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South Korea To Restart Its Oldest Nuclear Reactor

ananyo writes "South Korea's oldest nuclear reactor is set to restart after a four-month closure, despite strong opposition from local residents and activists. The Kori-1 reactor in Busan was shut down on 13 March, after it was revealed that the reactor and its emergency generator had temporarily lost power during routine maintenance the month before, causing the coolant temperature to rise. The power failure did not cause an accident, but a report by the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna discovered that senior engineers from Korea Hydro and Nuclear Power, which runs the reactor, had neglected the safety problems for more than a month after the loss of power. In June, after a safety check, the IAEA gave the green light for Kori-1 to resume operation. Korea's Nuclear Safety and Security Commission (NSSC) approved the restart on 4 July, but activists and local residents remain strongly opposed to restarting the reactor. At first, the Korean Ministry of Knowledge Economy, which oversees energy policy, had said that the restart would be delayed to alleviate anxiety. But the government changed its mind as a result of a nationwide heatwave that has put a strain on the country's electricity supply in recent days."

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  1. The needs of the few by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Would Koreans agree to pay more for, and use less, electricity as a whole so this reactor can remain offline?

    1. Re:The needs of the few by Spy+Handler · · Score: 2

      With a title like that, more like:

      The Koreans run into the reactor room, get hit with radiation, heroically pull out the uranium rod and replace it with a new one, while Kirk watches behind the glass in horror, and say to him "The needs of the few... i have always been... and shall be... your friend"

    2. Re:The needs of the few by C0R1D4N · · Score: 4, Informative

      For comparison, America's oldesr operational reactor Oyster Creek in NJ is 9 years older than this one

    3. Re:The needs of the few by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I understand what you're saying, but you are very much scaremongering here.

      The differences are:
      o The US reactor is not on in a tsunami zone.
      o The US reactor is geologically stable.
      o The US reactor's batteries are above sea level.
      o The US reactor's generator is above sea level.
      o The US reactor has at least three generators, shared between several other reactors, available on call.
      o The IAEA repeatedly gave bad marks to the Japanese reactor, for all of the elements which failed. They have given good marks to the US reactor.

      Basically, while it certainly is a reactor to keep our eye on simply because of its age, it has none of the risks which directly and/or indirectly initiated and exacerbated the situation in Japan. Basically they are the same design but the US reactor not only has none of the same risks, all of the known risks have been intelligently mitigated. Whereas in Japan, they were literally ignored.

      As such, a comparison without providing such details only serves to spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt and scaremonger without any rational justification whatsoever.

  2. "Activists" eh? by DeathToBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These things are always well-spun, from either side. For "strong opposition from local residents and activists" read "strong opposition from activists and the local residents they've frightened out of their wits."

    Activists *exist* to provide strong opposition to things. You never see something happening "despite luke-warm opposition from activists." The volume of their opposition does not make them right.

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    1. Re:"Activists" eh? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Beeing activists.

      Despite all the buzz they just have a hive mind.

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    2. Re:"Activists" eh? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This has to be the biggest straw man ever seen on Slashdot. Every debate about anything nuclear related always gets dragged back to the foaming-at-the-mouth screaming fear-mongering lunatic anti-nuclear extremists.

      I agree that the volume of their opposition does not make them right, but your attack of them (or rather a straw man version of them) doesn't make you right either. Debate the actual points being made.

      I actually joined some anti-nuclear protesters in Tokyo. They were noisy but clam and rational. They set up a family area away from the shouting for people with children and the elderly to join in. They made some good points. Care to debate them?

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    3. Re:"Activists" eh? by Rostin · · Score: 2

      Astroturfing is a way that activists try to take advantage of our bias in favor of "grassroots" movements. Pointing out that astroturfing might be occuring obviously doesn't prove the activists wrong, but it is a warning against being manipulated.

    4. Re:"Activists" eh? by sycodon · · Score: 2

      OK,

      The point is that they had a minor glitch, no one was hurt and nothing was damaged.

      They figured out what happened, fixed it, and now are going to restart it.

      What is the debate? There is no debate other than "activists" don't want it restarted because of their irrational fear of nuclear power.

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    5. Re:"Activists" eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The problem wasn't the minor glitch, it was the engineers that ignored the safety problems after the glitch. The only thing that gives me second thoughts about nuclear power is the human element. People cutting corners or not doing their jobs properly are the most dangerous part of nuclear power.

  3. Had to restart because there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They had to restart because there is a need for more electricity. I wish people started to realize this when they block new generators.
    They are safer, and you aren't exactly going to consume a lot less, are you? Thus either you are forcing us to hold older plants open for a lot longer than intended, or you allow us to make a new and better plant.

    By stopping new ones from being made, you are only making it more dangerous for everybody.

    1. Re:Had to restart because there by antifoidulus · · Score: 5, Funny

      You are right, I say that in order to reduce cooling costs we mandate that all Korean women aged 18-35 must walk around naked during the summer months. Save the earth!

    2. Re:Had to restart because there by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problems with "saving energy" is that it reduces your standard of living for next to no benefits.

      If we are going to truly have an increase in your standard of living we need more power plants and better technology. The "green" movement wants us to take away centuries of progress and live worse just because they think it's "better".

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    3. Re:Had to restart because there by khallow · · Score: 2

      Well, what is the cost of the CO2 they emit? The term "correcting market failure" makes sense only if the cost imposed is roughly the same size as the externality which existed. I don't think that happened here.

    4. Re:Had to restart because there by datapharmer · · Score: 2

      The UN boogeyman is just that, but your comment about housing workers in the factories reminds me of joking that the new super walmart being built in town was going to have apartments for the employees upstairs. I expected "yikes, scary" but what I got was "that makes sense!" which is even scarier coming from fellow Americans. Don't be fooled: people are for more complacent than you would like to think, and that was a decade ago.

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    5. Re:Had to restart because there by Yvanhoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have actually worked for a company that focuses on energy strategies and saw one of their studies result. In a modern country (IIRC the results were from UK) with reasonable architecture and infrastructure, at a high cost, you could save ~25% of energy, mainly through better insulation and smarter heating/AC.

      On the other hand, we have reached the plateau of the peak oil since 2007 (production stopped to increase and prices skyrocketed). THIS is the challenge we will have to face in the two next decades. Electrical vehicles will be needed. Not just personal cars, but also trucks, construction vehicles (my bet is that most will be wired), agricultural vehicles, possibly planes. That will take a lot more than the mere 25% we could save for a budget that would exceed the construction of 25% supplemental production capabilities.

      The best governmental strategy right now is :
      - save the energy that can be saved cheaply or even for free (~5-10%, actually probably less in well managed countries)

      - build lots of nuclear plants NOW that oil and energy to build them is cheap (compared to fuel costs in 10 years). Make them modern, make them safe. Make it possible that they use plutonium : it is a fuel that is basically free, foreign countries without the tech will even pay you to take care of their.

      - invest a lot in research. Make a courageous choice : do you believe in solar energy or fusion power? Choose one and invest massively. And remember : if a trillion dollars could give you Iraq's oil reserves, the result of these projects can give you a durable amount of energy that is far greater. Investment should be of a comparable scale.

      - if you live in US : do not shut down tokamaks. This is one of the dumbest long-term move. Realize this : in 20 years, there will be fusion power. The first to have it will either build plants for the whole world or even sell electricity directly. And China wants that badly.

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    6. Re:Had to restart because there by camperdave · · Score: 2

      Reduce the need for energy? There are twice as many people on the planet as when these reactors went online. How are you going to provide power for ten billion people without building more reactors, because shutting off a few lights here and there isn't going to cut it.

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    7. Re:Had to restart because there by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 2

      Americans are fat

      What's that got to do with anything?

      High efficiency standards(whether legislated for, or voluntarily adopted by a better educated populace) would help mitigate a lot of the harm, but the simple fact is population growth shits all over any efficiency gains. By far the simplest and most effective way to combat environmental disruption is to reduce the population. Perhaps some kind of incentive - like if you get to 60 and have had 2 or less kids, you get a free pension or something.

      The optimal solution is to just come up with better ways of generating more power, and that is difficult and expensive, but I think ultimately worth it.

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    8. Re:Had to restart because there by BlueStrat · · Score: 2

      And not a single link to back up your claims.

      http://peakoil.com/publicpolicy/record-number-of-coal-fired-generators-to-be-shut-down-in-2012/

      http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/res_agenda21_00.shtml

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21

      Apologies for not including links. I know that doing a simple Google search is beyond many people's intellectual capabilities thanks to teacher's unions' grip on US schools.

      Obama has expanded gun rights since going in to office.

      Now that's just a bad joke.

      Strat

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  4. For the love of God by Grayhand · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just don't let any Iguanas near the reactor. We all know what happened with Japan! Worst of all there might be a bad US remake of the movie staring Matthew Broderick. Just safer all round to keep lizards away from any radiation.

  5. Re:Safety? by subreality · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... thought that all modern reactors were protected by passive safety mechanisms ...

    Kori-1 is a PWR from 1978 and like most reactors currently in service, it is a generation II design. These have many passive safety features, but they are generally not fully passively safe.

    Some Gen-III reactors (1990s tech) and most Gen-III+ reactors (2000s tech) have full passive safety, in addition to many other safety improvements like simplified designs, better containment, better redundancy, etc. Gen-IV designs (future) step it up to inherent safety - for example pebble beds (meltdown is impossible because thermal expansion stops the reaction even if all cooling strategies fail) or my favorite, the LFTR (liquid fuel - you can't melt down when you're already melted, and thermal runaway just drains it into a basin in a noncritical configuration; and it's an unpressurized design, which eliminates tons of problems).

    So does this actually pose a safety risk?

    Yes - like everything worth doing in life, there is always risk. In this case the risk is that the reactor requires water to be actively pumped for a while after shutdown. The risk is generally acceptable: a failure like the one that happened a few months back doesn't cause a sudden catastrophic failure. There is considerable thermal mass in the water inside the reactor so the temperature rise is gradual. In event of a failure you have days to get some power back online. In the case of the failure a few months back, the power was back within minutes and there was little chance that they wouldn't be able to manage it in time. The incident wasn't an acute safety risk; but it was a failure that shouldn't have happened in the first place, so it's somewhat worrying.

    The problem is if you have a disaster like the Japan earthquake: if the power is knocked out and all your infrastructure is too crippled to fix the grid or truck in some generators; then things go sideways. These are low frequency events, but they happen, which is why in my opinion we need to start building modern reactors so we can decommission these old Gen-II relics.

  6. Re:Their problem by 1s44c · · Score: 2

    So what, if it melted down it would be a great way to get rid of the n. koreans. I happily advocate nuclear power for my enemies.

    And you would happily destroy your friends ( south Korea ) to also destroy your perceived enemies ( north Korea. ) ?

  7. Activists FOR better safety systems would be new by tp1024 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure, this is pie-in-the-sky thinking. But imagine what would happen if activists would not protest *against* the restart because of safety problems, but *for* better safety systems before the reactor is to be restarted.

    They might actually end up doing something good for a change. Of course, this would require a much more cerebral process than a pavlovian reflex. You would actually have to understand what happened and understand what needs to be done about it. Finally, you'd need to protest for some specific activity - not just against a very general one - which is certainly not going to be a nice catchy phrase.

    This case calls for a thorough investigation of the generator failure and review of all generators. Perhaps (actually quite likely) the addition of more emergency generators to provide for redundancy and finally the investigation of all similar reactors. (Although Kori-1 seems to be unique in Korea, while the other reactors in Kori are more advanced Westinghouse designs. So this may or may not limit the applicability.)

    Obviously, not a nice catchy phrase, but much more useful.

  8. Re:Safety? by tp1024 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the Gen III+ is Soviet 1980ies tech, but don't let Westinghouse hear that. The Soviet Union published its AES-88 design in 1988 and handed it over for review in Germany - after Chernobyl, this was called for. The AES-88 is a passive design and predates the AP-600 by 10 years. There were several other designs as well all designed until about the time of the break-up of the Soviet Union. (After this some 2-3 million people starved/froze to death or otherwise perished in the worst economic crisis the world has never heard of. Life expectancy in Russia dropped to levels not seen since a certain Josef Stalin. In short: They had other problems.)

    More designs followed much later. The latest being the AES-2006. Which adds a core catcher and is more economical than the AES-88, without sacrifying the passive safety, as it was in the AES-92. The AES-92 had a large pool of cooling water to provide emergency cooling without electricity for 12 hours or so, but no heat removal systems to recondense and recycle the cooling water. AFAIK those that have been build were refitted since, but I might be wrong. The AES-2006 also has hydrogen catalyzers by design, I'm not sure if this was the case in the older ones.

    (Please note: Russian designes distinguish between the reactor/power system and the power plant design as a whole. The AES-2006 design is implemented in all of the VVER-1200 power stations, for example.)

    Better still are the breeder reactors, which are fully passive by design. The BN-600 is still operating, three BN-800 are under construction, two in China, one in Russia. The main problem is, of course, the flamable coolant (sodium). A lead cooled commercial reactor is supposed to be finished in 2017.

    To make a long story short: If you're looking for the latest in nuclear power, look at Russia. (And yes, this came as a surprise to me as well.)

  9. Re:Activists FOR better safety systems would be ne by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    But imagine what would happen if activists would not protest *against* the restart because of safety problems, but *for* better safety systems before the reactor is to be restarted.

    That is one of the things that people in Japan have been asking for. The problem is that to be really safe the bar has to be set so high that no reactor would pass it. For example the 11/3 quake was a magnitude 9, and most Japanese reactors are only certified to magnitude 7.3. If the epicentre were close to one of them it would not be certified to survive it without the reactor cracking, the control rod mechanism failing or the cooling system being damaged and so forth.

    Japan is mostly earthquake proof, but even so when there are big ones there is still damage and people are still killed. The belief was that Japan could overcome this with its reactors and make them safe, but it appears that predictions of the maximum amount of lateral force experienced and the height of any resulting tsunami were wrong, and it is hard to escape the conclusion that our understanding of earthquakes is not as good as we thought it was. Remember that we are not just talking about Fukushima here.

    Earthquakes happen all the time in Japan. When there is damage the Japanese learn from it and take steps to prevent the same thing happening. The worry here is that no steps have been taken because, well, there are not really any to take short of demolishing and re-building the reactor based on a more resilient design.

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