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Two More HIV Patients Now Virus-Free Thanks To Bone Marrow Transplant
Diggester tips this quote from NBC News:
"Two men unlucky enough to get both HIV and cancer have been seemingly cleared of the virus, raising hope that science may yet find a way to cure the infection that causes AIDS, 30 years into the epidemic. The researchers are cautious in declaring the two men cured, but more than two years after receiving bone marrow transplants, HIV can't be detected anywhere in their bodies. These two new cases are reminiscent of the so-called 'Berlin patient,' the only person known to have been cured of infection from the human immunodeficiency virus."
In other news, a representative from Chick-Fil-A has stated that the company does not support bone marrow transplants.
I do you a big favor, and later you do me some favors, deal?
Yea, 'cause the only way to get HIV is homosexual relations...
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Don't they have to take stuff to immunosuppress for the rest of their life with the bone marrow transplant? Trade one immunodeficiency for another?
There is not test or proof that they are 100% virus free. The test can only show that there is a high STATISTICAL probability that they MIGHT be virus free.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
Their HIV Positive!
There is not test or proof that they are 100% virus free. The test can only show that there is a high STATISTICAL probability that they MIGHT be virus free.
It reminds of the story about three professors walking down a country lane in Scotland. They see a black cow. The astrophysicist immediately declares, "All the cows in Scotland are black!". The professor of statistics interjects, "You are generalizing too much. All you can say is, the statistical probability of finding a black cow in Scotland is above zero. That is all."
The professor of mathematics looks at them and says, "That is also a generalization, my friend. All we can say now is, this side of that cow is black".
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Just how prevalent is this genetic mutation? IANAD, but assuming there must also be a very close match as with other transplants, will this help a few or many?
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Just goes to show, when you have a virus you can't get rid of, reboot and re-install.
Where's the guy who's going to claim that there's no real scientific evidence to prove that HIV is related to AIDS?
The first humans cured of the HIV virus, and they get the reward of taking immunosuppressive medications, possibly for the rest of their life. This is the medical equivalent of napalming the village in order to save it...
Light a fire for a man and he'll be warm for a day. Light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Usually, as far as I know, a bone marrow transplant occurs after the patients immune system is erased by radiation. Since HIV does its thing by controlling the victims immune system it stand to follow that the HIV virus would take a severe beating if not an out and out death sentence for HIV virus.
The catch is that this is a very high risk procedure and expensive and painful to the donor as well. If we could clone some bone marrow cells from a patient know to be HIV immune or resistant and then install them in the AIDS patients it might be the answer although expense and risk will remain high. For patients in poorer nations this would not be available at all.
Why did I just have a vision of Chick-Fil-A being a future lobbying-based megacorporation that now runs a chain of churches?
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I have a biochem phd friend who told me at least a yr ago that they'd isolated the gene that provides the hiv resistance & that it should be possible in theory to extract marrow from an infected patient, splice in the magic gene, grow & transplant new marrow & get same result as this. the problem would be that it would be cost-prohibitive to scale (since it would be individualized). at lunch today one of my DBAs told me he'd heard about this on npr this morning (2 patients declared "cured") so I assumed this was what they'd done (& told them what friend had told me last yr). interestingly it then occurred to me that you should be able to do the same thing w/a transplant from a resistant donor which ended up being what actually happened...
Is that random collection of words suppose to be some sort of derogatory remark?
If you are going to insult someone at least do it in a way that doesn't make you appear to be a blithering idiot.
Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
Didn't they already do this with Magic Johnson for exactly $200,000??
That is not a very Christian way to look at things.
And as for those unlucky enough to get it through a blood transfusion, they can rot too, right?
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
I believe in voting with your dollars, and do not believe that a business should getting involved in politics. I am in favor of gay marriage, so I don't want to support Chick-Fil-A.
But, all of this talk about Chick-Fil-A these past few days has made me REALLY want a chicken sandwich. I don't know how much longer I can hold out.
I guess, at least when it comes to chicken sandwiches, any publicity is good publicity.
You can't even call the Corporate Office and get a person on Sunday. But anyway i think August 1 will be "interesting" for CFA.
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It says lmao, not homo. Unless there's some other homophobic reference in the vaguely hateful nonsense, I think you're just being over-sensitive.
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I can already get fried chicken at Church's. Pretty tasty stuff, although I do feel like I stick out like a sore thumb because of the color of my skin. I wonder if homosexuals that enjoy Chik-Fil-A's food feel something similar while there, surrounded by all the squares.
I don't eat anything fried so I can't vouch for it, but give this recipe a spin.
More Twoson than Cupertino
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The print article was interesting. I didn't know there were a small number of people with HIV that can successfully contain the virus and never get AIDS, without any kind of treatment or drugs at all.
No it's not heresy it is just completely wrong.
Have you ever taken a biology class?
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Lots of people don't realize anyone can be a bone marrow donor.. Be the Match runs a large registry. I clicked a few buttons on the website, and 2 weeks later, had a cheekswab in the mail. Probably simpler than registering to be a donor on my Drivers License, because I didn't have to wait at the DMV :)
This is somewhat off-topic, since it doesn't have to do with the treatment, or treatment for aids, but Bone Marrow transplants are needed for lots of cancers too.
What are we going to do tonight Brain?
Of course not, those classes were created by the "scientists" who invented HIV in the first place. Don't you know that?
Interestingly I remember reading an article way back showign that there was a test performed in Africa which showed that circumcision dramatically reduced the rates of HIV infection.
I guess what you're saying is that unless the corporation agrees with YOUR point of view, they shouldn't be involved with politics.
I didn't hear anyone screaming about the following corporations donating money to pro same sex marriage causes and legislation:
Amazon
Microsoft
Starbucks
Nike
General Mills
Nabisco
Kraft
and many, many more...
What kind of bone marrow they are looking at, does this mean I kind sell my bone marrow to the highest bidder? Or does it need a specific kind of bone marrow or patient?
I don't think Chick-Fil-A is a lobbying corporation. All they did was say they don't support it, not that they won't serve gays, or push for "no gay marriage" (as far as I can tell). I know it's a matter of principle and morals and what have you, but I think the fact they aren't lobbying for anything anti-gay (again, as far as I know) I think it kind of equals out on the "support, don't support" spectrum.
There have been many studies showing this, however many of them leave out the part that this is largely due to overall poor hygiene in rural africa. If you live in the west like most slashdotters, or any other first world country, you have access to much much better tools to keep up personal hygiene (showers and flushing toilets come to mind). In that position circumcision has no real medical benefits and doesn't appear to reduce the chance of getting hit by HIV.
Yall are postin in a troll thread.
I am gay.
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These two new cases are reminiscent of the so-called 'Berlin patient,' the only person known to have been cured of infection from the human immunodeficiency virus.
There is some evidence to suggest "Berlin Patient" Timothy Ray Brown may not actually be cured of HIV. They just don't know for sure.
I believe in voting with your dollars, and do not believe that a business should getting involved in politics.
What about when businesses lobbied against SOPA/PIPA/ACTA/etc.? Should they have not been involved? They dealt some heavy blows, more so than what those little online petitions everybody signed did.
IF I live a risky lifestyle I should have to live with the consequences. It's a free society and you shouldn't be prohibited from taking risks. But you should also be responsible for the results of treating your body without respect.
I truly hope you have a blood infusion at the hospital and get HIV infected blood.
Then your parents, family, and friends can be equally disgusted with your risky lifestyle that is clearly responsible for your misfortune.
Going outdoors, in full clear view where any car with a drunk behind the wheel can run up into your front yard and hit you, causing such a situation to happen. Ambulance, ER, infected blood, and it's all your fault for not treating your body with respect.
In other news, millions of smokers were unlucky enough to get lung cancer. Film at eleven.
I might be reading it wrong, but I took "I bet you're cheeks are absolute garbage" to be referring to anal sex. Put that in context with the trolling, and there's the homosexuality link.
For large sets, this will be our guide even unto death, for the LORD will work for each type of data it is applied to...
I suppose when you buttfuckers take over I'll have to be killed, because there's no way I'm ever going to accept it as normal or support the notion of homosexual marriage. No one I know on the right is talking about firing up the gas chambers for gays. Whatever you do in the privacy of your own bedroom is your business. I just want you to GET OUT OF MY FACE WITH IT, and stop telling me it's normal, because it isn't.The most heated and hateful rhetoric's coming from the left on this one.
Most BMT (or more specifically) PBSCs (peripheral blood stem cells transplants) generally use both Chemo (Poison) and radiation.
The fun part is the nurse who gives you the Chemo. She takes some SERIOUS precautions when handling that drug.
"Sincerely, Repressed Gay"
I suppose when you buttfuckers take over I'll have to be killed,
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The most heated and hateful rhetoric's coming from the left on this one.
Uh, yeah.
Chick-Fil-A donates lots of money to anti-gay groups that do lobby for no-gay marriage. That's definitely supporting a anti-gay activity in my book.
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Be the darkness that allows the light to shine.
Different situation when all of those acts had the potential to directly affect the way those businesses conducted their business.
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Be the darkness that allows the light to shine.
GET IT OUT OF MY FACE. Go fuck whoever you like. Just get it out of my face. I have as much right not to be offended as you do to offend.
I have as much right not to be offended
No, you have no right not to be offended. Where do you think you get that "right"? Who has ever had that "right"?
You sound like one of those hypersensitive delicate flowers who prance around, all swishy-swashy, getting all butthurt by anything that doesn't go exactly how you want it to.
You are the very definition of a hysterical, politically correct whiner.
You have no such right.
Hey, you forgot to click "Post Anonymously" on your second post, but you did on your first post. Now everyone knows that TheGoodNamesWereGone (1844118) is the one with a major hard-on for the Butt Boys.
LMAO so what?
I have a vote. Look, I'm fifty years old. I'll be gone in twenty years, and the rest of the world can stew in its own juice. Rejoice! You'll win by attrition! Oh, and good luck.
No one cares whether you accept it. The only thing you're asked to do is stand aside and refrain from attacking or mocking gay couples that pass you on a public street. Your one vote doesn't matter because there is no vote count to be taken, nor should there be. You may not be talking about gassing homosexuals, but there are people on the Right that are. Shall I pull up the video of the woman advocating for putting all homosexuals within an electrified fence so that they naturally die off? You obviously don't associate with those types -- but just maybe you do and you don't realize it because they know that their fantastic right to be free from offense is greatly countered by the realities of life. What's your measure for being "in your face" anyway? Is it seeing a gay couple making out; all but having sex right there in front of you? I'm straight, and I've seen plenty of heterosexual couples making out in public places. I think it's tacky, and I'd prefer not to see it. Amazingly, I find that I can simply look away. I don't have to make any other changes to my regimen, nor do I have to avoid public places I enjoy. Or do you think it's "in your face" when two gays kiss casually or hold hands, or when an advertisement features an otherwise "normal" looking happy family that could be your family?
Really, as a practical matter, the only "in your face" gaydom you're exposed to is casual indications that a person is gay (a button, a pin, a light public display of affection with a member of the same sex) or gay rights advocacy. The first you'll have to just deal with. The latter will go away once gays are treated with full equality. Notice how the blacks and the hispanics aren't demanding the right to vote and intermarry? If you're having to constantly shield yourself from rainbow-infused wild acts of hedonistic gaydom, I suggest you leave that particular adult theater and go somewhere else.
I'm cheerful too, and I'm smoking a fag.
Of course. According to Jehova's Witnesses, blood transfusions are the work of the devil.
Obviously this is far from a mass cure. Even if it is develops into a technique that can be widely applied, for low cost - there will be plenty who can't afford it (because pharmaceutical companies, when it comes down to it, care about shareholders not sick people) and there will be plenty who don't know they are infected, and continue to infect others. If any treatment requires your 'good' cells to overwhelm the cells with HIV DNA in them, its going to take a long time. This is not a shot-in-the-arm treatment.
There have been many studies showing this, however many of them leave out the part that this is largely due to overall poor hygiene in rural africa. If you live in the west like most slashdotters, or any other first world country, you have access to much much better tools to keep up personal hygiene (showers and flushing toilets come to mind). In that position circumcision has no real medical benefits and doesn't appear to reduce the chance of getting hit by HIV.
Jacob, is that you?
Once again, HIV is transmitted by bodily fluids, how do showers and flushing toilets make a difference?
Taking a shower after sex will not reduce your chances of contracting HIV! I thought we had explained this to you during your court case.
It's not very covered here but one of the side effects of HIV is cancer. When it's eating your nummy nummy T-cells sometimes it messes up and gives you cancer. That side-effect cancer is what they are treating here, and are killing two birds with one stone by using CCR5 Delta-32 bonemarrow.
+ Correlation does not imply causation.
Cutting of a pinky toe would probably result in the same correlation. People that goes through a medical treatment have a better access to medical treatments and condoms.
Now that we have Obamacare, the procedure will be available for free to anyone who needs it.
Regressive vs. progressive ideals. One harms while one helps. Hard to argue with it unless you're a bigot.
Of which we've been fed hundreds of similar stories about HIV/AIDS over the decades.
1> You'll forget all about it in a day or so... 2> It won't change anything about the current theory on HIV/AIDS... 3> You'll come away from this feeling like everything's going to be OK, while still believing everything about HIV/AIDS you've been told by "the authorities", who constantly lie about HIV/AIDS stats, your risk of infection with "HIV", and your chances of developing "AIDS"...
Back in the early 90's Oprah promised us that half the heterosexual population in the US would have AIDS. Where's the US AIDS "epidemic" ?
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