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MS-DOS Not Stolen, New Forensic Analysis Concludes

theodp writes "Challenging earlier assertions that Bill Gates got the rewards due Gary Kildall, a forensic analysis conducted for the latest issue of IEEE Spectrum concludes that the landmark MS-DOS operating system which Bill Gates and Microsoft licensed to IBM was an original piece of work, not stolen goods. Using his company's CodeSuite forensic software, Bob Zeidman said he found no evidence that QDOS or MS-DOS was copied from or was a derivative of Gary Kildall's CP/M. So, what do you think of Microsoft expert witness (pdf) Zeidman's "if-the-codebase-doesn't-fit-you-must-acquit" arguments?"

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  1. meh by kelemvor4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it's interesting only as a matter of curiosity at this point.

    1. Re:meh by PRMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He didn't even swindle it. Microsoft paid for it outright, source code and all license rights. So it really doesn't matter if it was exactly the same. It's not Gates' fault that the other guy didn't have a buyer like IBM waiting.

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  2. Re:"The smearing of a computer legend" by cnettel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From your link: "What is the evidence, then, that QDOS was a derivative work – a rip-off? The answer lies in the API, which describes how software can call up the underlying operating system and make it work for the user. The first 26 system calls of MS-DOS 1.0 are identical to the first 26 system calls of CP/M."

    Yeah, just like Linux and WINE are rip-offs. The need to map system calls by number and not only name was of course due to the fact that the actual calling mechanism worked by number. However, the IEEE article is still strange, since the matters described are already settled. On the other hand, the legend of DOS being stolen and not only a clone lives on, in some places.

  3. Who else copied Apple? by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Windows? -> copy of MacOS Classic

    Any more than Android or GNOME or KDE is a copy of Apple products?

  4. Re:Seriously? by hazydave · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The PET was a much better design. And back then, it was all good... in fact, Chuck Peddle (inventor of the PET and the MOS 6502) actually helped Woz on some critical issues to get the Apple I up and running. But Peddle had a whole system approach, thus, all the other chips Commodore made to support the 6502. If you look at the Apple I/][ or may of the other early personal computers, you usually see a Microprocessor, some memory chips, and a vast sea of SSI and MSI parts from the TTL databook. If you look at early Commodore machines, you find all sorts of integration.

    But there's a vast difference between "inspired by" and "copied". And even then, in layers. Steve Jobs saw the Xerox Alto and got inspired. Apple didn't really copy the UI, they actually left out some of the good stuff. And of course, the OS they created was vastly inferior, and the internals had nothing to do with the Xerox system. Microsoft did actually borrow some of Apple's stuff, but they's because they actually did exchange code. Most of Windows had nothing to do with MacOS, and the OS design was not something any experienced OS designer would have some up with (eg, the OS treating an application as a series of callbacks)... and that's not even counting all of the serialization Windows did in Win32 to prevent real multitasking.

    Windows NT, on the other hand, was directly inspired by VAX/VMS (via Dave Cutler), but also ran a POSIX API layer from the get-go. But that was a standard by then, so no really a "copy" of UNIX anymore.

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  5. Re:Alternatively... by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but this is because this was the early eighties, the era of Pacman lawsuits, to be followed a few years later by Apple's infamous look and feel suits against DR and Microsoft/HP.

    Oh how the times have changed.

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