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US Gov't Can't Be Sued For Warrantless Wiretapping

Wired has an article about a ruling from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals saying the government can't be sued over intercepting phone calls without a warrant. The decision (PDF) vacated an earlier ruling which allowed a case to be brought against the government. The plaintiffs in the case argued that the government had implicitly waived sovereign immunity, but today's ruling points out that it can only be waived explicitly. Judge McKeown wrote, "This case effectively brings to an end the plaintiffs’ ongoing attempts to hold the Executive Branch responsible for intercepting telephone conversations without judicial authorization." The ruling does, however, take time to knock down the government's claim that the case was brought frivolously: "In light of the complex, ever-evolving nature of this litigation, and considering the significant infringement on individual liberties that would occur if the Executive Branch were to disregard congressionally-mandated procedures for obtaining judicial authorization of international wiretaps, the charge of 'game-playing' lobbed by the government is as careless as it is inaccurate. Throughout, the plaintiffs have proposed ways of advancing their lawsuit without jeopardizing national security, ultimately going so far as to disclaim any reliance whatsoever on the Sealed Document. That their suit has ultimately failed does not in any way call into question the integrity with which they pursued it."

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  1. Re:so the guvmint has no one to answer to by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure they have to justify their action to their corporate owners come next election.

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  2. Re:Is Wiretapping Legal Now? by Mitreya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is Wiretapping Legal Now?

    Why, that depends. It would still be illegal for you to do it. Laws that can be enforced selectively are the most convenient!

  3. Re:God DAMN you BOOOSH!!!! by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, wait a minute. He left office almost 4 years ago....

    Doesn't matter - he's the one who made it law, so you're perfectly justified in taking him to task for it.

    Just like how anyone blaming Obama for his failure* to not only abolish said unconstitutional laws, but expand upon them, is equally justified.



    * failure to us. I'm sure the corporate masters who really run this nation consider it a rousing success.

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  4. Re:It's good to be the... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is no law, except as a rhetoric for justifying power.

    You are not a citizen - but merely a subject.

    It is 1164 AD - with Nike shoes and a Prius on the curb.

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  5. Wow, is this scary by jeko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For decades we have held that phone calls are private communications that require a warrant to intercept per the 4th Amendment. The Federal Government isn't arguing that they haven't violated the 4th. They're arguing that they're immune from any legal attempts to hold them accountable for violating the 4th.

    That's terrifying. It's so bad it makes me think I've wandered into tin foil hat territory, until I read the article:

    The San Francisco-based appeals court ruled that when Congress wrote the law regulating eavesdropping on Americans and spies, it never waived sovereign immunity in the section prohibiting targeting Americans without warrants. That means Congress did not allow for aggrieved Americans to sue the government, even if their constitutional rights were violated by the United States breaching its own wiretapping laws.

    That's Terry Gilliam "Brazil" logic, right there. The government is literally arguing they're violating the 4th Amendment, but that no one has the authority to hold them accountable. Literally, that the King is above the law. This ruling is so bad that not only does it violate the Bill of Rights, it violates the Magna Carta.

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  6. Re:Abolish sovereign immunity by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This ruling is proof that the government is in fact above the law. The constitution means dick if you can't get the courts to enforce it.

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  7. Re:so the guvmint has no one to answer to by BMOC · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FTA:

    “Under this scheme, Al-Haramain can bring a suit for damages against the United States for use of the collected information, but cannot bring suit against the government for collection of the information itself,” Judge M. Margaret McKeown wrote for the majority. She was joined by Judge Michael Daly Hawkins and Judge Harry Pregerson. ”Although such a structure may seem anomalous and even unfair, the policy judgment is one for Congress, not the courts.”

    Huh? The judiciary is abdicating its own power here. It is the actions of the executive in violation of clearly spelled out laws that is the problem here. Are they suggesting that government workers cannot be sued for clear negligence w.r.t. the law because Congress did not authorize it? Did the lawyers in this case sue the legislative branch, or the executive? They should have sued the executive, and they should have won.

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  8. So, what now? by clonehappy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I have this correctly, here's what the government has just told us:

    1. We violated the 4th Amendment to the Constitution.
    2. If you would like redress to your grievances, see line 3, below.
    3. Fuck You.

    Am I still a tinfoil-hatter, now?