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Anonymous Claims To Have Hacked Sony PSN Again

hypnosec writes "Anonymous has claimed a new attack on Sony's PlayStation Network, and this time around it seems they have information from nearly 10 million user accounts. As a proof of the hack they dumped more than 3000 credentials online in the form of a pastebin post. The notorious hacktivist group is claiming that the entire set of hacked credentials contains over 10 million PSN accounts and that the file is of around 50GB." Update: 08/16 13:12 GMT by S : Sony has denied this claim.

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  1. Screw you, anonymous! by Soluzar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those assholes really need to think about who they are hurting with this crap. It is the users, like me. I've got a substantial amount of PS3 games, both from PSN and retail. I just want to use them in peace without veing harassed by cyber-terrorists!

    1. Re:Screw you, anonymous! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's the thing about poor security, Anonymous isn't the only one that was able to access the credentials. Perhaps you should be wondering why Sony isn't storing your hashed password in a salted format -- it appears to be a SHA1 hash represented in base64. Who else had access to your information that didn't advertise it to the world, and for how long? That's where your concern needs to be.

    2. Re:Screw you, anonymous! by Xest · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sure, and I want to live my life without Sony lobbying governments to fuck up the internet, but thanks to people like you giving them money I can't.

      Besides, it's not as if Sony has a great track record of keeping your data safe so why do you keep putting it in their hands in the first place? Honestly, if a company can't notice 50gb of sensitive data flying out of it's network it has to have a pretty high degree of incompetence.

    3. Re:Screw you, anonymous! by Soluzar · · Score: 2

      It's not as though I can exactly take my data out of their hands without depriving myself of the things I already purchased, is it? I'm effectively stuck with Sony, and Anonymous aren't helping the situation for me. Sony aren't exactly my favourite company in the world, but I was already into them for a big chunk of change before any of this idiotic nonsense by anonymous ever started or had reason to.

    4. Re:Screw you, anonymous! by Xest · · Score: 2

      I guess it depends what country you are in. In the UK I think the repeated displays of ineptitude by Sony in holding your data secure would be grounds enough to be able to cancel your account and demand a refund for any content you would hence no longer have access to. The small claims court here is quite effective at dealing with those sorts of cases and the time/cost for using it is pretty low (£20 IIRC which you can claim back if you win). Many other countries have a similar thing.

    5. Re:Screw you, anonymous! by Caerdwyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Thanking Anonymous for stealing my credit card info to demonstrate Sony's/Stratfor's/whatever's poor IT practices is akin to thanking an arsonist for burning down my house to demonstrate that it's flammable.

      There's not a shred of morality or good intention in Anonymous. None. They're vandals and thieves who never got over resenting authority figures when they were 13. Having the ability to run Metasploit against a video game host doesn't change the basic mindset.

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    6. Re:Screw you, anonymous! by Soluzar · · Score: 2

      I don't pay Sony anything for the safety of my data. Not a single unit of negotiable currency. I pay them for products I've purchased. That aside, yes I do actually blame the people doing the stealing rather than those who were stolen from. Funny that.

    7. Re:Screw you, anonymous! by savuporo · · Score: 2

      You still dont get it. Anonymous didnt post your details online, Sony did. Or more precisely, you gave them to Sony and Sony is careless with them.

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    8. Re:Screw you, anonymous! by scot4875 · · Score: 2

      I'm effectively stuck with Sony

      And who's fault is that? It's not like Sony was still a paragon of virtue and responsibility when the PS3 came out.

      You either already knew what you were getting into and didn't care, or you were ignorant if who you were dealing with. In either case, you've got nobody to blame but yourself.

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  2. Do we need to draw attention to this on Slashdot? by ctheme · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even if this is true, and PSN was compromised, what's the point? This benefits no good cause, and Sony isn't even the one being exposed here -- its users are.

    Anonymous is repeating the mistakes of Cablegate; releasing private information of parties who didn't ask to be involved. That's bullying, not hacktivism.

  3. Whoops! by phrackwulf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sonic is really going to have to hurry to get all those rings back! I hate this level!

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  4. Fail. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Proven false.

    * the document of leaked data linked to in the Twitter account appears to be identical to one posted on the Internet back in March.
    * Anonymous has deleted the Tweet claiming that it hacked the PSN.
    * Direct statement from Sony: "We’ve confirmed that the recent claim that PlayStation Network was illegally hacked and that customer passwords and email addresses were accessed is completely false."

  5. Sony's says this is fake by deadbeefcafe · · Score: 5, Informative
    http://www.videogamer.com/news/psn_hack_claims_are_false_says_sony.html

    Last night someone claiming to be a member of Anonymous posted what was alleged to be information obtained from 50GB of compromised PSN data, but it turned out the data was the same as that released last year when PSN was hacked. "We've confirmed that the recent claim that PlayStation Network was illegally hacked and that customer passwords and email addresses were accessed is completely false," assured Sony in a statement.

  6. Pavlovian Response by frinsore · · Score: 3, Funny

    The last time that this happened Sony gave me two free games. Now that it appears to have happened again my initial thoughts are regarding more free games. Somehow I don't think that this response is intentional on Sony's part.

  7. Re:Sweden? by OzPeter · · Score: 2

    Seems like all the email adresses are for Swedes. Wonder what they've got against Swedes.

    I dunno .. maybe because of that little thing between Julian, the UK, Sweden and Ecuador?

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  8. Re:Why do people still use Sony by Vanderhoth · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't think there's enough space to list everything here.

    Off the top of my head we can start with rootkit CDs, locking users out of their PSN accounts and denying them products they've already paid for, removal of the Other OS and poor security.

  9. Probably not true.. Sony has best security by rgbrenner · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't imagine this is true.. Sony has always been on the cutting-edge of security tech. I mean this is the company that designed the text-based CAPTCHA:
    http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/jsp/forms/generateCaptcha.jsp

    Right click is disabled so it's impossible to crack.

  10. Cyber-terrorists? by neoshroom · · Score: 2

    Is the intent of anonymous' actions really to inspire fear? Have we gotten to the point now where we accuse anything that inconveniences us as an act of terrorism?

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    1. Re:Cyber-terrorists? by Soluzar · · Score: 2

      Honestly? I'm not really dissatisfied with what I've bought from Sony. I'm a little dissatisfied with some of their business choices, but the games I've bought are fine thanks. I happen to actually like them. I didn't do anything wrong by buying them, no matter what you and those like you want to claim.

      If I'm deprived of them by any illegal action of Anonymous, then I expect to get them back at some future time. If you actually believe in what you wrote in your final paragraph, you're by far a bigger fool than I.

      Get off the high horse. I bought products and services. People do that. Anonymous are just being out-and-out criminals, hope all of them get arrested and sent to PITA prison.

  11. Re:Why do people still use Sony by andydread · · Score: 5, Informative

    erm.. how about installing rootkits on people's computers disabling their CD drives in the name of "stopping piracy" then having the arrogance to claim that "people shouldn't worry about it, most of them commoners don't even know what a rootkit is so why all the fuss?" How about bankroling some of the most Draconian censorship laws for the Internet? PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, DMCA, PROTECT-IP all bankrolled and lobbied for by Sony and friends. Not to mention their relentless attempts to proprietize media formats. But wait... there's more! They sell you a device then remove features that you paid for after the fact then changed their EULA so that if you cannot sue them when they screw up. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Sony used to be a good company when they only made hardware. The day Sony got into the content business is the day Sony went sour.

  12. Re:Why do people still use Sony by Anrego · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Depends on which people you are talking about.

    The public at large doesn't give a shit about this kind of thing, which isn't really all that unreasonable. The slashdot crowd is very privacy/security conscious.. the general publis is not. Lest we forget when the network was hacked the first time around, the biggest, loudest complaint was not that CC info was leaked, along with personal details, but that the network was down and people couldn’t play the games they paid for.

    Even the rootkit thing. Again, the biggest reaction from the general public, even with all the news coverage, was “well that was naughty of them..”.

    Almost all companies are evil. Sony happens to be evil in a way that is perceived as particularly bad by the Slashdot community, but perceived as status quo by the general public.

    And of course, even if everyone that even remembers the rootkit thing stopped using Sony for the rest of their life and recommended to all their friends that they do the same, wouldn't make a dent in the profit statements. Which means they don't care about us either!

  13. So, the headline ought to be by JavaBear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Someone claiming to be from Anonymous claims to have hacked PSN."

    1. Re:So, the headline ought to be by deadbeefcafe · · Score: 2

      I hear headlines are better with a question mark. How about: "Has Sony's PSN been hacked again?"

  14. Re:Why do people still use Sony by Stan92057 · · Score: 2

    I use Sony because i love gaming and Sony makes great machines and great games are made for Sony. I don't store any banking info for anywhere i have bought stuff on the internet because no one can be trusted. So even if they do get into my account there's nothing there to steal. No internet business can be trusted none

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  15. Wow... you are dumb by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2

    Finding holes in a fishing net is a saying, meaning it isn't any kind of challenge. Like finding freckles on a redhead.

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  16. Re:Why do people still use Sony by Caerdwyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So to punish Sony for hurting their customers, Anonymous hurts Sony customers. But Anonymous is stealing credit card info for YOUR benefit!

    Good going, guys. Way to take the moral high road and to convince the public to support you. What's next, scrambling blood types in breached medical records databases to teach insurance companies a lesson with dead patients, so you can portray yourselves as Robin Hoods with a pile of bodies?

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  17. Re:Why do people still use Sony by CodeHxr · · Score: 2

    ...But Anonymous is stealing credit card info for YOUR benefit!...

    Where does TFA state that? Anonymous didn't mention anything about credit card info that I was able to see. Maybe its been modified in the time between when you read TFA and when I read TFA. Oh... wait...

  18. Sony claims the 'hack' is fake... by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 3, Informative
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  19. Re:Why do people still use Sony by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

    The last hack... that resulted in us finding out they basically had no security at all.
    The Rootkit DRM
    Price fixing of CDs
    Everything SOE (their subsidiary) has done since they bought Verrant has been pretty evil.

  20. Re:Why do people still use Sony by gman003 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The public at large doesn't give a shit about this kind of thing, which isn't really all that unreasonable. ... Lest we forget when the network was hacked the first time around, the biggest, loudest complaint was not that CC info was leaked, along with personal details, but that the network was down and people couldn’t play the games they paid for.

    Indeed. I made the mistake of answering "because Sony is evil and deserves it" to a comment "Why?" on the Kotaku forums.

    That started off a rather nasty flamewar, but most of the counter-arguments boiled down to:
    1) Accusing me of being an XBox fanboy (which apparently invalidates your opinions). They also often said that hackers must also be Microsoft fanboys, as Microsoft never gets hacked and they're "just as evil" as Sony.
    2) Accusing me of being a troll ("obvious troll is obvious" was said at least once without a trace of irony)
    3) Saying that the only people being hurt are Sony's customers, not Sony themselves (somehow not realizing the implications - if customers keep getting attacked, they aren't likely to continue being customers)
    4) Saying that nobody ever used Linux on the PS3 and that Sony was 100% justified in removing it

    And in one memorable case, bringing up Hitler, trying to minimize Sony's "evilness" by comparing it to that.

    So no, none of "the general public" consider anything Sony does to be evil. They could probably kill a few people and people would care more about whether they can play their Final Fantasy XIII-2 DLC or not.

  21. Re:Why do people still use Sony by Vanderhoth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm sorry, where was I defending Anonymous?

    1) I was stating several events where Sony had done something "Evil". Don't confuse disdain for Sony as approving of Anonymous actions.
    2) I have a PS3, although I haven't used it since the Other OS fiasco, I'm affected by this.
    3) No where has anyone said Anonymous has credit card info, there's a difference between Credentials and Credit Card info

  22. Re:For the same reason people keep using Linux? by Enderandrew · · Score: 2

    The OS (and kernel) weren't to blame in most of those cases. Web servers on any OS can be insecure if they allow SQL injection or cross-site scripting attacks. Putting bad code on a web server doesn't mean the OS is inherently insecure.

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  23. Re:Why do people still use Sony by repvik · · Score: 4, Informative

    There was no hack. This is the same credentials list, posted in march: http://pastebin.com/hhU8Q9di

  24. Re:Why do people still use Sony by MikeBabcock · · Score: 2

    You know that until recently, Sony Music (who makes those CDs) has almost nothing to do with SCE* which distributes the PS3, right?

    Also, the Playstation allows ripping of music from CD and then transferring it to a USB device without hassle -- obviously not the same attitude as Sony Music, but keep the blinders on if you want.

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