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Leaked Emails Allegedly Tell of Global "Trapwire" Spy Network
judgecorp writes "The British government and police are customers of a controversial surveillance network called TrapWire, according to emails published by Wikileaks. The messages suggest that Scotland Yard and Number Ten Downing Street are customers of Abraxas Corporation, whose TrapWire network combines CCTV, license plate capture systems and databases. The TrapWire network has caused concern amongst online activists and Abraxas' site is currently not available, possibly due to attacks by Anonymous." There seems to be no end to the Trapwire conspiracy stories today, there's even one going around that various large companies such as Salesforce and Google were offered the chance to be part of the spy club.
Wikileaks it self is honey pot
Well, well. Isn't it so nice that after 'Total Information Awareness' was canned for being slightly too creepy even for congress, it has resurfaced as a free-swimming and not-at-all-sinister corporation heavily larded with CIA alumni. I assume that this is the American analog of our pal Putin's pithy "There is no such thing as a former KGB man"
If you'd like to see the extent of surveillance in US, watch this video released by anon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaG9pfEFSQ
Scary to say the least. 1984 is already here.
I think this may be something that really does qualify as a legitimate answer to the age olde question, "What could possibly go wrong?"
-- Stu
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My reputa
To what degree cameras are coordinated isn't a conspiracy, it's an eventuality.
"Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then..." -- P.K.Dick
Because they have nothing to hide.
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Sorry, but you fucking idiots who voted for Hussein Obama are just getting what you deserve. When you elect someone who is friends with tyrants and terrorists, what do you expect to get but tyranny and terrorism? You want to fix this rediculos mess? VOTE ROMNEY for 2012.
We stayed up and watched this, initially to see Benedict Cumberbatch: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/lastenemy/synopsis.html
All we need now is an unexplained outbreak of an unknown disease in some conflict-ridden part of the world. (Maybe the recent Ebola outbreak in Uganda? http://allafrica.com/stories/201208120306.html )
TFA indicates that this is part of a sales pitch. It's pretty weak evidence surely...
If 1984 were here, you'd be an unperson by now just for saying what you just said. People really need to read the book... surveillance was only one tiny facet of what makes the party horrible. It is the facet that enables the other, even worse parts, but it is not the be all and end all.
http://hongpong.com/archives/2012/08/12/breaking-feds-iircom-apparently-scrubbing-trapwire-related-websites-down-dns-not
which don't use the Smith only serve about 700 0sers marketing su8veys BSD fanatics? I've
I wish I could double-plus-like your post. There are other aspects of 1984 creeping into society.
I think in a post-9/11 world there will be new readings of what 1984 was actually about. I mean what is it REALLY about? It's about a disgruntled government employee who becomes a terrorist because he's having trouble getting laid. Can you dispute this is what happens? The proles in 1984 are perfectly happy but some rogue government clerk decides he wants to overthrow the government. Winston reminds me a little too much of Timothy McVeigh. Unfortunately geeks don't usually study literary theory so of course they'll think this is preposterous.
"Burton also wrote that TrapWire is "in place at every [high-value target] in NYC, DC, Vegas, London, Ottawa and LA"."
OTTAWA - So a foreign privately owned spy agency is gathering real time intel in the capital of Canada.
This is OK with the Canadian Army,CSIS, RCMP, Parliament, Local Law Enforcement, Privacy Commissioner and Stephen Harper?
Everybody signed off on this? The Tripwire people have been fully vetted? They all have security clearances? Everybody is crystal clear on data retention and data RESALE policy? What type of encryption is used on this? Who is allowed to view this data? Can the Americans use this data to assassinate people on Canadian soil?
I always thought Winston was seduced by the idea of taking down the government, but really was never too sure of himself. Chasing the tail just put him over the edge.
In this way he is nothing like Timothy McVeigh and more 'useful idiot'
The bad part is that 1984, like a lot of fiction, could pale next to current (or near future) reality. Would be like saying "Murphy was an optimist"
More info on TrapWire
http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=20120811160515405
and the original Anonymous hack on Strafor that produced these emails:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/27/wikileaks-publishes-stratfor-emails-anonymous
i09 has an article on TrapWire as well:
http://io9.com/5933966/wikileaks-reveals-trapwire-a-government-spy-network-that-uses-ordinary-surveillance-cameras
I'll just leave this here: http://www.goldengryphon.com/Stross-Concrete.html
The pain was excruciating and the scarring is likely permanent, but that just means it's working.
did you think they would stop with carnivore and echelon?
NO really?
and as always we smash all we find.....you cant hide your spying from me.
Hmm, lets see... a reading where Winston is the bad guy huh? Does the government still unleash angry, starving rats to eat through his face because he had the temerity to have sex with someone and talking about political change? (do note: Winston never actually does anything to hurt anyone)
Sorry, not buying the "Winston was the real bad guy interpretation".
If it does not happen literally by the book it does not mean it did not happen at all. Yes, you can still talk. Usually, unless someone is really interested in you being silent (try filming police, tell me how you liked it).
How long even that will last? Who knows.
Part of what makes slashdot slashdot is that 90% of the posters utterly lack any sense of perspective.
Theres a story about how Facebook is selling your data to russian mafia? Clearly, that is just as bad as what Hitler did in WW2. Obama enacts a healthcare plan youre not a fan of? Communist china, and Obama is Mao. Romney takes a stance on abortion that you dont like? Clearly, this man is as repressive as Stalin.
It should come as no suprise that in any particular thread about surveilance, at least one person insists that things are as bad as they are in 1984-- even if they happen to have not read that particular book.
No we are in a gataca(spelling?) Type world. To hooked on self pleasure to even care about it. The people in charge know this and thus ignore people like him. Because few will listen to him anyway.
Well, he was.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
To be fair a sense of perspective is the one thing no living being can afford to have. What with how insignificant they actually are when viewed from the total perspective vortex.
As wikileaks.org sustains a continuos DDoS attack of 10GB/sec some work around suggestions have been offered:
Tor Wikileaks onion - use Tor.
http://isax7s5yooqgelbr.onion/
Paste Links
http://privatepaste.com/942ba3fa3d/asdasdwqe
http://privatepaste.com/f9dd332518/weqwewqesada
207 emails below
http://dazzlepod.com/gifiles/search/?q=TrapWire
http://dazzlepod.com/gifiles/search/?q=TrapWire
MORE....
http://www.robtex.com/dns/trapwire.net.html#records
Regularly updated GIFiles
http://dazzlepod.com/gifiles/
Wikileaks node
http://wlcentral.org/node/2761
GIFiles
http://wl.wikileaks-press.org/gifiles/index.html
thanks to Diver Dan from RI and the AnonymousSpoon and m_cetera
How about a "Brazil"-type world? Can we agree on that?
Not only do people need to read 1984, but they also need to read Brave New World so they can start making more accurate literature comparisons.
I'm god, but it's a bit of a drag really...
NO, you need to get real, and stop living in a fantasy world of extremes!
I'm an independent social engineer (Not the cheap "I hack yoo!" kind you see at Defcon), and while I can't tell you who I work with, I can tell you that there is one thing, George Orwell didn't foresee:
How well social engineering would work, for controlling the masses.
Why kill a person, when you can engineer his reality so he does whatever you like him to do? That's just primitive.
Why do 24/7 surveillance, when you can alter his model of reality so that he will want to do what you want?
Most people live in a massive willful delusion. Be it religion, that there is a conspiracy... or that there is no conspiracy and everything is just fine.
Nobody is completely free. Not you, not me.
As soon as the gradient is strong enough, rationality goes out of the window. I mean look, at the comments here. How much of that is hard rational thinking, uninfluenced by past emotional bias, and based on personal observations? Nothing
All we know, is what we read, heard or saw coming from source... It's pretty much all indirect. Then, when you live in it enough, your whole reality is built on it. So you can't even give it up anymore.
And here's the nice thing: As long as it fits our own past experiences, and is in itself consistent... make it look like it comes from some source they consider an "authority" (yeah, another funny fallacy), and they'll believe anything. An-y-thing!
Now who do you think has learned, to feed those sources very well...?
I know I have. I know it's the driving force on this planet. And I know that pretty much everyone isn't even aware of it.
AND I know, that even when I tell you this, and tell you how you won't accept it, you will not ever accept it. Like that quote:
-- Revolver (2005, Guy Richie)
I sometimes wonder, if Richie may have had contacts to certain groups...
Vanishing Point?
The question is not when he's gonna stop but who is gonna stop him.
Wearing pants should always be optional.
also..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_(novel)
really, it's a trap.
Thank you for the information. Do you know where I can find of the same sunglasses you have?
I know I came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of gum.
Where on the scale from zero to Stalin (whose regime was the template for 1984) are you? Well, I'd say you're about 10 years from a fully fledge Hitler with SS Division Totenkopf, Hitler youth and all, and then it should be visible on the horizon.
Have fun, you brain dead blobs of retarded zombie drone scum!
There was a Canadian show I watched one episode of called "Continuum", the "good" guy (well, girl) is a "Protector" in the "CPA" (I forget if it's "civilian" or "corporate" protection). In other words, she's a secret police officer. No uniform, license to kill. The "government" is the Corporate Congress. After bringing about additional market collapses they bought out the world governments and dissolved them. The CPA doesn't arrest people directly, they implant "trackers" which work not by actually being a GPS tracker, but by inducing more and more pain until the "perp" turns themselves in at the CPA station for sentencing and removal of the excruciator (hungry rats are sooooooooo 20th century). (The pilot has her smashing somebody's face in for vandalism then implanting the excruciator). Her suit/implants record everything she sees and hears and transmits it to HQ for filing. So, bringing it back to the second post in this thread, one of her buddies calls the government Big Brother, and she says the exact same thing "It can't be because otherwise you'd be dead". All while her implants are filming and recording, and transmitting back to HQ for processing and filing.
Anyway, the whole show is so heavily "1984 but the government is the good guy" I couldn't believe it. But they make sure the "bad guys" (pro-democracy rebels) are equally unsympathetic by having them kill as many innocent people as possible 24/7 for no reason. (PS the bad guys are a government trained death squad used to put down protests, but for some reason maybe explained in episodes I didn't watch, they rebelled.)
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
That's because you aren't the product of 'new education' where we teach kindergarteners that sharing is evil and that when strangers in uniform grab your crotch, it's 'good touch' no matter how scared and icky it makes you feel.
http://www.trapwire.com/
Continue watching. The show got alot more interesting and nuanced after the first two episodes. Its getting harder and harder to tell who the "bad guys" are. (the show isnt the best scifi ever (they solve alot of problems with duce ex machina), but its interesting and being marketed heavily in canada which starts a good discussion over how far we would let the corporations run amok)
As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy
My nephew once suggested, "Ask yourself how important this problem is, viewed from 40,000 light years out."
It's easier to be a result of the past, but more fun to be a cause of the future! http://www.spacefinancegroup.com/
> Theres a story about how Facebook is selling your data to russian mafia? You don't have any data on Facebook, it all belongs to Facebook !
AccountKiller
First two clips are from InfoWars and Russia Today.
Yeaaaaaaah, I don't feel like being taken for a ride today.
This is actually a correct viewing of Brazil.
... wiretrap have little to do with catching terrorist but to spy on american attitudes and to do more against the american people.
With such information is is possible with a controlled media to then manipulate the people via the media. i.e. endless war drum banging for the invasion of Iraq.
Traffic cameras and their control centers are very capable of the likes of jamming up major city intersection (i.e. in Atlanta to bring all traffic can be brought to a standstill with nothing more than properly executed traffic signal timing. I know this from having experienced such delays with what amounted to nothing more than controlled traffic signals. This is the sort of thing terrorist or others to take over control of the people. The US government keeps changing important checks and balances that were created to prevent such tyrannical abuse..
Maybe its time to put the checks and balances back in place, instead of removing them.
Its not what such systems are claimed to be being created and used for but what they can actually be used for.
well the government is keeping power by maintaining constant war with rotating enemies. the war may or may not be real, in which case it's bombing it's own population...so there's that
The party, in 1984, was dependent upon their tools to maintain control. We seem to be building an awful lot of those tools for various reasons. You have to wonder what the long term impact of all of this will be. If we leave a lot of "tyrant friendly" toys laying about will a tyrant eventually show up to play with them? That is really what makes me nervous about all of this stuff. The powers that be now may really just want to protect people from crime or terrorists or whatever. Unfortunately these same tools could really put a hurt on the public if somebody not so nice where to take over. History has shown these things happen and we are really prepping the next dictator to be a tough one to get rid of.
The original point was that the person calling current society "1984" had never read the book. They just were using it as a generic term for "big government that I don't like."
Big Brother in 1984 isn't a surveillance state, it is a mind-control state. Surveillance is just part their means to that end. People who spoke out against the government, or even just questioned too much or acted wrong just disappeared. Not just from society, but from history, records were altered so that all trace of them was gone, they had never existed.
Hence if someone says "1984 is already here." What they are really saying is "I've never read the book." In the society of 1984 you couldn't make a statement against the government without being removed and reprogrammed or killed.
None of that is saying this is a good thing, just that it is not the society from 1984.
In one of the recent articles on sci-fi books there was an interesting discussion on how 1984 was nowhere near as prescient as Brave New World.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
I would respect the entertainment industry more if its writers didn't try to solve all plot problems with a Mussolini android.
Rich And Stupid is not so bad as Working For Rich And Stupid.
Oh, my! Business and government are colluding to invade our privacy and control our behavior? I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!
Come on, people, do the messy details of who is collecting what and selling it to whom really matter any more?
The general population has amply demonstrated its complacency in matters of collective privacy loss and stellar-scale coercion. Its not a question of enough people knowing, its a matter of not enough people caring or daring to put up any meaningful resistance. The flies can conquer the fly paper if they are so inclined, but they're quite happy with just buzzing around their dung-piles and breeding more flies.
An occasional gang of berserk teenaged vandals inspired by a few indignant bloggers does not democracy, much less a revolution, make.
Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
Nice website, it tells you it's a conspiracy nut site immediately with its header image before you even scroll down to see the article.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
If you'd like to see the extent of surveillance in US, watch this video released by anon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaG9pfEFSQ
Scary to say the least. 1984 is already here.
Isn't this convenient, the video has been deleted from YouTube. That is doubleplusungood.
is anyone surprised at this news? feels like i saw this coming? wikileaks still down.. check out this video on frequency about trapwire : http://www.frequency.com/video/trapwire-cops-feds-watching-you-at-all/56895287/-/5-13685 @onfrequency
Seriously people, stop bringing this up. Slashdot does not have GAME ANDES REDSHIFT clearance! Kid, the auditors are going to tear you a new one for this...
Well, in this case they're both apt: Both regimes relied on extensive surveillance.
It makes perfect sense, really. If you're going to oppress people, you need to know what they're up to so you make sure you oppress the people who might be opposing you. Otherwise, a popular movement might get started that opposes you, and then you might be overthrown.
I am officially gone from
Can anyone mirror the video? It's already gone.
I's not that he was an optimist, it's that his observation was expounded on later. What he said was "if there's a wrong way to do something, someone will do it that way." Pretty much self-evident, I'd say.
Free Martian Whores!
"According to a very good source responsible for domestic surveillance operations, an extremely serious al Qaeda terror plot has been uncovered targeting a financial institution, an entertainment centre and a government office building in Los Angeles. The same terrorist-surveillance team conducted pre-operational surveillance of all three sites. The group is currently under watch," he wrote.
Well then, now (a) I am supposed to believe an anonymous source -- which I won't -- so the "proof" of its effectiveness fails and (b) if the source is actually telling the truth - they just announced that they are watching an active Al Qaeda cell in L.A. So ... now they can go underground and try to lose the tail. If only there were other articles describing the details of the system . . . oh wait.
Thank you for the information. Do you know where I can find of the same sunglasses you have?
Fuck his sunglasses. I want to subscribe to his newsletter.
the video is not there anymore, the youtube user has closed their account. Do you have another link?
Well...this one *is* close to true...and not just because of Obamacare....this guys is definitely on the socialist bent...
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Please I can't find it anywhere. The original name was: "Big Brother is watching (prepare to end of privacy)"
I dont much like it, but youre out of your mind if you want to compare the two scenarios as you post from your comfortable, heated, internet connected house with a belly full of food.
> If you'd like to see the extent of surveillance in US, watch this video released by anon:
Account closed, what was the video name ?
AccountKiller
Maybe it is. But I think that it reflects much more negatively on the public than wikileaks if so. I know cryptome is no honey-pot. What should alarm us more than honey-pots is our collective ineffectualness in processing the information from such sources. It's almost like all the data in the world, exquisitely tailored to our liking, would have no effect either. It seems to me like world-leaders are treating the world along with humanity as a game, and like intoxicated children we play.
I used to think the same thing but I don't think so anymore. Julian Assange is someone they probably attempted to recruit and it looks like he decided to flee instead. Any time the police want to talk to you prior to charging you it's because they want to offer you a offer you can't refuse.
I would respect the entertainment industry more if its writers didn't try to solve all plot problems with a Mussolini android.
No, you wouldn't
I was not aware it was a contest, nor that the two dystopias were mutually exclusive/a society could not feature aspects of both.
I'm pretty sure it is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTc6JoGcco8
It's "Gattaca". And, no.
The name was "Anonymous – Big Brother is Watching (Prepare to End of Privacy)" by AnonOpsLegion (the account was deleted http://www.youtube.com/user/AnonOpsLegion)
I found this: http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/08/14/trapwire-investigation-links-transit-systems-and-anonymizer-in-global-surveillance-network/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vTc6JoGcco8#!
but I can't be sure if it is the same video...
40,000 light years out, home to the target audience of my dreams. Everybody, put your organs of prehension together and give a warm welcome to all those places we have been disbarred from seeing.
Motion is a smoke and mirror trick, the last time you moved, ever so slightly, was when they knifed and knotted your umbilical. Now i wouldn't bet the farm on the previous sentence, but i believe the it is quite possible true.
Behind the cabal of appearance, there exists a conspiracy between matter and number, and number and light!
The uploader's account has been deleted, what was in this video?
This is not news. This is Wikileaks publishing uncorroborated "evidence" that matches their expectations about "Big Brother".
Some things to remember:
Wikileaks has been more or less forgotten by the general public, so it's not surprising that they would take every opportunity to spout sensationalized conspiracy theories to regain the spotlight. After all, what would they be today without Mr. Manning's foolish self-sacrifice? A wanna be World News Daily.
Perhaps it is not feasible (or even desirable) for the /. editorial staff to vet everything that gets posted, but I for one am not interested in hearing every conspiracy theory floating on the web - regardless of the sympathy some may have for the source.
"We shall SPY on to the end, we shall SPY in France,
we shall SPY on the seas and oceans,
we shall SPY with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall SPY our whatever the cost may be,
we shall SPY the beaches,
we shall SPY on the landing grounds,
we shall SPY in the fields and in the streets,
we shall SPY in the hills;"
-- paraphrasing, the GREAT Winston Churchill
Nothing to see here -- move along now...
duce ex machina
Suddenly, Mussolini!
http://anonpr.net/trapwire-928/
I want to see it now too.
Can anybody HELP???
what is the name?