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metrix007 writes "I am a recent immigrant to the U.S. I am used to going to countries and paying a small amount, say, $30, for a simcard and using it with my unlocked phone. I can't seem to do that in the U.S., where the only options seem to be to buy a phone and buy minutes as I need them such as with Tracfone, or a contract where I pay an amount per month to pay off a phone and a certain amount of minutes. I have a Google Nexus One, which is better than any phone offered on the basic plans from all the cell providers. Is there any way I can use it as a cell phone in the U.S. for about $30-$50/month? It seems a shame to waste it and have to pay for a lesser phone."

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  1. SimpleMobile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Simple Mobile. Enough said.

    1. Re:SimpleMobile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Agree. Simple Mobile's whole business model is SIM card only, bring your own phone, pre-pay, no contracts. $40/month gets you unlimited talk, text and non-tetherable 3G data. For another $20/month you can get unlimited non-tetherable 4G data instead. (They have separate data-only limited plans that do allow tethering, but they're not necessarily the best value for plans of that type.) The quoted price is the price you actually pay, no taxes or mystery fees tacked on. Truly simple, no nonsense. http;//mysimplemobile.com.

    2. Re:SimpleMobile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      T-Mobile has some good planless options too - especially if you bring your own phone.

    3. Re:SimpleMobile by characterZer0 · · Score: 2

      Check the coverage first. If you venture outside of cities, T-Mobile's coverage is lacking.

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    4. Re:SimpleMobile by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      I currently have the T-Mobile Prepay $30/month plan for my wife (1500 minutes or texts, very little data) and the other $30/month plan for myself (100 minutes with 5GB "4G" Data, unlimited texts). I usually go over by about 100 minutes which costs me $10. I'm next to a landline all day at work and still have a landline at home (for overseas calls) so I don't really need many mobile minutes.

      Boost has the best deal I could find, with plans that go down to $35 for unlimited... but bring-your-own can be quite difficult there.

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    5. Re:SimpleMobile by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 2

      They've actually dropped the $60/month unlimited plan down to $50 recently.

    6. Re:SimpleMobile by jbolden · · Score: 2

      http://www.pagepluscellular.com/ they use the Verizon network. No Sim cards (since they are CDMA ) but the same idea.
      Very good reviews for going 3rd party (same price) for pageplus via: http://www.kittywireless.com/

  2. *crickets chirping* by stillnotelf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I love how long this post has gone without replies (25 minutes, unless there's some sort of database lag I don't see). I guess that's a damning indictment of the US telecom industry and their pricing practices...

    1. Re:*crickets chirping* by jmorris42 · · Score: 2

      Then I really don't want to know how you manage that feat. I have managed to go from excellent karma to terrible in one thread but I have never had a post deleted. Ever. I thought there was exactly one incident that resulted in an outright deletion here, due to the Co$ so even if your GNAA trolling/whatever is being deleted it would be notable.

      To bad you are just an AC, otherwise I'd ask if managing to get a post deleted unlocks an achievement. I know an epic karma burn doesn't. :)

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    2. Re:*crickets chirping* by jo_ham · · Score: 2

      Mod parent up.

      Slashdot's entire raison d'etre was that post content belonged to the people who posted it and they would never delete a post - it might be moderated down to -1, but it will always be accessible if you want to view it.

      The only case I can remember as noted where this was broken was in the face of continued legal attacks from scientology to the point where it simply made more sense to "break" the policy by changing (not deleting) the post in question with a string of anti-Co$ links.

      If the AC has any actual proof of moderators deleting posts then I'd be interested to see it.

  3. t-mobile by datapharmer · · Score: 5, Informative

    get the online/walmart $35 plan which has unlimited data or pay by the minute at 10 cents a minute if you don't use it much. You can also get unlimited text/data/voice on at&t or t-mobile through net10 for $45/month - check their website as the deal is online only. tell it you are using an at&t locked phone if you want at&t otherwise they send t-mobile by default

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    1. Re:t-mobile by fragMasterFlash · · Score: 2, Informative

      For those of us who don't live way out in the boondocks T-Mobile service is on par with every other carrier.

    2. Re:t-mobile by guises · · Score: 2

      This, obviously, depends on where you are. I have a Nexus One, with T-Mobile, and have no trouble whatsoever. I use the pay-as-you-go plan, incidentally - I get no data, but since I don't use it all that much it is by far the cheapest option. Way less than the $30-$50/month that the original poster was asking for.

    3. Re:t-mobile by Chris+Grundy · · Score: 2

      I agree, T-mobile is the way to go As a foreigner who had the chance to live in Seattle for 2 years, I faced a similar situation, and found out that while AT&T wouldn't offer any soltions, T-Mobile was a lot more friendly with international travelers.

    4. Re:t-mobile by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess the second largest city in my state with 540,000 people is the "boondocks" as tmobile is utter crap here.

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    5. Re:t-mobile by khr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No kidding... My wife just got T-Mobile last weekend for her unlocked cell phone. As we live in the boondocks of midtown west Manhattan, it's pretty much useless... There's no signal in our apartment or many other places around.

      In fact, the guy at the T-Mobile store in the boondocks, across 14th Street from Union Square didn't get a signal in the store after we paid for it. I joked about what a great sign that was, but he said it was probably because it wasn't fully activated yet. Turns out it was probably just bad service from them.

    6. Re:t-mobile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Elitism: it takes many forms.

    7. Re:t-mobile by drummerboybac · · Score: 4, Informative

      540k people city *is* the boondocks. Sorry. If your city doesn't crack a million it's not even in the top 50 cities

      Is Boston then a boondocks city? It has 625,087 people as of 2011. How about San Francisco or San Jose? You are way off base that if a city doesnt crack a million its not in the top 50, only 9 cities actually crack a million, a city with 540k would be #33

    8. Re:t-mobile by hazydave · · Score: 3, Informative

      That is correct ... T-Mo currently does voice and 2G at 1900MHz (they don't have an 850MHz slot), and 1700/2100MHz for 3G/HSPA/etc.

      That may be changing, though. They're supposedly planning to phase out 2G entirely, move 3G/HSPA to the 1900MHz band (and ... 2100MHz? There's not enough bandwidth at 1900MHz for a full 3G data connection), and then start up LTE at 1700MHz. This follows their deal with AT&T... after the merger failed to pass regulators, AT&T was required to pay T-Mobile a huge pile of cash. Much of that's being paid in AWS spectrum formerly owned by AT&T. Presumably, T-Mobile's getting enough to launch a viable LTE service at 1700MHz... I have not seen any fine detail on this yet.

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    9. Re:t-mobile by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I bet that he is referring to metro area, and you are looking at population inside city limits.

      500,000 is smallish for a metro area, but big for a US city.

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    10. Re:t-mobile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      In Germany, Deutsche Telekom was one of the first to market with a mobile service, which they named T-Mobile, so they have excellent coverage and commensurate high prices. In America, they tried to get their foot in the door by buying out a small carrier named VoiceStream in the late nineties, well after the current major players were established.

      Verizon Wireless is the one with the best coverage and highest prices in the US; they were formed after a series of mergers in the mid-nineties. (They used to just cram the names together before they invented the word "Verizon", but it started to get ridiculous. I remember in the northeast, for a while they ended up with the really awkward name "Bell Atlantic NYNEX Mobile", after they gobbled up AirTouch they decided they couldn't just keep adding words like that). AT&T Mobility is the second biggest, they used to be called Cingular Wireless and before that they were called AT&T Wireless, because the owners couldn't decide if the AT&T brand was good or bad, so they spent billions on advertising switching back and forth. Sprint and Nextel were two unsustainably small players until they merged and became third largest; they're technically "Sprint Nextel" now but they've been downplaying that second word for years.

      Anyway, the two big ones try to compete on coverage area while the two small ones generally compete on price.

    11. Re:t-mobile by Antarius · · Score: 2

      Wow... I'm actually in the boondocks of South Australia. Population is 1,500, the nearest major city is a population of 15,000.

      I can see two shiny 3G towers from my bedroom window. (Telstra and OpenNetwork (Optus/Vodafone etc))

      If mobile carriers there don't think that a city with 500k population doesn't warrant a tower or two, then I'm afraid there's no hope for your telco industry.

    12. Re:t-mobile by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you are using Android, turn on Settings->Wireless and network->Mobile network settings->Data roaming.

      Not sure why this is unchecked by default. T-Mobile is unusable even on Long Island without it.

      Because data roaming can be expensive? It's off by default so people don't go overseas and suddenly come home to a $2000 phone bill because their phone was happily checking their email inbox. (Roaming data rates are around 5 cents per kB. A SI kB, not a kiB! Or $50/MB)

      A movie can easily cost you $12K or more.

      That's why it's off by default - in case the phone accidentally goes into roaming mode (which can happen near the border), you won't run up a huge bill. Especially if T-mo is that bad and you end up roaming on another network - that other network can easily be one across the border with a particularly strong signal.

    13. Re:t-mobile by arth1 · · Score: 2

      The US doesn't have much in the way of regulations mandating coverage, so coverage is provided pro capita, and fuck anyone living, working or passing through areas with low population density. The phone companies don't provide a service here, they want maximum income and growth - profitability isn't good enough.

      Compare that to Europe, where most countries have regulations demanding a certain amount of geographical coverage. In countries both more and less densely populated than the US, and countries with more and less centralization.
      The big difference is regulation, which both ensures coverage, but also ensures competition between providers instead of dividing the areas between them in order to turn up prices.

      Thus most of Europe has better coverage at a fraction of the price, and especially so in countries you wouldn't think it possible, like Scandinavia.

  4. Straighttalk or T-Mobile. by aetherspoon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Those are pretty much your only options on the GSM front. T-Mob has a 30 USD/month plan for 100 minutes and unlimited text/data, but all of their other plans are more expensive than straighttalk for smartphones (probably featurephones as well).

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  5. I'm in the same boat, and solved this problem by Brad_McBad · · Score: 5, Informative

    Go to the T-Mobile web-store and buy a SIM activation kit for $1. When you receive it, follow the activation instructions on the web and when it asks you to choose your plan, select "Monthly 4G $30"

    * Unlimited internet*
    * Unlimited Text
    * 100 minutes talktime

    It's basically a prepay deal where the available balance will drop by $30 a month, so you just need to top-up once a month, and make sure you have enough credit to cover any calls you make over the 100 minutes No ongoing contracts.

    Deal is web-only.

    *Unlimited internet means up to 5GB at HSPDA+ speeds.

  6. Re:*crickets chirping*(must be dark out) by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2, Funny

    Or an indictment of that damn sun, rising and setting, creating this silly "day" that we have to put up with, lots of people being "asleep" when this was posted.

  7. Re:Let me google this for you by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

    "T-Mobile or AT&T would be happy to sell no commitment service on your existing GSM phone."

    At full price. He asked for "CHEAP". and nothing AT&T is cheap.

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  8. Stuff that matters? by cheesethegreat · · Score: 2

    Sorry, but is this really a Ask Slashdot-worthy story? Better placed to ask on any of a dozen different travel forums, or to raise it in mobile phone forums (of which I hear the kids these days have quite a few).

    A quick LMGTFY link to help wrap up the conversation
     

  9. Frequency bands by Megane · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm surprised to see that nobody has mentioned frequency bands yet. It sounds like your phone is a European model. The problem is that different parts of the world use different frequencies for mobile phone service, and now even different technologies, too.

    From what I understand, pretty much all of Europe uses the GSM on the same frequency bands, so you can shuffle around SIM cards all day. But in the US, the frequencies are different from Europe. Even more of a problem is that GSM isn't dominant here. And now 3G and 4G are coming.

    So sure, you could stick in a SIM card, but can your phone even talk on the right frequencies? If it is a "quad band" phone, you may be in luck.

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    1. Re:Frequency bands by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3, Informative

      Many high-end international smartphones support AT&T's frequency bands.

      However - almost no devices support T-Mobiles 1700 MHz AWS band used for 3G service. The only ones I am aware of:
      Devices sold by T-Mobile USA
      HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus
      AT&T LTE devices that have had hacked radios installed. (Effectively, flashing T-Mobile firmware on an AT&T device that had identical hardware - examples are the AT&T Skyrocket and AT&T Galaxy Note.)

      However, plenty of international devices support AT&T's bands:
      Samsung Galaxy S2 (GT-I9100)
      Samsung Galaxy Note (GT-N7000)
      Samsung Galaxy S3 (GT-I9300)

      Probably plenty of others - I just happen to be most familiar with Samsungs.

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    2. Re:Frequency bands by King+InuYasha · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Google Nexus One sold in Europe is UMTS 900/AWS/2100 and GSM 850/900/1800/1900. It'll work fine on T-Mobile USA.

  10. check out this prepaid comparison chart by dcraw999 · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.cellguru.net/prepaid_compare.htm I think you'll find something you can use.

  11. Re:Try straighttalk by the+plant+doctor · · Score: 2

    I just bought one of their SIM cards with their $45 unli everything plan and popped it into my Nokia N9 when I was back in the States for a few weeks recently.

    Process was straightforward enough to set it up. I had decent coverage (AT&T, YMMV), unlimited everything was nice to have. Unsure what experience the previous poster had with their 3G speeds. I found it to be quite speedy. Able to watch YouTube, etc. as fast or faster than my connection at home in the Philippines.

    Overall, if I were living in the States, I'd surely go with this company as I like my phones unlocked and without the bloatware of the mobile companies.

    Even at that, I'll still use them when I return the US so that I have a mobile number where friends and family can reach me, while I'm there.

  12. Straight Talk by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 4, Informative

    T-Mobile's coverage is extremely limited, AND their 3G network is incompatible with most phones sold by them. The only non-TMo phones that work are the HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus and AT&T LTE devices running hacked radio firmware.

    Straight Talk provides MVNO service on both T-Mo or AT&T networks (you choose when you purchase the SIM).

    $15 for initial SIM purchase, $45/month thereafter. Plan includes unlimited voice and texts (with no apparent "stealth limits") - the one disadvantage is that they claim "unlimited" data but it's really 2GB.

    Personally I only use 500MB or so a month, so I'm going to them when my AT&T contract is up.

    ST's BYOD plans are a fairly recent development, not many people are aware of them.

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  13. HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Re by FeatherBoa · · Score: 3, Informative

    This really is a topic for mobile phone specific forum. My favourite is HowardForums. Here is a link to the US pre-payed/MVNO forums: http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/325-US-Prepaid-MVNO-Discussion

    There are lots of people there who know what's up with pre-paid and low-cost options.

  14. Re:Straight Talk by clonehappy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Avoid T-Mobile compatible phones for this service. Straight Talk is an MVNO and T-Mobile is a bunch of dicks. They won't let outside SMS messages thru. AT&T doesn't do that to MVNOs and SMS/MMS works fine.

    While you are correct about Straight Talk being a better overall value for a primary phone (and T-Mobile being a bunch of dicks), it is patently false that T-Mobile does not allow SMS from other carriers. They most certainly allow SMS/MMS to and from all major carriers foreign and domestic. They DO block non-mobile SMS short codes for obvious billing reasons (prepaid users racking up huge charges with 3rd parties that they don't have the funds to cover).

    The main reason NOT to get T-Mobile for any service in my opinion is because they censor their internet access unless you give them your (valid, verifiable) ID/SSN. That is a complete joke, their WebGuard blocks many perfectly acceptable sites that they deem "unacceptable to minors", whatever that means. Avoid them like the plague if you care about freedom, but their SMS/MMS system actually does work fine.

  15. Re:Straight Talk by chill · · Score: 2

    No, I am not incorrect. However, I might have been unclear. Let me try again.

    When using an MVNO like Straight Talk that resells using T-Mobile's network, T-Mobile *does not allow non-network text messages thru*.

    If you have standard T-Mobile service from TMO themselves, they do allow those messages.

    Using T-Mobile I can get text messages from Google, my bank, and friends on other networks like AT&T, Sprint and Verizon.

    Using a Straight Talk account with a T-Mobile SIM I can only receive text messages from other Straight Talk or T-Mobile sources.

    For example, using Bank of America's or Google's 2-factor authentication which sends a text message to your phone *does not work* using Straight Talk with a T-Mobile compatible SIM. It did work when I had service from T-Mobile directly. It worked again when I switched SIMs to an AT&T-compatible on Straight Talk.

    Interesting about those WebGuard service. I did not know that.

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  16. Try Prepaid by Foresto · · Score: 2

    There is a very useful table of prepaid plans over at Howard Forums. Since you have a GSM phone, you'll want one of the carriers that uses AT&T's or T-Mobile's network.

    I'm pretty happy with T-Mobile's $30 monthly prepaid plan, since I rarely need many talk minutes and I'm willing to live with 2G data speeds until they refarm their 1900 MHz spectrum to support 3G later this year.

  17. AT&T or T-Mobile by beegle · · Score: 2

    In the US, there are two major "flavors" of cellphone technology: GSM (also used in Europe) and CDMA (also used in some parts of Asia). There are four major carriers: Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile. There are also some (very good) regional carriers and a whole bunch of companies who re-sell from the big 4.

    CDMA providers (in the US, Verizon and Sprint are the two big ones) don't have removable SIM cards, and they're not particularly friendly or helpful about unlocking existing phones. Verizon has, by far, the best coverage for the more rural parts of the US. So, if you're going to be out in the sticks, you might be stuck buying a shitty Verizon phone.

    GSM providers WILL sell you a SIM, just like you're looking for, but they don't talk about it, and they don't offer any sort of commission to their store employees for it, so they won't offer it unless you ask. You walk in and buy a pre-paid SIM card, just like in Europe. The data prices suck if you don't get a data package (AT&T charges $2/MEGAbyte without a plan (or $2048/GB), but you can get $2/day unlimited data or pay $25 for a 1GB block of data), but you can get "Unlimited daily" plans for a few dollars per day. AT&T has better coverage than T-Mobile, but both are usually adequate in bigger cities. Neither's quite as good as Verizon in rural areas, but I've had better luck with AT&T than with T-Mobile.

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  18. Re:VirginMobile by ziggit · · Score: 2

    Virgin? Nope. I've seen rocky horror picture show thank you.