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12 Dead, 50 Injured at The Dark Knight Rises Showing In Colorado

beaverdownunder sends the sad news that a gunman opened fire on an audience watching the new Batman movie early this morning, killing 12 and wounding 50 others. The shooting took place in Aurora, Colorado, and the suspect was arrested by police. "Witnesses told KUSA that the gunman kicked in an emergency exit door and threw a smoke bomb into the darkened theater before opening fire. One movie-goer, who was not identified, told KUSA the gunman was wearing a gas mask. Some people in the audience thought the thick smoke and gunfire was a special effect accompanying the movie, police and witnesses said."

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  1. Re:how 'bout some gun control... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    When you start with untrained use of lethal force you get George Zimmerman shooting at Trayvon Martin.

    Which by all appearances was a justified shooting. Or haven't you been keeping up?
    http://www.libertysentry.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ht_george_zimmerman_injuries_ll_120517_wg.jpg

    It has seemed over the last several months that the only thing he was lying about were his finances. There were injuries and police speculated on whether his nose was broken.

    But no, keep feeding those racial-tensions narratives.

  2. Re:how 'bout some gun control... by jittles · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Just like and armed churchgoer stopped this attack

    It wasn't an "armed churchgoer" as you misleadingly state. It was an off-duty police officer, trained in the use of lethal force.

    When you start with untrained use of lethal force you get George Zimmerman shooting at Trayvon Martin.

    That's actually entirely untrue. George Zimmerman was in violation of Florida's law when he confronted Trayvon Martin. Florida's law allows you to use deadly force to prevent, or stop, a forceable felony. He confronted Treyvon, and started the altercation. He claims that he retreated, and that Trayvon followed him to try and make the stand your ground law applicable.

    I don't remember the exact stats off the top of my head, but I do know that less than 10% of all gun crimes committed in Florida are committed by concealed weapons holders. I want to say the number is somewhere around 4%. Either way, a study in Texas found that concealed permit holders were more likely to have a DUI, than to commit any other crime. Here's a quote from Wikipedia:

    a 3-year study of Texas crime statistics immediately following passage of CHL legislation found that the most common crime committed by CHL holders that would be grounds for revocation was actually DUI, followed by unlawful carry and then aggravated assault. The same study concluded that Texas CHL holders were always less likely to commit any particular type of crime than the general population, and overall were 13 times less likely to commit any crime.

    So there you have it. If the rest of concealed weapon holders are like those in Texas, they are more prone to abiding by the law than other citizens.