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Legend of Zelda NES Nintendo Prototype On Sale For $150K

YokimaSun writes "Following on from Last months Mega auction of rare games that went for a staggering 1.2 Million dollars, comes another auction. This time its of the only Legend of Zelda Nes Prototype cartridge in the world, bundled with it is a sealed copy of the retail version of the game, those of you excited by this news will have to dig deep because the price is set at a mouthwatering US $150,000.00."

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  1. pretty far out prototype as per description.. by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    "Game Special Features Horseback riding is a new and key element in the game play. A great deal of combat takes place on horseback enabling Link to bump his adversaries off their war-horses. Shifting camera system that allows for views behind the back and from above. Camera can be locked during battles. All new characters."

    so.. does this proto have that or did they just copypaste that from somewhere?

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    1. Re:pretty far out prototype as per description.. by eyenot · · Score: 5, Informative

      That description is clearly from the Gamecube Zelda game "Twilight Princess".

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    2. Re:pretty far out prototype as per description.. by zifn4b · · Score: 2

      That description is really messed up. Ocarina of Time is the first Zelda game to feature horseback riding. Twilight Princess is the first game to feature horseback combat.

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  2. Hey look! An Ebay Auction. by NalosLayor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hate to be that guy, but is this marketing spam? I mean, it's not like it's some lost version of the game or some unreleased sequel. Its a late prototype of a widely released game that may or may not have the exact same ROM on it as the one that shipped. Rare? Yes. Interesting to anyone other than an high level (read:obsessive) collector? I doubt it.

    1. Re:Hey look! An Ebay Auction. by tuffy · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's probably this prototype whose ROM is floating around the interwebs, but remains quite valuable as a physical cartridge.

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    2. Re:Hey look! An Ebay Auction. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's probably NOT that prototype, since they stated in the auction that there are no apparent differences that they've seen between it and the final release version. I'd imagine that the missing prologue of the prototype you linked would have stood out. Also, his prototype is stamped NOA for Nintendo of America, and, I believe, has been localized into English, whereas the prototype you've linked is in Japanese. It sounds like his is a much later prototype and from a different branch of the company.

    3. Re:Hey look! An Ebay Auction. by Trepidity · · Score: 3, Informative

      recent articles about a SNES emulator (maybe simulator in this case) which on paper should be literally perfect

      Ah yeah, I remember that story; found this Slashdot post about it from last year.

      That's getting pretty close to perfect, but I think some of the tricky part is not just emulating the console hardware, but the interface with the analog world, which you can get even with a literally exact emulation.

      For example, one of the most common aesthetic flaws in emulators is audio aliasing. If you take the Atari 2600's sound chip, it outputs square waves directly to line-out, because it's a super-cheap chip that is literally a digital circuit (alternating high and low voltages) plugged into analog audio out. Its operation has been reverse engineered so it's emulated bit- and cycle-perfectly by most Atari emulators. But the sound in most of them is still wrong, because when you generate square waves digitally as PCM audio, as opposed to plugging a circuit directly into an analog line-out, you get pretty bad aliasing. Digitally generating unaliased (band-limited) square waves is actually a fairly complex problem, with a bunch of research papers about it. This guy has been trying to get code into some emulators to do it.

      That's just one example, but the observation is that you have to do more than a literal simulation of the original hardware to get it to be a good emulation, sometimes, in this case dealing with the fact that digital simulation of audio-generating chips is inherently different from running those chips to analog audio output.

  3. My favorite part of the listing: by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

    Price: US $150,000.00
    Approximately £95,456.28 ...

    Sell it yourself £12.00 Avg used

    Wow, what a deal!

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    1. Re:My favorite part of the listing: by LocalH · · Score: 2

      Who are you to pass judgement on how someone else spends their money?

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  4. Were you being sarcastic? by FilmedInNoir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Steak with blue cheese is mouthwatering. $150,000.000 for an old NES game is jaw-dropping, staggering, and possibly outrageous. Consult with your local thesaurus to learn more.

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  5. It's not a prototype. It's a test cart by Eightbitgnosis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Zelda Test cartridge comes in that sort of orangeish yellow color. I used to have one myself.

    Just do a google search for "NES Zelda test cart", and you'll find plenty of other examples. This particular test cart just happens to have a hand written label.

    It's a nice find, but worth no more than $150

    1. Re:It's not a prototype. It's a test cart by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not a test cart, it's a prototype. As they pointed out if you read through the questions and follow some of the links, the PCB for this cart is unlike any of the ones ever seen in a test cart. Externally it looks similar. Internally it's anything but. Hence why it's being billed as unique.

    2. Re:It's not a prototype. It's a test cart by Eightbitgnosis · · Score: 2

      Ahh sure, why should someone selling something for $150,000 be expected to provide evidence of the item's validity.....

      Why would they post the PCB? Well do you have a spare Zelda test cart to compare against? Even among those who have one; would they open it up? This isn't exactly an easy verification.

  6. Another Previously Unreleased Software Application by Astrogen · · Score: 2

    I have some early versions of a dice rolling game I made in the late 80's. Never been seen before.

    The game crashes in certain circumstances, but it isn't documented exactly why.

    The bidding starts at $1000.

  7. Re:Mentally challenged editor? by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fucking retarded editor. I want to murder you for this.

    Fine, except that he's hiding deep inside a dungeon in Death Mountain, and to get access to it, you'll need to collect the pieces of a sacred relic of power from different dungeons scattered across the land...

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  8. Re:Upload the ROM data by JDG1980 · · Score: 2

    Someone could of easily just taken a old cartridge rom from a released cart. and put it in its own case.

    The circuit board is definitely not the same as the released version. The production version of Legend of Zelda has a standard NES-SNROM PCB. The prototype in this auction uses a custom board labeled "NES-SRP-TEST-02" which appears to have four EPROMs installed, probably 256Kbit each. (The production version has the game code on a single 1Mbit mask ROM.)

  9. About the description by JDG1980 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Several posters pointed out that the description seems to be for a newer Zelda game, not the original Legend of Zelda. This isn't because the seller put in incorrect info, but because there's a problem with the stock eBay description. Whenever you sell a video game on eBay, the selling tool will beg you to select the game from eBay's internal database and hassle you if you don't. This database information contains stuff like name, release date, and a short description (the part which was botched here). It also sometimes contains stock photos, which can be (and usually are) deleted and overridden by whoever is posting the listing.

    eBay does the same thing with books and other media as well. You can see this by going to "Sell an item" and entering the media name in the box labeled "Enter a UPC, ISBN, VIN VIN help or keywords that describe your item." There are about 500 entries containing the phrase "Legend of Zelda", so it's not surprising that there might be some corrupted entries and/or duplicates in there.

  10. Re:Am I being picky...? by NoPinchies · · Score: 2

    The factory sealed copy is the one in shrink wrap. The prototype is shown in the video.

  11. Re:Easy to falsify? by JDG1980 · · Score: 2

    I am sure I'm overlooking something, but to me, it seems that all you need to do to "create" this prototype, is burn the ROM file (available around the web) onto the EPROMs, place them into a garden variety copy of Legend of Zelda, and that's it. One could even easily make a funky-colored case for the cart, with a 3D printer. A $50-100 expense for a 3 orders of magnitude higher profit.

    Anyone planning to do this would need to design and fabricate a fake PCB as well, since the PCB for prototypes is considerably different for those on production NES games. On most NES boards, you can't even swap in an EPROM without doing some hacking to the traces, since the mask ROM pinouts are not standard.

    If someone were both knowledgeable and dishonest enough to try something like this, they'd probably be better off counterfeiting a rare production NES game, like Stadium Events (which routinely goes for thousands of dollars). For that, they could get the PCB and cart casing from a common game, remove the old label, and forge a new one. The hardest part would be getting new mask ROMs with silkscreening matching the originals. My prediction is that if high-end NES collecting proves to be more than a passing fad, we'll see some very convincing counterfeits being manufactured in China before too much longer...

  12. Re:Mentally challenged editor? by Megane · · Score: 2

    Sorry, your fucking retarded editor is in another castle!

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  13. Re:Upload the ROM data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    >I've never heard of "NES-SRP-TEST-02" and apparently neither has Google

    I'd bet it has heard of it now ...