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Kindle E-Book Sales Surpass Print Sales In UK

twoheadedboy writes "Book lovers are increasingly turning to e-books, and in the UK Amazon has announced it now sells more e-books than physical copies on Amazon.co.uk. Kindle books surpassed sales of hardbacks in the UK back in May 2011 at a rate of two to one and now they have leapfrogged the combined totals of both hardbacks and paperbacks."

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  1. kindle...? by macshit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So does the kindle support ePub yet ...?

    (or non-latin scripts?)

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    1. Re:kindle...? by Altanar · · Score: 4, Informative

      File formats supported: "Kindle (AZW), Kindle Format 8 (AZW3), TXT, PDF, Audible (Audible Enhanced(AA,AAX)), MP3, unprotected MOBI, PRC natively; HTML, DOC, DOCX, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP through conversion." Kindle has supported non-latin scripts since the Kindle 3 model that came out in 2010.

    2. Re:kindle...? by Havenwar · · Score: 5, Informative

      I actually don't know how most people put media on their kindles, but I use calibre. http://calibre-ebook.com/

      It converts from epub to mobi without any issues as far as I've seen. The main achilles heel is pdf's as far as I'm concerned... sure, the kindle gladly displays them, but you can't change font size or anything but have to rather zoom in on parts of static pages, which is very annoying. Of course this isn't a problem with kindles, but rather typical of the PDF format.

    3. Re:kindle...? by Havenwar · · Score: 3, Informative

      In my experience PDFs convert badly, partly because many times they are badly made - the text might be encoded as images rather than text, or there might be security added so that you can't select text or such. Of course this depends on where you get your PDFs from, but as a generalization of the pdfs in the ebook scene it seems to hold accurate.

      But like I said, this is a problem with PDFs, not with the kindle.

    4. Re:kindle...? by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are only two devices that are useful for reading pdf's.

      Kindle DX, and iPad. you really need the big screen.

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  2. Can we get our rights back, please? by wild_quinine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Another vindication for technological progress, and another steely blow to the right of first sale.

    1. Re:Can we get our rights back, please? by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Good luck with flogging that high horse with your buggy whip.

      If you want to buy a tangible object, read it, sell it, rub it all over your nekkid body while singing Yankee Doodle, you're still free do so.

      Meanwhile, the rest of us will shed our hair shirts and enjoy living in the future.

      OK, the science. What we buy is a copy. We can't sell that copy without selling the physical device that it's on. Really, we can't. To get it on someone else's device, we'd have to make another copy.

      Get that? It's not semantics, we can't actually sell the eBook that we bought, we can only duplicate it.

      What does your most high and holy doctrine of first sale have to say about that? Given it was conjured up in the stone age by slave owning wizards (to hear tell), I'm guessing not a lot.

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  3. Re:That's not because eBooks are taking off... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously that's quite a claim and needs a bit of backing up. UK folk aren't all dribbling TV-addicts whose idea of literature is The Sun "newspaper".

    Given the circulation figures of The Sun, I think you're not doing a great job of disproving the grandparent's assertion.

    For my own part, I'm a reader with a voracious appetite for new material.

    If you put down your book for a minute and go and wander around for a bit then you might discover that you are not part of the majority.

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  4. Re:That's not because eBooks are taking off... by Sique · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's a fine example of where socialism breeds it's own suicide by providing for everyone regardless of the effort they make.

    Why is that socialism? The U.S., which cannot be accused of being too socialist, has the same problem, while the pretty socialist Finland does not. Don't blame every social failure on Socialism, it's just a cheap excuse not to do anything about it!

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  5. Re:That's not because eBooks are taking off... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are you stupid?

    The current problems with education are the result of a National "one size fits all" Curriculum, a Tory measure, plus the privatisation of exam boards so there is a standards race to the bottom to maximise the number of students taking your papers. Also a Tory measure.

    People whine about measures of 40+ years ago like the combining of comprehensives and grammar schools, forgetting that deciding people's future at the age of 11 was an absurd idea, and that all good schools put people into sets by subject according to ability (though, again, the NC and its offspring make this much more difficult than it should be).

    And I say this as someone who went to a top fee-paying private school, having won a continuation and regular scholarship before my 13th birthday.

    Of course, we could go back to pre-"socialism" literacy levels, back in the day when only the sons of rich parents or the wards of generous sponsors even had a full education... indeed, it probably wouldn't matter for people like me, as I naturally shine. But it would matter for people like you, because you don't seem very smart. Now shine my shoes.

  6. It has become my preferred method of reading by Shivetya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    having a Kindle touch, Kindle Fire, and even an iPad 2, I find myself reading almost all new books on the Kindle Touch. For two reasons, its so damn light and second because I can use it in full sun light.

    For me nothing beats being able to read outside without having to worry about glare and portability. While I am still a fan of hard cover books, having shelves of them, I am more than happy to own an e-reader version of them. Too bad publishers don't help the trend and follow a similar model DVD publishers do, where you can get a digital version without your hard copy.

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  7. "Amazon sales" not "UK sales" by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "Kindle E-Book Sales Surpass Print Sales In UK"

    Bullshit. The actual story is Kindle E-Book Sales Surpass Print Sales ON AMAZON In UK.

    Huge difference.

  8. Re:But how many books are actually read? by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Sure, more e-books are bought, but how many of those are read?"

    You mean people put them on imaginary shelves so that it looks pretty?

    Reading is sort of the point with e-books, their value as status symbols is nil, you can't impress people like with leather bound volumes, bought by the yard to decorate your condo.
    You can't use them as paper weights nor use them to flatten dried flowers, you can't use them as door stoppers, you can't level old tables with them, you can't hide cash in them nor hollow them out to hide your stash.

    I pasted a link below with other stuff you can't do with ebooks.

    http://www.neatorama.com/2011/04/27/cool-non-literary-uses-for-books/

  9. It's still a bad deal by davide+marney · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You buy two books from Amazon, one physical and the other for the Kindle. After you finish reading them, you want to pass it around your family and friends. To share the physical copy, you just ... hand it to someone. To share the Kindle copy, you must give Amazon that person's email address. They are then allowed to read it for two weeks. And you can only share it once.

    Given the fact that Kindle books often cost the same or more than physical books, these restrictions make the Kindle versions a very bad deal for the consumer. Worse, in my opinion, than DRM on music, because you have to give up the email address of the person you are sharing your purchase with. Name me one other merchant who requires that you personally identify the person you share a purchase with. I'm not sure that's even legal, but even if it is, it's a horrible precedent.

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  10. Re:First edition by BlackCreek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > This may not be an issue for the big names in publishing but it will be the end of many small specialist publishers if they go all digital. These small publishers may actually be better off staying analog since printed books are a pretty good anti piracy defense plus those customers that are really interested in this specialist literature will still buy the paper books.

    I read many things that go under 'specialist literature'. Trouble is, there is so much (good) stuff to read that I one of the ways I select what to read is "is it available as an e-book?". If a writer/publisher can't be bothered to sell their content in the way I want to consume it, I'll just shop elsewhere.

    Really, books don't make a profit by selling only to those who absolutely ****must**** get it (perhaps with honorable exceptions).

  11. Re:"Amazon sales" not "UK sales" by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Amazon is thought to have approximately 20% share in total book sales in 2011, so it may still be fairly indicative of the market as a whole.

    Since no one else sells Kindle books, that means 10% of all "book" sales are Kindle. Not over 50%. Ignoring other ebook formats, of course, but so did TFA.

    Obviously number of ebooks has gone up, but they don't "surpass print sales in the UK" without a lot of qualifications added to that statement.

  12. Re:"Amazon sales" not "UK sales" by Shrike82 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Amazon is thought to have approximately 20% share in total book sales in 2011, so it may still be fairly indicative of the market as a whole.

    Except brick-and-mortar stores don't really offer e-books, and Amazon is a skewed sample as they're pretty much the champion of digital book purveyance. So no, not fairly indicative at all I'd say.

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  13. Re:First edition by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, but you only have to scan it once. Then release it on the internet. Maybe it won't end well for small time publishers, but the authors they publish could see a boost in the popularity of their work. I've read way more books on my eReader in the past year, than I read in the previous 5 years before I owned it. And every book I've read on my eReader was not pirated (many were free however). As Cory Doctorow says, the problems for most authors isn't piracy, it's obscurity. Getting people to read your work is the hardest part. Once the author has you reading his books, it's that much easier to get you to pay for one.

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  14. Re:First edition by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

    publishing only ebooks will lead to massive piracy

    Why any more piracy than will already exist with current levels of ebook distribution? I'm not really convinced by what you're saying.

    There are clearly plenty of people like me who buy ebooks, and apparently even more than buy paper books now, at least among online savvy shoppers. Yes, there will always be freeloaders, but not everyone is that selfish.

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  15. Re:First edition by BlackCreek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In other words: "If people can't be bothered to publish their stuff in a format that I can pirate I don't read their books."sound like you aren't much of a loss as a customer. All it takes to ruin a small indie publisher is one guy like you cracking their kindle books and putting their entire line on bittorrent. Where is the motivation to go digital?

    No, those are your words stupid AC. Please re-read (with your brain in working mode):

    >> Trouble is, there is so much (good) stuff to read that I one of the ways I select what to read is "is it available as an e-book?".
    >> If a writer/publisher can't be bothered to sell their content in the way I want to consume it, I'll just shop elsewhere.

    One of the ways "I **select** what to read". If you don't sell it digital, I will just buy some other book. Shop elsewhere, as in 'shop from someone else'.
    If people can't be bothered to sell digital for the kindle (I don't even bother with Adobe digital editions), I just read something else that is available for the Kindle.

    The motivation for a publisher to go digital is to actually be able to sell books to the most avid book readers, who are all migrating or have migrated to e-readers. Publishers not going digital will be out of the market in 5 years or less (assuming you have a platform like the Kindle for the given language, there are only what 5 6 languages with real books for sale at Amazon).