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Adafruit Releases Educational Linux Distro For Raspberry Pi
ptorrone writes "Open-source hardware company Adafruit has released a Linux Raspberry Pi distro for hardware hacking and teaching electronics. This distro comes with SPI, I2C, & OneWire WiFi. It also has some things to make overall hacking easier, such as sshd on startup (with key generation on first boot) and Bonjour (so you can simply ssh raspberrypi.local from any computer on the local network). The distro is called Occidentalis v0.1. Rubus occidentalis (the black raspberry) is derived from Raspbian Wheezy, and is available for download here."
At least they stopped posting buttcoin stories.
Why not go over to Betanews where there are 13 stories about the Samsung Galaxy series posted every day?
Wait until they post about my beowulf cluster of bitcoin mining raspberry pi made with an arduino-controlled 3d-printer.
It was my understanding that the Pi was more of a hobbyist/educational market -- it's not for people who want a cheap computer (which is what your android device is) but for people who want a REALLY POWERFUL Arduino. Find me an Android device with SPI/I2C/OneWire. Or with GPI/O pins in general. I know there are devices to do that, but what kind of cost is that adding to your Android phone. Plus your phone seems cheaper because it's contract-free -- but that's only a benefit if you plan to use it in a way that it can still be your phone. I was considering a Pi for a barbot (though I'll probably just use my old laptop and an MSP430 for I/O) -- I'm certainly not building my phone into my bar...
Hopefully before Apple sues you for it.
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(Not sure how a Pi is a better choice for a budding programmer than an Android phone.)
How many Android phones can you quickly and easily plug a keyboard into? And a mouse, and power the phone at the same time? And get a decent resolution on a monitor? Can you put your text editor up on one side of an Android screen and your terminal on the other? Just how much programming is actually possible using only an Android phone (on which you probably won't have root without jumping though hoops) anyway?
I was interested in one, once, but you can get a much more powerful Android phone for the same price as a Pi
Really? Without a contract? I wouldn't mind a link to one.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
Adafruit are great. They produced an enhanced clone of the legendary Roland TB-303 bass synth and sequencer, then open sourced the circuit diagrams. Unlike the dozens of prevous 303 clones, they actually cloned the sequencer which was as essential to the appeal of the machine as the synth section.
The RPi can run full Debian, not a crippled phone OS. If you want to do phone development fine, but it's probably better to learn skills that will transfer when the app bubble collapses.
My old epic 4g comes with a keyboard.
It has an undocumented feature of video out as well.
There are a number of compilers and IDE available for various languages on android.
For your other features, you will need to go with a tablet.
My infinity with the keyboard dock accepts a USB mouse, and likely accepts a bluetooth mouse even without the keyboard dock (don't have a bluetooth mouse to try with).
Multiple apps on screen: http://www.themobileindian.com/news/940_View-multiple-apps-on-one-Android-screen
I don't really have an opinion on which platform makes a better toy/experimental development platform, but neither is completely incompetent at the task.
I wish they would just recommend the ArchARM image already; the whole Arch philosophy syncs up so well with the Pi. What could they possibly offer that isn't easily "hackable" into a fresh install of just about any distro anyway? They recommend it as a learning tool when the true learning tool is being left with absolutely nothing at install. What teaches you more than leaving your partition table in shambles or getting a little too comfortable with sudo and mixing up the arguments to dd? In the end it doesn't make a whole lot of difference, but ArchARM has the ssh daemon running at startup (and doesn't the Debian image as well?): this isn't a feature.
Looks nice, but it seems the download link (Amazon S3 mirror) isn't working. I keep getting HTTP 403 Forbidden. Try back later I guess.
There's absolutely no reason why you can't run debian on a phone. Okay it will be pretty useless as a phone but if you just want to use an old phone you have lying around then it will run it. Even aged smart phones are more powerful than a lot of devices I put linux on now as part of my day job. The lowest spec I ran desktop linux on was an 30Mhz ARM-6 with 128MB of RAM. I had full X running on that with fvwm2 window manager. This was back in 1998.
I was wondering what this is. Turns out slashdot/the submitter didn't understand "one wire, and wifi".
I love Adafruit. I love my Pi. But how is this news. Its just a slightly modified distro with a couple of extra kernel drivers compiled up. If they'd built them as DEBs then they could have just been dpkged in to wheezy anyway.
...is support for SPI and I2C. I'm hoping they've also applied (and tested) some of the latest kernel patches for GPIO interrupt support for the Pi. Only thing that makes this news for me is that I don't have waste the time side-building my own distro to get all this working (not to mention having a friendly ARM cross compiler, although crosstool helps with that immensely). I've grown really lazy as my years in Linux usage increase. Let the development begin.
The raspberry pi is an actual low cost computing device. Most phones are way more expensive but the cost is hidden because it is subsidized by the price of your multi-year contract. There is no way an android phone of comparable computing power and with the same out of the box compatibility with peripherals. Sure if you have an old phone lying around that can be powered, output HDMI and accept a keyboard and mouse all at once you can do that. The raspberry pi was designed as a low cost educational computer, something needed in bulk by schools. Also handy for those of us who want low power network devices and don't have old phones to recycle.
There is no memory shortage. yes I have heard of XFCE. Go away.
Let me know when I can have one of these delivered next day via amazon, until then I don't care about the PI.
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Exactly this.
Since it can run Debian GNU/Linux, that freedom alone makes it infitinetly more user-empowering than running Android Dalvik/Linux.
Hopefully before Apple sues you for it.
Well. avoid rounded corners, then!
It was my understanding that the Pi was more of a hobbyist/educational market -- it's not for people who want a cheap computer (which is what your android device is) but for people who want a REALLY POWERFUL Arduino. Find me an Android device with SPI/I2C/OneWire. Or with GPI/O pins in general. I know there are devices to do that, but what kind of cost is that adding to your Android phone. Plus your phone seems cheaper because it's contract-free -- but that's only a benefit if you plan to use it in a way that it can still be your phone. I was considering a Pi for a barbot (though I'll probably just use my old laptop and an MSP430 for I/O) -- I'm certainly not building my phone into my bar...
I'm afraid I can't agree on that. Firstly, because I believe that the stated goals of the RPi's developers was quite explicitly a "cheap computer to facilitate learning" and secondly because the RPi isn't nearly as well suited for primitive hardware hacking as the Arduino.
I have designed Arduino circuits to serve as solar charge controllers, scan punched cards and operate home automation systems. I have run a Raspberry VM (don't have the hardware yet) that emulates an IBM System/370 mainframe computer (via Project Hercules) and acts as a direct replacement for one of my older webservers running Apache/PHP and MySQL database client.
Actually, I'm seriously thinking of using a Raspberry Pi as a scheduler and smart control interface to an Arduino X-10 automation controller.
What Pi has that supports the "super cheap PC" idea is analog video out... in the US at least, analog televisions are basically free to pick up. That's something that Arduino really doesn't have.
Plus, if you're an uber style conscious hacker, you can do your Arduino development on your Pi...
I was curious about this as well and his claim actually isn't as far off as you might think. Amazon's got prepaid phones that support HDMI output starting around $220. Personally I've got about $90 into my Pi, counting the SD Card and case. If you also want WiFi that's another twenty bucks, plus another $13 for a powered USB hub since the Pi itself can't put out enough juice. A phone's still more expensive, but isn't too much more when you consider it'd also have a built-in display, battery, and GSM or CDMA radio.
There are shields for video output http://www.wayneandlayne.com/projects/video-game-shield/
The video output shield is $22.50. This puts it only $12.50 less than the Pi. It also limits you to black and white, and does not have HDMI. Since the cheapest I have seen the arduino for is $11.50, I am thinking that once you decide you need video, it is time to move up from the arduino to the Pi.
Not to mention: can it run Linux?
Not to mention: can it run Linux?
Which? The Pi or the Arduino. The Pi is targeted specifically towards Linux. The Arduino's standard OS is a real-time process controller, and I'm not sure how much external beefing up (RAM, etc.) it would take to make a Linux machine out of it.
For most of us, I think it would be less work - and probably cheaper - to leave them to their separate specialties.
Wait until they post about my beowulf cluster of bitcoin mining raspberry pi made with an arduino-controlled 3d-printer.
Is the cluster controlled by an Android botnet?
I'm very aware what the Pi is and why it exists. I was merely pointing out that there's no reason why you couldn't run Debian on a phone if you happen to have one. Personally for me the HDMI out and keyboard is not really that important to me. I tend to develop on my Pi either by cross-compilation or ssh-ing from my Mac.