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First Evidence That Some Insects May Rely On Photosynthesis

tedlistens writes "The idea that aphids may use photosynthesis, as plants do, is based on the recent finding that the bugs are able to synthesize pigments called carotenoids. These pigments are common and necessary for many animals (for non-photosynthesis uses, like maintaining a healthy immune system), but the animal must consume them from outside sources. So far, only plants, algae, fungi, and bacteria are known to be able to synthesize carotenoids themselves, and, in all of those organisms, carotenoids are a key part of photosynthesis. While the co-author of the study, published in Nature's open-access journal Scientific Reports, cautions that more research is needed before we can determine if aphids are photosynthesizing like non-animals, it still could be one of the more remarkable findings in biology in recent memory, and may hold promise for helping address humanity's food crisis."

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  1. Another quality slashdot article on science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    It goes from "correlation equals causation" to " promise for helping address humanity's food crisis" in one paragraph!

    1. Re:Another quality slashdot article on science! by XiaoMing · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering how the peer-reviewed journal Nature ranks sixth overall in terms of impact factor, my guess is that there's more to the publication (and TFA) than your summary of it suggests.

    2. Re:Another quality slashdot article on science! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Bullshit. If you read that actual Nature paper, summarized:

      We report here that the capture of light energy in living aphids results in the photo induced electron transfer from excited chromophores to acceptor molecules. ...

      This appears as an archaic photosynthetic system consisting of photo-emitted electrons that are in fine funnelled into the mitochondrial reducing power in order to synthesize ATP molecules.

      The Nature paper doesn't talk about solving humanity's food crisis. Mother Board sort of half-assedly makes that claim by mentioning a food crisis and then saying that this doesn't solve it--yet. Nature wouldn't be that stupid to make such a dubious claim.

      The GPs criticism is valid.

    3. Re:Another quality slashdot article on science! by RDW · · Score: 4, Informative

      It isn't in Nature, it's in Scientific Reports, one of 'over 80' journals from the Nature Publishing Group

      http://www.nature.com/srep/about/index.html

      It's a new journal, with no impact factor yet.

  2. You mean... little green men may help? by c0lo · · Score: 4, Funny
    TFS

    and may hold promise for helping address humanity's food crisis

    I imagine the ultimate solution would be to literally transform part of the human population into vegetables... able to absorb CO2, feed themselves in the Sun light and be happy no matter what the govts do to exploit them (+ be actually grateful for being pissed on).
    Maybe, in the first stage, FauxNews can help?

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    1. Re:You mean... little green men may help? by fustakrakich · · Score: 2, Funny

      I imagine the ultimate solution would be to literally transform part of the human population into vegetables...

      Are you saying we should spike the water supply with LSD?

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    2. Re:You mean... little green men may help? by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 2

      Don't forget the other F-word, F*book. Then we'll have hordes of literal couch potatoes.

      A seriously evil application of this would be to design herds of cows that don't need to eat grass.

    3. Re:You mean... little green men may help? by roman_mir · · Score: 2

      I imagine the ultimate solution would be to literally transform part of the human population into vegetables

      This would be exciting for me, as a vegetarian I fully support this motion to transform the rest of the population into carrots.

  3. What food crisis? by NalosLayor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, seriously. There is no food crisis. As a species we have a food distribution problem, and a food wastage problem and they're rather shocking at that, but we really have no issue with feeding the population of earth today without resorting to eating genetically modified photosynthetic aphids. Now, a long term lack of motor fuel, is a problem, but aphids don't really solve that either. Mind you, this is scientifically interesting, but there really is no need to tie every technically interesting scientific discovery to the end of the world. Believe it or not, some of us like science for science's own sake.

    1. Re:What food crisis? by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      there really is no need to tie every technically interesting scientific discovery to the end of the world. Believe it or not, some of us like science for science's own sake.

      It's standard for writing non-fiction to tie your subject to something of wider importance. It's certainly done in scientific papers. Even people who like science for science's sake are interested in what the big picture may be. Very often, the big picture is totally different from the one that was expected, but it's still interesting.

    2. Re:What food crisis? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are too many people now

      No, there's plenty of room and we can feed them (to the extent that we don't put food into our gas tanks, anyhow).

      and we have no control over our own global population growth

      Education - it works every time it's tried. Parts of Europe are so 'successful' that their populations are shrinking. There are States that repress their people, but we'll get those dealt with one of these centuries.

      Arguing that there is currently no food crisis, but rather a distribution problem is specious.

      Or accurate, if you care to examine the data.

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    3. Re:What food crisis? by Troed · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Exactly.

      "According to the World Resources Institute, global per capita food production has been increasing substantially for the past several decades."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_security

    4. Re:What food crisis? by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      How are either of those possibilities not interesting?!?

    5. Re:What food crisis? by pspahn · · Score: 2

      "According to the World Resources Institute, global per capita food production has been increasing substantially for the past several decades."

      Unfortunately, so has the average waist size.

      I don't think most of the "increased food production" is ending up on the right plates.

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    6. Re:What food crisis? by darkfeline · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not entirely true (though I do agree with you mostly, honest!). Distribution is costly (a basic logistical problem), both in terms of time, money, and quality of food, and in some cases plainly impossible for the near future (If you ever wondered why food is so expensive in e.g. ski lodges, this is (part of) the reason). On-site production will always trump improved distribution where possible. Yes, we do have a food distribution problem, but we also have a food production problem as well.

    7. Re:What food crisis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is Malthusian nonsense. The problem is not that there's too many people; that's a first world way to blame the mismanagement of resources on third world countries.

    8. Re:What food crisis? by Troed · · Score: 3, Informative
    9. Re:What food crisis? by TimmyDee · · Score: 4, Informative

      I made that infographic you posted above (the one where you said there'd be plenty of room), and your claim isn't exactly true. You obviously didn't see my follow up infographic, showing that we'd all have to live lifestyles somewhat less resource intensive than the average Chinese person.

      Simply having enough space to cram people isn't everything.

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    10. Re:What food crisis? by Troed · · Score: 2

      This is only going to get worse.

      "Ever since Thomas Robert Malthus, doomsayers have tended to underestimate the power of innovation."

      http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/08/19/1536243/how-technology-might-avert-an-apocalypse

    11. Re:What food crisis? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 2

      I did not follow your link, so I do not know if this was pointed out in it or not. In the 1960s, the per capita caloric intake of developing nations was around 300-600 calories a day. In the early 2000s that had risen so that the per capita caloric intake throughout the developing world was around 2500 calories a day. That means that there is not a "food crisis". That does not mean that there are not still hungry people in the world. It just means that we have the means to feed them, we just fail to do so.

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  4. helping address humanity's food crisis. by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Humanity's food crisis is a political problem, not a technical one.

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  5. What about Vespa Orientalis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Really the first? Vespa Orientalis has been shown to harvest sunlight for energy. Or does that not strictly count as photosnthesis?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespa_orientalis

    1. Re:What about Vespa Orientalis? by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      I thought Vespas were Italian.

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    2. Re:What about Vespa Orientalis? by c0lo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Really the first? Vespa Orientalis has been shown to harvest sunlight for energy. Or does that not strictly count as photosnthesis? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespa_orientalis

      Maybe because the mechanism is still uncertain?

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  6. People synthesize Vitamin D using sunlight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's probably a type of photosynthesis - using sunlight to produce Vitamin D from cholesterol, which is a vital hormone that 80% of us are lacking.
    You know, sunlight's purpose is not to cause cancer and cholesterol is not there to clog your arteries, nature has a purpose for everything.

    1. Re:People synthesize Vitamin D using sunlight by c0lo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      nature has a purpose for everything.

      Stop anthropomorphizing nature: it hates when you do it!

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  7. Re:Coral Symbiosis by Guppy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Isn't this insect doing something like this coral symbiosis [wikipedia.org]?

    Before I popped open the article, I figured it was going to be another one of those symbiont cases, or at the most one of those kleptoplasty cases (where the organism integrates and uses ingested chloroplasts). Turns out it's much more interesting -- the aphid apparently has it's own carotenoid synthesis pathways, and (it is hypothesized) can use it to reduce NAD+ for the purposes of pumping protons to drive ATP synthesis.

    It's not a full photosynthesis pathway like plants have. They won't be able to get as much energy, nor can they fix CO2 to make organic substrates. But it is their own endogenous system that's at work (although parts of that system may have been obtained through horizontal gene transfer).

  8. Food crisis? by cripkd · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why can't something be interesting and considered a breakthrough in any field of science and research still be conducted without it having to solve any type of crisis?
    Especially when the connection to that crisis is made artificially in a summary, just to throw some glitter on a piece of scientific news?

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  9. Re:Fungi are not photosynthetic! by darkfeline · · Score: 2

    If we discovered how to produce energy from the absence of light (i.e., energy from nothing), every physicist in the world would kneel down and cry, while the rest of us rejoiced.

  10. Corals... hard and soft... by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Many coral and soft coral species do it as well -- some using symbionts, some directly -- and they are animals, not vegetable.

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  11. Old Man's War by DarthVain · · Score: 2

    I believe John Scalzi already had this idea in his book Old Man's War wereby soldier bodies were built to include a bit of photosynthesis, making the bodies a lovely light green colour.

    There may have been other science fiction that describes this, but that is one that came to mind recently.

    1. Re:Old Man's War by bar-agent · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There was a novella called "The Green Leopard Plague" that goes into the idea of humans that photosynthesize humans in more detail.

      Other posters have pointed out that we don't have a food production problem; we have a food distribution problem. The novel points out the main advantage of wide-spread photosynthesis: no dictator would be able to hold his people hostage through their food supply. There would no longer be any benefit to screwing with normal food distribution if a person could meet their base metabolic needs by sitting outside.

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