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The Decline of Google's (and Everybody's) Ad Business

Hugh Pickens writes "Rebecca Greenfield writes that during their recent earnings call, Google reported a 16 percent decline in Cost-per-Click (CPC), meaning the value of each advertisement clicked has gone down. This follows a 12 percent drop last quarter and 8 percent the quarter before that showing an unfortunate reality of online advertising — unlike the print world, internet ads lose value over time. The daily and stubborn reality for everybody building businesses on the strength of Web advertising is that the value of digital ads decreases every quarter, a consequence of their simultaneous ineffectiveness and efficiency, writes Michael Wolff. 'The nature of people's behavior on the Web and of how they interact with advertising, as well as the character of those ads themselves and their inability to command attention, has meant a marked decline in advertising's impact.' This isn't just Google's problem. Overall, Internet advertising has decreased in value over the years as online advertising continues its race to the bottom. 'I don't know anyone in the ad-supported Web business who isn't engaged in a relentless, demoralizing, no-exit operation to realign costs with falling per-user revenues,' adds Wolff, 'or who isn't manically inflating traffic to compensate for ever-lower per-user value.' For Google's overall business, this loss doesn't mean as much, since it has since expanded its business beyond AdWords — including its recent acquisition of Motorola. For companies that didn't just buy big hardware companies however, it's a scarier proposition. Like Facebook, for example."

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  1. BEHOLD! by Moheeheeko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Adblock: Savior of the Internet.

    1. Re:BEHOLD! by Sarten-X · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Adblock: Tragedy of the Commons.

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    2. Re:BEHOLD! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Adblock: Tragedy of the Commons.

      It's amusing to see the commercialized internet compared to "the commons".

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    3. Re:BEHOLD! by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There were plenty of free sites on the Internet in the 90s when few people ran ads. Many of the were better than modern sites because they didn't have the desperate need to bring in more users to make more money from those ads.

      And that was when a hosting account cost far more for far less than you get for the same price today. Of course every page didn't include a megabyte of Javascript crap to 'Web 2.0'-ise it.

    4. Re:BEHOLD! by daem0n1x · · Score: 4, Funny

      Adblock is great until all of the sites you enjoy for free all go under because their ad revenue couldn't sustain the site. I don't use Adblock.....I just don't visit sites who are too aggressive with ads (i.e. pop-ups) or consistently have ads that I disagree with.

      I fucking hate advertisement, and I don't have money to buy what the advertisements advertise, anyway, so even if I loved it, it wouldn't make any difference. I find advertisement profoundly annoying. So I use Adblock.

      As a devote believer in the free market, I'm only concerned about my own selfish interest of not seeing any ads when I surf the Web. And if everybody is as selfish as me, everything will be fine. Oh, wait...

      So, you're saying a free market is not the ultimate and final solution for something? Oh, why, but why do you hate freedom? Why do you hate America?

    5. Re:BEHOLD! by Sarten-X · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And why is that amusing? A content-filled and freely-accessible Internet is a resource that the whole community benefits from, and yet Adblock drives up the real cost of having that content and accessibility. Sure, there would be some content without ads, but it'd be limited to corporate-sponsored subconscious marketing endeavors, personal philanthropy, and whatever society can produce in its spare time after paying the bills.

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  2. Good by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The internet had plenty of good content before it was ad supported, and it will have plenty of good content afterwards. Come to think of it, the content was actually better before it was add supported.

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  3. I continue to wonder... by Covalent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...who clicks on ads? The only time I click them is by mistake and then in frustration I close the new window, usually before it loads. My value per click is $0.

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  4. Myspace tried that by Animats · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If each ad display has less value, maintaining revenue means being more agressive with advertisements.

    Myspace tried that. That didn't end well. It didn't work out well for Yahoo, either.

    Facebook is trying it now. That may not end well. One clear implication - Facebook stock is hugely overpriced. Based on current revenue, Facebook is worth about $7 per share. The stock price assumes a huge growth in revenue. Probably not going to happen. Even a slow decline in Facebook's revenue means the glory days are over.

    Ads on search results are worth far more than ads on other media. Ads on search results are presented when someone is actively looking for something in the relevant category. Ads on content are irrelevant interruptions.

    1. Re:Myspace tried that by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I stopped reading there. What magic do "real pro financial analysts" have which slashdotters do not have?

      They can convincingly spout bullshit.

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  5. Alternative hypothesis by JDG1980 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This follows a 12 percent drop last quarter and 8 percent the quarter before that showing an unfortunate reality of online advertising â" unlike the print world, internet ads lose value over time.

    Or, alternatively, print ads were never really all that successful, but unlike on the Web, there was never any way to measure their efficacy with much precision.

  6. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work in Google ads and the cost-per-click fretting miss the mark for lots of reasons.

    - First we are talking year-over-year drop so the numbers are nowhere close to what the summary implies. In fact, they went up last quarter if I recall correctly.
    - Second we believe lowering cost-per-click is a *good* thing as long as other metrics (such as revenue and clickthrough rate) stay neutral. It means advertisers are getting their clicks for less cost, which makes them happier, and more likely to dump more money in. This is exactly what has happened recently. It is not because advertisers are lowering bids - it is because of (intentional) changes on our end mostly.
    - There is only one legitimate actual concern here: advertisers pay less for mobile ads, and mobile is becoming more and more important. But that has nothing to do with less interest in ads in general.

  7. Re:nobody ain't got no money anymore by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You're saying they ran out of customers? Ummm I don't think so. Here, let me suggest a market research project for you. Go up to anyone you know and ask them when the last time was that they clicked on a web ad. I've never had anyone say they had ever. I think 90-100% of ad clicks are fake and internet advertising is a scam. Stupid companies that don't track ROIs don't realize that it's a complete waste of money or they assign some made up number like "value gained from visitors that at least came to the website via the ad" without realizing they're clickbots. I think the entirety of the decline is companies realizing they're wasting money and it's not a 1.0+ ROI.

  8. The only successfully ad company is Amazon by vlm · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The only successful targeted internet ad company that I know of is Amazon.

    I've bought hundreds (thousands?) of dollars of stuff based on recommended items. I forget exactly how they phrase it but its something like "people who bought your Charlie Stross book "Rule 34" also bought the following books" and they list Accelerando and The Apocalypse Codex and so on. Ditto about a zillion other authors and non-book products.

    I've never intentionally clicked on or purchased anything from any other targeted ad, and have been using ad blockers since weeks after that tech was invented.

    The scary part is thinking about what really finely focused /. ads would push on us /.ers. Hmm. Instant Hot Grits, Debian install disks, buy this package at a discount: one cup now with pix of two girls, lots of rick astley / rickroll music...

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  9. Re:Thank god by justforgetme · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only if you are a logical person. The teams of accountants running big Internet outfits that are dependent on advert revenue just see this as a que to "Hey! There's a spot we haven't put an ad on!".

    Honestly though, from personal experience, redefining your ad strategy to something much more minimal, elegant and integrated seems to be working atm. The Plain advertisement times on the net are over. Now it seems to be all about social recommendation. (Which is nicer IMHO)

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  10. Re:nobody ain't got no money anymore by mechtech256 · · Score: 5, Informative

    As someone who was part of an online business that got 80% of first time sales from google ads, I disagree. You're also sorely mistaken if you think that successful web businesses don't track ROI and which customers are coming from where. It's incredibly easy to do even for a layman, and it's very hard to make money with an ebusiness without doing it. There are so many companies in every product category that staying alive comes down to SEO and ad management.

  11. Re:Thank god by neonKow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You give yourself and human brains too much credit. It doesn't take that much to get into our subconscious, and into our decision making process.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyQjr1YL0zg

    Obviously, this Derren Brown video is a little dramatic and not very scientific, but the fact remains that we humans draw a lot of our "spontaneous" creativity and "rational" decisions from our surroundings. You may think that you're immune to the effect, but regardless of the amount of truth in an ad for ACME brand frozen lasagna, the fact that Morgan Freeman is telling you that it is delicious and nutritious will have an effect on your decision 3 months from now when you're deciding which brand you trust more.

    And imagine how susceptible kids are.

  12. FEER TEH INNERTUUBES by Crypto+Gnome · · Score: 4, Informative
    Anyone with more than half a brain can do a quick search for "declining advertising revenues" and IMMEDIATELY discover this decline in revenues is NOT RESTRICTED TO THE INTERNET.

    Also this declining in advertising revenus has been going on for years.

    http://stateofthemedia.org/2012/newspapers-building-digital-revenues-proves-painfully-slow/newspapers-by-the-numbers/

    Rapidly declining advertising revenues continue to be the industry’s core problem. The losses in 2011 were slightly worse than those of 2010 – 7.3% compared to 6.3%. Ad revenues are now less than half what they were in 2006.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/business/media/quarterly-profit-falls-12-2-at-times-co.html

    The New York Times Company reported on Thursday that its fourth-quarter profit declined 12.2 percent as rising subscription and digital advertising revenue at its largest newspapers could not offset the continued drop-off in print advertising.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120703-702076.html

    Mediaset SpA (MS.MI), Italy's largest private broadcaster, expects advertising revenue in its home market to decline in the first half of 2012

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/may/08/itv-advertising-sales-drop

    ITV expected to report first decline in ad revenues for 18 months

    http://www.exa.com.au/articles/autumn_09/

    Meanwhile, free to air broadcasters have experienced multi-million dollar dives in profits and are writing their assets down as worthless. Channel 7, 9 and 10 are crippled by debt and funding problems in the face of declining advertising revenues and changing trends. Likewise, print media is experiencing huge decreases in both readership and advertising revenue.

    http://www.filmneweurope.com/news/romania/declining-ad-revenues-at-romanian-tv

    The deficit of the Romanian's public TV, SRTV (www.tvr.ro), decreased by 0.71% in 2011, to €36.7 million Euro, while revenue from advertising was 7.4 million euro in 2011, down 24.06% from 2010.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-15/sbs-admits-financial-trouble/3830502

    SBS battling falling ad revenue

    http://multimedia.journalism.berkeley.edu/tutorials/digital-transform/print-editions-decline/

    A steady decline in print circulation and a precipitous drop in advertising revenue in 2008 and 2009, especially classified advertising, have taken their toll on newspapers and newspaper chains.

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