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Valve & Intel Collaborating On Open-Source Drivers
An anonymous reader writes "It looks like Valve's Linux team that's still growing has found much interest in open-source graphics drivers. Intel Linux graphics driver developers and Valve's Linux team were meeting for the past week to look at each other's code, work out performance goals, and collaborate on new features. Ian Romanick of Intel blogs, 'The funny thing is Valve guys say the same thing about drivers. There were a couple times where we felt like they were trying to convince us that open source drivers are a good idea. We had to remind them that they were preaching to the choir. :) Their problem with closed drivers (on all platforms) is that it's such a blackbox that they have to play guess-and-check games. There's no way for them to know how changing a particular setting will affect the performance. If performance gets worse, they have no way to know why. If they can see where time is going in the driver, they can make much more educated guesses.' Perhaps the companies are paying attention to Linus Torvalds' memo to NVIDIA?"
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If Intel gives a shit about open source graphics drivers, where are the open drivers for their Atom IGP?
Licensed from PowerVR so not their IP, but next year it looks like they'll replace it with their in-house Ivy Bridge graphics in the "Valley View" Atoms. But if you got an Atom today and want good open source support, you're shit out of luck.
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Intel been too busy singing in harmony to open-source their drivers all these years.
There's more ways in which a driver can be buggy than poor framerate - such as graphical corruption, buggy shader compilers that crash, excessive CPU usage, ...
I've had a gamut of issues with openGL support on linux over the years. NVIDIA was the easiest to get working and by far the best support (in my experience anyway) but was by no means bug-free. Intel drivers and chipsets remain schizophrenic at best and let's not mention S3 or other laptop chipsets.
Hopefully these guys can add some weight into the push for better video support from both Intel and NVIDIA.
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I don't know exactly what they were thinking; but Intel's licensing of PowerVR GPUs somehow seemed to exclude video drivers that don't suck in any form, much less fully open. One would have thought that chipzilla could have gotten better terms, especially if they were planning a part for the embedded market...
The 'GMA500' and 'GMA600'(SGX 535, at different clock speeds) and 'GMA3600' and 'GMA3650'(SGX545, also differing in clock speed) all have tottering heaps of crap for drivers. Even if you don't care about license, they aren't exactly catching Nvidia in the 'actually works while tainting your kernel' department.
The rest of the GMAs are pretty unexciting; but are in-house designs and don't seem to have the same epic driver woes.
You don't need to download them from anywhere. They are in the mainline kernel.
If Intel gives a shit about open source graphics drivers, where are the open drivers for their Atom IGP?
It's not their IGP, they just paid someone else to use it. That platform sucks anyway, so why do you care?
Graphics, Intel, Drivers (and better, driver quality - If I wanted to talk about shit drivers and behaviour, and utter suckage, Intel are *right'* there. Counter to this, their later stuff has been a bit better, but the HD3000/HD4000 are still poor in serious GFX work.
In Valve are serious about gaming on a linux base, it can't be at the ground zero of current Intel GFX. Well, it can - but I won't be the slightest bit interested.
3DLABS not Intel developed the Permedia graphics cards.
I am not the AC above, but on our behalf I would like to apologize for our overreaction.
Fucking idiot.
So why was it modded down?
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If you want to improve intel, make a graphics processor that dosent get it ass beat down by a 40$ 6 year old geforce
Don't forget the PowerVR GPUs they used in several chipsets which last I checked are black box as well.
Lets face it folks, if you care about FOSS drivers you really only have one choice when it comes to GPUs, and that is AMD. they are opening up all their code as fast as their lawyers can sign off, they have gone coreboot over UEFI, it seems since taking over ATI that AMD has gone above and beyond trying to be FOSS friendly, even hiring devs to help the FOSS devs get up to speed quicker on the drivers.
So if the FOSS community wants FOSS drivers they need to put their money where their mouths are and buy AMD across the board. only by showing that supporting FOSS increases sales will you get other corps to sign off on opening up their drivers. The fact that damned near every forum talking about FOSS and GPUs ends up with a bazillion "LOL buy Nvidia" tells me that frankly you might as well accept binary blobs and a hardware API, because obviously the community doesn't care about FOSS over convenience.
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Go buy a HD7xxx based Southern Islands card and lets see if you still tell the same story. The last few generations have made it look like AMD was doing well by the open source community. But that was because what they opened up for the early cards mostly worked for later generations. But with Southern Islands it looks like we are SOL. Don't count on any documentation coming from AMD for their hardware going forward.
Actually if you had simply gone to Phoronix or any other Linux news site they would have told you that they are currently up to the HD5xxx and the work has slowed since they are now also working to support the new APUs since they are putting out a lot of those in laptops, which are naturally more in demand right now than discretes.
Rome wasn't built in a day friend, and frankly if you are wanting to run hardware THAT new WTF are you doing in Linux anyway? Its not like any of the games currently on Linux is gonna benefit from a SI chip, at least not until Valve get Steam out for Linux. Instead I would go over to Geeks and pick up either the HD5450 or if you want more power the HD3870 X2. Both cards are well supported now and from what I've read the FOSS drivers up to the 6xxx series have been running nicely.
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depends on how you configure those access points.. I know what the problem is exactly but it takes someone with a brain to know that...unfortunately for you, someone dropped a ball on your head.
your worried that valve releases patch to fix those exploits.. lol your funny.
nvidia and amd already got open source drivers. It's just not supported well enough. Understandable as to why a company would release the whole source code to the community.