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Leaked Emails Allegedly Tell of Global "Trapwire" Spy Network
judgecorp writes "The British government and police are customers of a controversial surveillance network called TrapWire, according to emails published by Wikileaks. The messages suggest that Scotland Yard and Number Ten Downing Street are customers of Abraxas Corporation, whose TrapWire network combines CCTV, license plate capture systems and databases. The TrapWire network has caused concern amongst online activists and Abraxas' site is currently not available, possibly due to attacks by Anonymous." There seems to be no end to the Trapwire conspiracy stories today, there's even one going around that various large companies such as Salesforce and Google were offered the chance to be part of the spy club.
Well, well. Isn't it so nice that after 'Total Information Awareness' was canned for being slightly too creepy even for congress, it has resurfaced as a free-swimming and not-at-all-sinister corporation heavily larded with CIA alumni. I assume that this is the American analog of our pal Putin's pithy "There is no such thing as a former KGB man"
If you'd like to see the extent of surveillance in US, watch this video released by anon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaG9pfEFSQ
Scary to say the least. 1984 is already here.
I think this may be something that really does qualify as a legitimate answer to the age olde question, "What could possibly go wrong?"
-- Stu
/. ID under 2,000. I feel old now.
To what degree cameras are coordinated isn't a conspiracy, it's an eventuality.
"Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then..." -- P.K.Dick
Because they have nothing to hide.
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We stayed up and watched this, initially to see Benedict Cumberbatch: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/lastenemy/synopsis.html
All we need now is an unexplained outbreak of an unknown disease in some conflict-ridden part of the world. (Maybe the recent Ebola outbreak in Uganda? http://allafrica.com/stories/201208120306.html )
TFA indicates that this is part of a sales pitch. It's pretty weak evidence surely...
If 1984 were here, you'd be an unperson by now just for saying what you just said. People really need to read the book... surveillance was only one tiny facet of what makes the party horrible. It is the facet that enables the other, even worse parts, but it is not the be all and end all.
American politics is hopelessly polarized between the two poles of democrat and republican, each pole ensuring the survival of the other. You need to change the system by voting for any credible third party.
Voting for any part of the democrat/republican alliance will not reduce the power of the democrat/republican alliance.
Romney Ryan 2012, TAKE BACK AMERICA!
Romney Ryan 2012, Ensure the continuous oscillation between Democrat and Republican to the exclusion of all else.
If the answer is ever Republican or Democrat you oversimplified the question.
You Americans should have voted yesterday, if you know what I mean.
Hmm, lets see... a reading where Winston is the bad guy huh? Does the government still unleash angry, starving rats to eat through his face because he had the temerity to have sex with someone and talking about political change? (do note: Winston never actually does anything to hurt anyone)
Sorry, not buying the "Winston was the real bad guy interpretation".
Maybe it is. But I think that it reflects much more negatively on the public than wikileaks if so. I know cryptome is no honey-pot. What should alarm us more than honey-pots is our collective ineffectualness in processing the information from such sources. It's almost like all the data in the world, exquisitely tailored to our liking, would have no effect either. It seems to me like world-leaders are treating the world along with humanity as a game, and like intoxicated children we play.
Forward! -- Emperor Norton, 2012
Part of what makes slashdot slashdot is that 90% of the posters utterly lack any sense of perspective.
Theres a story about how Facebook is selling your data to russian mafia? Clearly, that is just as bad as what Hitler did in WW2. Obama enacts a healthcare plan youre not a fan of? Communist china, and Obama is Mao. Romney takes a stance on abortion that you dont like? Clearly, this man is as repressive as Stalin.
It should come as no suprise that in any particular thread about surveilance, at least one person insists that things are as bad as they are in 1984-- even if they happen to have not read that particular book.
Well at least the graphics are good.
As wikileaks.org sustains a continuos DDoS attack of 10GB/sec some work around suggestions have been offered:
Tor Wikileaks onion - use Tor.
http://isax7s5yooqgelbr.onion/
Paste Links
http://privatepaste.com/942ba3fa3d/asdasdwqe
http://privatepaste.com/f9dd332518/weqwewqesada
207 emails below
http://dazzlepod.com/gifiles/search/?q=TrapWire
http://dazzlepod.com/gifiles/search/?q=TrapWire
MORE....
http://www.robtex.com/dns/trapwire.net.html#records
Regularly updated GIFiles
http://dazzlepod.com/gifiles/
Wikileaks node
http://wlcentral.org/node/2761
GIFiles
http://wl.wikileaks-press.org/gifiles/index.html
thanks to Diver Dan from RI and the AnonymousSpoon and m_cetera
The hard part is that the 'alliance' has so much power, they manipulate any third party out of credibility so that no change can occur.
Malcolm Reynolds for President!
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Not only do people need to read 1984, but they also need to read Brave New World so they can start making more accurate literature comparisons.
I'm god, but it's a bit of a drag really...
Vanishing Point?
The question is not when he's gonna stop but who is gonna stop him.
Wearing pants should always be optional.
also..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_(novel)
There was a Canadian show I watched one episode of called "Continuum", the "good" guy (well, girl) is a "Protector" in the "CPA" (I forget if it's "civilian" or "corporate" protection). In other words, she's a secret police officer. No uniform, license to kill. The "government" is the Corporate Congress. After bringing about additional market collapses they bought out the world governments and dissolved them. The CPA doesn't arrest people directly, they implant "trackers" which work not by actually being a GPS tracker, but by inducing more and more pain until the "perp" turns themselves in at the CPA station for sentencing and removal of the excruciator (hungry rats are sooooooooo 20th century). (The pilot has her smashing somebody's face in for vandalism then implanting the excruciator). Her suit/implants record everything she sees and hears and transmits it to HQ for filing. So, bringing it back to the second post in this thread, one of her buddies calls the government Big Brother, and she says the exact same thing "It can't be because otherwise you'd be dead". All while her implants are filming and recording, and transmitting back to HQ for processing and filing.
Anyway, the whole show is so heavily "1984 but the government is the good guy" I couldn't believe it. But they make sure the "bad guys" (pro-democracy rebels) are equally unsympathetic by having them kill as many innocent people as possible 24/7 for no reason. (PS the bad guys are a government trained death squad used to put down protests, but for some reason maybe explained in episodes I didn't watch, they rebelled.)
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
That's because you aren't the product of 'new education' where we teach kindergarteners that sharing is evil and that when strangers in uniform grab your crotch, it's 'good touch' no matter how scared and icky it makes you feel.
Continue watching. The show got alot more interesting and nuanced after the first two episodes. Its getting harder and harder to tell who the "bad guys" are. (the show isnt the best scifi ever (they solve alot of problems with duce ex machina), but its interesting and being marketed heavily in canada which starts a good discussion over how far we would let the corporations run amok)
As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy
The original point was that the person calling current society "1984" had never read the book. They just were using it as a generic term for "big government that I don't like."
Big Brother in 1984 isn't a surveillance state, it is a mind-control state. Surveillance is just part their means to that end. People who spoke out against the government, or even just questioned too much or acted wrong just disappeared. Not just from society, but from history, records were altered so that all trace of them was gone, they had never existed.
Hence if someone says "1984 is already here." What they are really saying is "I've never read the book." In the society of 1984 you couldn't make a statement against the government without being removed and reprogrammed or killed.
None of that is saying this is a good thing, just that it is not the society from 1984.
I would respect the entertainment industry more if its writers didn't try to solve all plot problems with a Mussolini android.
Rich And Stupid is not so bad as Working For Rich And Stupid.
Oh, my! Business and government are colluding to invade our privacy and control our behavior? I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!
Come on, people, do the messy details of who is collecting what and selling it to whom really matter any more?
The general population has amply demonstrated its complacency in matters of collective privacy loss and stellar-scale coercion. Its not a question of enough people knowing, its a matter of not enough people caring or daring to put up any meaningful resistance. The flies can conquer the fly paper if they are so inclined, but they're quite happy with just buzzing around their dung-piles and breeding more flies.
An occasional gang of berserk teenaged vandals inspired by a few indignant bloggers does not democracy, much less a revolution, make.
Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
If you'd like to see the extent of surveillance in US, watch this video released by anon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKaG9pfEFSQ
Scary to say the least. 1984 is already here.
Isn't this convenient, the video has been deleted from YouTube. That is doubleplusungood.
Can anyone mirror the video? It's already gone.
I's not that he was an optimist, it's that his observation was expounded on later. What he said was "if there's a wrong way to do something, someone will do it that way." Pretty much self-evident, I'd say.
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