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Verizon Bases $5 Fee To Not Publish Your Phone Number On 'Systems and IT' Costs

coondoggie writes "Let's say that for whatever reason, you'd rather your telephone number not be published. If you are a Verizon customer, that privacy privilege will cost you $5 a month. And how does Verizon justify such a significant fee for such an insignificant service? 'The cost charged to offer unlisted phone numbers is chiefly systems and IT based,' a media relations spokesman for the company tells Network World. (Asking the same question of online customer service elicited a predictably unenlightening response.) Sixty dollars a year to keep an unpublished number unpublished? Does that seem plausible?"

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  1. Revenue Stream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's called "alternate revenue streams" and they will try to nickle&dime-XXL you for almost everything. A one-time charge would be plausible, but a MONTHLY fee? This is gauging. But... guess what? There's nothing you can do.

    1. Re:Revenue Stream by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Informative

      $5 per month is no longer in the realm of "nickel& dime", it's bare-faced robbery.

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    2. Re:Revenue Stream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      True: It isn't even there to give away any more.

    3. Re:Revenue Stream by currently_awake · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes it does cost them $5/month. This is how much money they lose selling your name.

    4. Re:Revenue Stream by kenh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The $5 isn't the cost to 'not publish' the number, it is most likely a reflection of the value of that telephone number to various DB and telemarketers. By in listing the number, Verizon can't sell the data to third-parties. The dollar amount is likely as high as it is to try an discourage anyone from wanting the service, giving Verizon more numbers to sell and fewer exceptions to look out for in their database.

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  2. It's based on system design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Their system is design to make money for them while annoying you. I'd say it is working.

  3. It's true, folks! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Verizon has built a system where it is cost-effective to track every single $.10 text message and minute of call time; but it costs $5/month, forever, to keep a database field set to 'no' rather than 'yes'... Surely this is entirely plausible, no?

    1. Re:It's true, folks! by adlib24 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I wish they just cut the crap. Verizon has built a system where they can sell your listing for a profit. Some of that money is used to offset the cost of maintaining your line. Without that revenue stream they need to add a fee in order for you to be a profitable customer.

      It reminds of the situation with desktops and Windows. Because of licensing arrangements, it is cheaper to buy a Windows prefab than to buy a machine with no os. Crazy but true.

      Without certain features some products are not as profitable for vendors, so it is discouraging, but not surprising, that they would pass on the offset costs to the end-user.

  4. Justification by TimHunter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And how does Verizon justify such a significant fee for such an insignificant service?

    Because fuck you, that's why.

  5. Welp at least by Dyinobal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Welp at least I can go to one of the many other carriers, because there is no way they would implement such a fee themselves! I'm glad competition is so fierce between wireless carriers, I always feel like I'm getting a great deal.

  6. Old News by fm6 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    POTS vendors have always had this policy. It's stupid, but it's easy to circumvent. Since they let you publish the listing under any name you want, you make one up. When I had a landline, it was under "Gigo Hasp" (old IBM mainframe joke).

  7. Extortion by Sqreater · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you threaten to do something bad to someone, like give out their phone number, unless you are paid, you are engaging in extortion.

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  8. Re:Money for nothing ...... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I call bullshit on you.

    To make a phone book they have to collate a list of phone subscribers from the phone company. To exclude a subscriber, they simply don't turn over that subscriber's record to whoever makes the books. Or alternatively, the phone book company doesn't print the names of people who have the privacy bit set on their record. How can it possibly be so difficult?

    How can it cost $5/month to skip over somebody's name?

    What legal issues are there that would justify the same cost?

    Since you're so smart maybe you can tell us exactly why.

  9. Re:Money for nothing ...... by PT_1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    $60 a year for doing what? Nothing? Surely marking a number as unlisted in the subscriber database is a once-off 30 activity of at most 5 minutes. So who's being paid $720 an hour for doing it?

    I doubt it's even a 5 minute job. I work for a large telco in Europe. If a customer over here asks for their number not to be printed, we have to honour that request and we're not allowed (by law) to charge a cent for doing so. The phone directory is based on a database, which is linked to our customer care software. If a customer asks for their number to be removed from the phone book, a customer care agent clicks the button on their screen and the database is updated overnight. Factoring in a staff member's time, overheads for running the call centre etc., a call like this costs on average the equivalent of just over $4. Charging $60 per year is outrageous.

  10. Re:Money for nothing ...... by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Informative

    I currently work for a phone company, and less than 2 years ago was part of the "number management" group.
    You're full of shit.
    Phone numbers are published by a 3rd party. Once a year we do a SQL dump of our existing customers and send that over. That's how the number gets published. Our billing system has a flag: nonpublish and it's y/n

    The SQL statement involved is so fucking trivial it's ridiculous. There is NO reason at all to charge for this based on the difficulty of excluding you.