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Koch Bros Study Finds Global Warming Is Real And Man-Made

bledri writes "The results of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature are in and Richard Muller, the study's director (formerly an AGW skeptic) declares, 'Call me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I'm now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.' The study was funded by the Folger Fund, the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, the Fund for Innovative Climate and Energy Research (created by Bill Gates), the Bowes Foundation, the Koch Foundation, and the Getty Foundation."

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  1. Those of us who live along coastal cities... by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 0, Troll

    Those of us who live along coastal cities are f*cked. If more evidence turns up to support man-made global climate change, and the ocean levels rise, then climate deniers in congress and the senate should have to pay to relocate everyone living in coastal cities. Fair is fair but, it won't work out that way. -- Without coastal cities, import/export trade and many industries the nation relies on will be crippled. It could very possibly crush the economy and destroy civilization as we know it.

  2. N.America shifted South 400 miles in last 11yrs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Weather and climate related reports and articles are missing key informations.

    Please do your own calculation, cross-references and double check, triple check of numbers and info.

    Earth Magnetic Poles shifted 400 Miles in the last 11 years (some 800 miles in last 100 years): real cause for changing weather patterns, not Carbon Dioxide (CO2). North America shifting South. Northern Europe shifting North.

    Here are some info:

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Magnetic_Pole

    The North Magnetic Pole moves over time due to magnetic changes in the Earth's core.[1] In 2001, it was determined by the Geological Survey of Canada to lie near Ellesmere Island in northern Canada at 81.3ÂN 110.8ÂW. It was situated at 83.1ÂN 117.8ÂW in 2005. In 2009, while still situated within the Canadian Arctic territorial claim at 84.9ÂN 131.0ÂW,[2] it was moving toward Russia at between 34 and 37 mi (55-60 km) per year.[3] As of 2012, the pole is projected to have moved beyond the Canadian Arctic territorial claim to 85.9ÂN 147.0ÂW.

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    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/1215_051215_north_pole.html
    North Magnetic Pole Is Shifting Rapidly Toward Russia
    December 15, 2005

    New research shows the pole moving at rapid clipâ"25 miles (40 kilometers) a year.

    Over the past century the pole has moved 685 miles (1,100 kilometers) from Arctic Canada toward Siberia, says Joe Stoner, a paleomagnetist at Oregon State University.

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    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/29dec_magneticfield/
    Earth's Inconstant Magnetic Field

    The pole kept going during the 20th century, north at an average speed of 10 km per year, lately accelerating "to 40 km per year," says Newitt. At this rate it will exit North America and reach Siberia in a few decades.

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    http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap020818.html
    Astronomy Picture of the Day

    Indicated in the above picture is Ellef Ringnes Island, the location of Earth's North Magnetic Pole in 1999.

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    Now the reasoning part...

    Distance between 2001 and 2012 coordinates of the "Earth magnetic North pole":

    81.3ÂN 110.8ÂW (2001)
    85.9ÂN 147.0ÂW (2012)

    is about 401.9 Miles, or 646.9 Km. That's an average of 36.5 miles per year for the last 11 years. 36.5 miles per year is about 1 mile for every 10 days. Imagine your house moves 1 mile every 10 days, that's quite a distance.

    North America is shifted South, a rough estimate from a map, 400 miles is about distance between these cities:

    Quebec -- New York city.
    New York city -- Atlanta/Savanah.
    San Francisco -- San Diego/Tiejuana.

    Again, back in 2005, "Over the past century the pole has moved 685 miles (1,100 kilometers)". Which means for 2012, over the past century the Magnetic North Pole would have moved away from Canda and the USA some 800 miles. Which is about the distance of:

    Washingon DC -- Fort Lauderdale

    When people claim the weather has been the worst on record of the last 50 years, or 100 years, they don't even know that the comparison is invalid. The location they are now in North America is well over 800 miles South of where they were 100 years ago. Comparing such records with a city

  3. Skeptic? by cirby · · Score: 0, Troll

    Richard Muller is a lot of things (a fairly good scientist for one), and the press keeps insisting he's a "former skeptic," but nobody seems to be able to find anything he's ever said that put him in the "skeptic" camp...

  4. Re:But the real question is... by Teresita · · Score: -1, Troll

    Because once you do that, you can convert all the skeptics in the scientific population by defunding their grants and even putting them in camps if they persist. It's for a good cause. The ends (destruction of the capitalist system) justifies the means. Let the false emails and hockey sticks fly!

  5. "I USED TO BE PAID TO PRODUCE RESULTS..." by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: -1, Troll

    "...Skewed for the interests of one set of billionaires.

    "I have now been flipped, and am rewarded for serving the competing interest of an entirely opposed set of different billionaires.

    "Everything you read is true. Especially if it is funded by large foundations."

    FNORD

    --
    "Flyin' in just a sweet place,
    Never been known to fail..."
  6. Re:Everyone is fucked. by rubycodez · · Score: -1, Troll

    nonsense, crop yield depends on the cyclical phenomenon known as *drought*, not on whether the average temperature for a year was a fraction of a degree higher than the last year's. One of the pseudo-scientific ploys by alarmists is to attribute any current weather to AGW. In a flood year, "global warming will make more floods, look, it's happening!". In a year with a blizzard, "AGW will cause more blizzards, look it's happening!" etc. etc. Recently we saw NASA release spewing nonsense about "unprecedented melting in Greenland", totally ignoring that it is a 150 year cyclical event right on schedule.

  7. Re:Everyone is fucked. by rubycodez · · Score: 0, Troll

    The motives of AGW shills, like the hypocrite Al Gore, are quite transparent, as they set up markets and funds to profit from cap & trade and related scams. The center for climate research, for example, is clearly a fount of agenda driven pseudoscience.

  8. Re:nothing to be excited about ... by tmosley · · Score: -1, Troll

    If you are going to give up, then do so by shutting the fuck up. Your abuse does no good. You claim it does no harm, which is debatable. Since it is debatable, shut the fuck up. You're not helping anyone. You only reinforce the concept of "sides" with your abuse, rather than encouraging people to come out from behind the barricades and actually, I don't know, look for the truth.

    Also note that your last paragraph is the definition of unscientific thinking.

  9. I thought they warned you: Never go Full Retard by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Troll

    Imagine the climate is a glass of water, and the water level is temperature.

    I was going to briefly post somewhere under this story to mention that measured temperature changes were accidentally doubled

    But then I saw your post and realized that real science is totally lost upon the race of fear-inducing mouth breathers that are the core that remains of the AGW Warmists. I'll read no more Warming Cult stuff on Slashdot, you all are beyond hope.

    I mean, can you even dress yourself? "Climate is like a glass of water, we are adding more water"....

    HOLY CRAP SLASHDOT is 4CHAN.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley