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First Mummies May Have Been Inspired by Field of Corpses

sciencehabit writes with a story about a field strewn with corpses in shallow graves. From the article: "Trekking through Chile's Atacama Desert 7000 years ago, hunter-gatherers known as the Chinchorro walked in the land of the dead. Thousands of shallowly buried human bodies littered the earth, their leathery corpses pockmarking the desolate surroundings. According to new research, the scene inspired the Chinchorro to begin mummifying their dead, a practice they adopted roughly 3000 years before the Egyptians embraced it."

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  1. COOLEST ... STORY TITLE ... EVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Out of all the years I've been watching /., I don't think I've ever seen a more bad-ass story title.

    1. Re:COOLEST ... STORY TITLE ... EVER by Grayhand · · Score: 2

      Out of all the years I've been watching /., I don't think I've ever seen a more bad-ass story title.

      I guess it's better than a more literal "First Mummies May Have Been Inspired by Field of Dried out Bodies"

    2. Re:COOLEST ... STORY TITLE ... EVER by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not sure how mummies get inspired by anything. They're mummies.

    3. Re:COOLEST ... STORY TITLE ... EVER by Iskender · · Score: 2

      I think it's still not as good as "Scientists Create Supersoldier from Helium."

      Okay so that was someone misreading "Supersolid" but I'm still going to pretend otherwise!

  2. Space aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It was space aliens. Ancient civilizations were all developed by space aliens who came to Earth for some unknown reason, and decided to teach us everything.

    1. Re:Space aliens by Nyder · · Score: 2

      It was space aliens. Ancient civilizations were all developed by space aliens who came to Earth for some unknown reason, and decided to teach us everything.

      Actually it seems they came down for raw materials and "created/evolved" the "humans" to be the work force. They got what they wanted, and left. We just built ourselves up since then.

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  3. ok sure but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    where are these 1,000s of naturally occuring mummies now? if they really had enough dead to "pock mark the landscape" like they say then there must be a lot of at least partially intact left?

    1. Re:ok sure but.. by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hard to say, really. They may still be out there, or they may have been rounded up and (mostly) buried when the region was converted to Christianity back in the 16th-17th century or so. Probably a bit of both, considering that scientists are still stumbling across the things.

      Hell, for all we know, they may have suffered the same fate as all too many Egyptian mummies, which were used as literal firewood and train boiler fuel, among other things.

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    2. Re:ok sure but.. by Sulphur · · Score: 2

      Hard to say, really. They may still be out there, or they may have been rounded up and (mostly) buried when the region was converted to Christianity back in the 16th-17th century or so. Probably a bit of both, considering that scientists are still stumbling across the things.

      Hell, for all we know, they may have suffered the same fate as all too many Egyptian mummies, which were used as literal firewood and train boiler fuel, among other things.

      Like being ground up for medicine?

    3. Re:ok sure but.. by cpu6502 · · Score: 3, Informative

      >>>mummies used as literal firewood and train boiler fuel,

      An urban legend started by Mark Twain.

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    4. Re:ok sure but.. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Like being ground up for medicine?

      Want to cure your sore throat, little boy? Mummy knows best.

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  4. Confused by readin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I found the story a bit confusing. If the climate was so dry that corpses didn't decompose, how was it wet enough to support a human population? Why weren't the corpses buried or burned in the first place? Were they burying the corpses in shallow graves and having them re-emerge for some reason?

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    1. Re:Confused by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Informative

      I can only answer one of those questions, but as far as how it supported a human population, the Atacama desert is an odd place: almost all of it is extremely dry and uninhabitable, but there are several oases that host some of the earliest sites of advanced civilization in the Americas.

    2. Re:Confused by cpu6502 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yeah I had to read it twice:
      - From 10,000 to 7000 BCE the area was dry
      - Then it became wetter so it was able to support a larger & more culturally-diverse culture
      - This culture saw a bunch of dried corpses laying-around from the previous 3000 years, so they decided to start mummifying people themselves.

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    3. Re:Confused by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The easiest explanation for the other bit is that the bodies came back "up" due to wind erosion, which the Atacama, like many deserts, would probably have more than enough of to go around.

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    4. Re:Confused by artor3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or, alternatively, the bodies were never buried by humans in the first place, and were instead partially buried by winds. If people set out through that desert trying to find another oasis, and didn't bring sufficient supplies (bearing in mind that they would have no idea what "sufficient" was), they would likely die too quickly to bury their dead.

    5. Re:Confused by Smauler · · Score: 2

      It's not that odd - the Nile delta is only a small strip of land compared to the countryside around it. It sustained one of the longest civilizations in history, in a desert region.

      Also, the coast is key in many situations. If you can get water off the land, and you're on the coast, you generally should be ok for food.

    6. Re:Confused by ericcc65 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I lived in the Atacama dessert for a couple of years so I can attest to the oasis concept, at least in part. For the most part I lived in cities and didn't know where I got my water, although I know there is one main river that makes it down to Antofagasta (the Loa river). But one time I took a trip a few hours inland. Now, keep in mind, the Atacama dessert (apart from the cities) isn't like your Mojave or anything like that, with tumbleweeds and Joshua trees and cacti. It's more like the surface of the moon (in fact there is a "valle de la luna"). Between cities there is nothing but dirt.

      At any rate, we eventually arrived at any incredible oasis. A nice stream flowing in a small valley, or more like a tunnel or crevice. I don't know if they were planted but there were tons of fruit trees (membrillo). Lots of lush vegetation. It was truly amazing, like something out of a movie, except you didn't see it until you were there because it was down below the surface.

    7. Re:Confused by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 2

      Like most of the cultures that preserve their dead, rather than burying/burning/exposing them they had a nearby place where natural preservation occurred, desert or cave which dessicated the body, and they learned how to make this more reliable ....

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  5. Re:Cemetery of Eden by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Informative

    Once the water is gone from a corpse, there really isn't much ecosystem left to go around for bacteria (or any other underground organisms that normally feed on dead human flesh).

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  6. Re:Cemetery of Eden by cpu6502 · · Score: 2

    Not sure why you're confused? Deserts dry-out the tissue & make it not decay. Even now in Egypt people are still finding thousands-year-old corpses that were not mummified, but the desert still preserved their bodies.

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  7. Field of Corpses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I only liked their early stuff.

  8. This is going to be fun... by Kittenman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "First Mummies may have been inspired by bad night's sleep"
    "First Mummies may have been inspired by bird song heard by someone"
    "First Mummies may have been inspired by Shakespeare's MacBeth"

    Isn't there a journalistic law that covers this sort of thing, when the answer is ' but probably not'?

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  9. I went there by Namarrgon · · Score: 4, Informative

    They really are everywhere, particularly the Ica/Nazca region. There are well-known fields like Chauchilla, where there's a few very well-preserved mummies sitting in a whole field of miscellaneous bones and fabrics mixed in with the rocks. (Side note: They're all sitting out in the open, with only a simple roof covering them, and even that was only added recently after a few drops of rain fell one year. The Atacama is dry.)

    And then there are minor burial areas scattered all over the place. Our guide pointed out a few caves by the side of the road in passing, some of which had been partially bulldozed when they built the road. You could see human bone fragments mixed in with the roadside rubble.

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  10. Re:Getting... colder by thmsdrew · · Score: 2

    First Mummies being a more contemporary, popular band. Everyone loves their music, thinks they're so original, pioneers, etc. Then we discover they were actually inspired by Field of Corpses?! Oh gosh!