They see everything, they're aware of our position, our relationship to other human beings and other robots, they mediate an information stream around us.' It's interesting to see such a mainstream publication focus on privacy like this; the authors say that since an objects name influences how people think about the object, renaming 'cell phones' could be an simple way to raise privacy awareness."

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  1. Nope by FranTaylor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Honestly you really think they aren't putting tracking devices in disposable phones? Wake up and smell the espionage

    1. Re:Nope by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nope. The very fact that you've made the call will give a rough geolocation, typically within 20m or so in a city. Other calls can be similarly located, also texts and any other time the phone pings the base stations. Your daily route can be tracked and analysed from day to day. That's just with a basic phone. Connect to the internet and install a Facebook app, well, say goodbye to your privacy in theory.

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    2. Re:Nope by symbolset · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't have to make a call to be triangulated. That bars signal level indicator, what is it doing? It's pinging every tower in range.

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    3. Re:Nope by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You've clearly never been stalked by an ex.

      The big point here isn't what can be done, but what is done. All of this technology exists, and can be very useful in, for example, locating missing people. It could also be used to track people at protests to identify ringleaders. The technology is already here, we can't close the box, the important thing is whether suitable laws are in place to prevent misuse.

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  2. Nope! by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The cellular network has to know where you are to route calls to you. Back when they first came out, someone published an article about using cellular information to locate a person with his cell phone to within 36 feet. There is a wealth of information that can be found out about you using your cell phone even if it's a 10 year old completely dumb phone (My parents are still using one of my hand-me-downs from the '90s!)

    Morale of this story is when you go off to murder that guy, leave your cell phone at home (Or stick it in the wife's glove box!) Bin Laden's courier would take the battery out of his until he was in the next town over.

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  3. Re:Only smart phones? by cpu6502 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Supposedly for 911 locating, but I suspect a secondary reason is for 9/11-related locating.

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  4. Re:Just say No by BitterOak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is a simple solution. Don't have a cell phone.

    That's not as easy as it used to be. When's the last time you saw a phone booth or a pay phone? There are a couple left in the city where I live, but not many. So, what happens when you have an emergency or your car breaks down and you need to call AAA? With the demise of pay phones, cell phones are no longer a luxury, they are a necessity.

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  5. turn off the phone when not in use by alen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i know someone who used to do that when he had his first cell phone years ago. no law says it has to stay on all the time

    1. Re:turn off the phone when not in use by Hartree · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They can call you just fine.

      They'll get forwarded to voice mail.

      I consider this a feature, not a problem.