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Android Piracy Sites Seized By US Government

Dupple writes with news that the DOJ took a few Android app piracy sites offline. From the release: "Seizure orders have been executed against three website domain names engaged in the illegal distribution of copies of copyrighted Android cell phone apps, Assistant Attorney General Lanny A. Breuer of the Department of Justice's Criminal Division, U.S. Attorney Sally Quillian Yates of the Northern District of Georgia and Special Agent in Charge Brian D. Lamkin of the FBI's Atlanta Field Office announced today. The department said that this is the first time website domains involving cell phone app marketplaces have been seized. The seizures are the result of a comprehensive enforcement action taken to prevent the infringement of copyrighted mobile device apps. The operation was coordinated with international law enforcement, including Dutch and French law enforcement officials."

184 comments

  1. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    But there isn't an Android piracy problem! The fandroids said so!!! This is all just Apple FUD!!

    No, I'm not an iShiny faggot, either.

    1. Re:But... by Gaygirlie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But there isn't an Android piracy problem!

      It depends on how one defines "piracy problem," like e.g. at what point does piracy become a problem and when it isn't a problem, and who is it a problem to anyways? Is it a problem if there's over 1% piracy rate? If so then iOS, Android, BB, Windows, OSX, Linux, BeOS, DOS and so on would have a "piracy problem." Or is it a problem only when popular things are being pirated? Atleast I don't see law enforcement ever going after pirates for spreading some niche product that only appeals to a small base, even if the piracy rates in that base were over 90%. Is piracy a problem to the users, is it a problem to developers who are actually still making nice profit even with 40% piracy rates, or is it a problem to publishers who cry foul even about a single pirated copy even if they're raking in cash like madmen, all just because they want every single last penny in their pockets? I don't see users complaining about piracy, and I see plenty of developers who simply ignore piracy as long as they're generating profit, I only see these money-hungry entities complaining.

      Even if we just focus on the fact that there's piracy on Android-platform we have to look at its surroundings: Android is very similar to e.g. Windows in terms of end-user-oriented openness, allowing one to install and remove software freely. Only Android, however, is getting flak for piracy at the moment, piracy on PCs is being ignored. Why? Well, because people like OP like to jump on whatever happens to be the new trend, because developers these days are trained to believe that any amount of piracy whatsoever is a problem, and because, well, most Android-apps are crappy, shallow pieces of sh*t and cost mere pennies -- the general populace won't see the apps worth much if even the developers themselves don't, therefore said populace won't see it as a loss for the developer if they just pirate the things instead. Combine said arbitrary worthlessness with an open platform and it's no wonder piracy exists.

      All that said the developers and publishers themselves are to blame for their problems: make your apps worth not pirating, and either develop only for walled-garden platforms or accept piracy as a fact of life and ignore it as long as you're still generating profits.

      The fandroids said so!!! This is all just Apple FUD!!

      No, I'm not an iShiny faggot, either.

      To be honest, your sexual orientation is not relevant here nor does it reflect on your intellect in any way or form. The use of terms like "fandroids," "iShiny," and "faggot" along with multiple exclamation marks and the lack of any kind of argument whatsoever does, however. I do realize your comment was an attempt at trolling Slashdot-users and you were hoping for some enraged comments which is why I so much enjoy responding to these kinds of attempts with calm, coherent comments -- think of it as reverse trolling, if you will.

    2. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But there isn't an Android piracy problem! The fandroids said so!!! This is all just Apple FUD!!

      No, I'm not an iShiny faggot, either.

      That's because it wasn't a problem until the DOJ stuck their nose into someone else's business...

    3. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not piracy, it's just open.

    4. Re:But... by poetmatt · · Score: 2

      the only reason people pirate on android is because we have shitty developers like the guy who decries piracy as the reason for him making a shitty app.

      see how this circle works?

      make apps that aren't openly hostile to your customers and/or basically stupid, and guess what? people are more than happy to pay for them, especially if they are well made.

    5. Re:But... by Orga · · Score: 1

      Or perhaps when a company like Sony comes and forces google to remove an app from their store because it will compete with a future product they're planning on launching.

    6. Re:But... by paulpach · · Score: 2

      I am an indi developer. I worked for 1 1/2 years to create my game Block Story

      I can see my game all over pirate sites, and their download count completely eclipse my sales. I could be working full time on my game by now if only 1/3 of those users legally purchased the game.

      Every day I send takedown notices to multiple sites, which are a problem, because I have to disclose where I live in those notices. Not exactly something I enjoy doing, and I waste time doing this instead of developing more. Only to see the app being reposted in a few hours.

      Moreover, my game competes to some extent to Minecraft PE, and I have a lot of reviews saying: don't by this, go get Minecraft PE for free instead at . So am having to compete with pirate copies of other games as well as my own game.

      So before you say this is not a big deal, try living off of an android app. IT IS A BIG DEAL.

    7. Re:But... by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      make your apps worth not pirating

      so basically, your logic is that if developers make something crappy, then they deserve to have it stolen?

    8. Re:But... by Gaygirlie · · Score: 1

      Every day I send takedown notices to multiple sites, which are a problem, because I have to disclose where I live in those notices. Not exactly something I enjoy doing, and I waste time doing this instead of developing more.

      Yes, and? You're doing exactly what I told you not to do: you're wasting your time trying to prevent something that you simply CANNOT prevent. Either ignore piracy and just focus on developing your stuff or start developing for something else. Sending takedown notices and using your time on that is definitely not a productive way of using it. Do you believe that piracy of your game will somehow magically stop if you just send enough notices, or that it somehow discourages pirates? Or hell, do you believe that sending those notices is somehow positive marketing for the game? No? Well, gee!

    9. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, aside from the fact nothing is actually being stolen, no - hes saying make the bang more worth the buck -> less piracy, which may or may not be true but is nothig like the conclusion you jumped to.

    10. Re:But... by Gaygirlie · · Score: 1

      so basically, your logic is that if developers make something crappy, then they deserve to have it stolen?

      Please, do point to where I said anything like that, because I cannot find such; I was talking about how people generally view shallow/crappy stuff worthless, especially if they're already priced at pennies, so the developers of such are themselves contributing to the issue. By making the apps/games/whatnot seem actually worth some money people would feel more inclined to actually pay for them. That is not the same thing as me trying to defend piracy or saying the devs "deserve" such.

    11. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, but if you make something for a known piracy facilitation tool like Android you deserve to have it stolen. what's next somebody goint to cry that their commercial bittorrent client is getting torrented? give me a fucking break.

    12. Re:But... by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      All that said the developers and publishers themselves are to blame for their problems: make your apps worth not pirating, and either develop only for walled-garden platforms or accept piracy as a fact of life and ignore it as long as you're still generating profits.

    13. Re:But... by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      if you don't believe that making copies of paid software and installing them and using them our your device without paying isn't stealing, then why are you even participating in this conversation?

    14. Re:But... by toriver · · Score: 1

      The moment you used the word "copies" you implicitly denied is is stealing. Stealing is taking something from someone - note the "from" part as in they no longer have it - and while unlicensed copying is also illegal, it is not theft any more than it is rape (another illegal act).

    15. Re:But... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      I could be working full time on my game by now if only 1/3 of those users legally purchased the game.

      I could be on a space tourist trip to Mars if even 10% of those people were prepared to spend 1c on an any Android software whatsoever. You live in cloud cuckoo land.

      --
      Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
    16. Re:But... by farble1670 · · Score: 0

      The moment you used the word "copies" you implicitly denied is is stealing

      yes, it looks like your superior intellect destroyed my argument. i've learned an important lesson about not engaging with hyper-geniuses.

    17. Re:But... by RMingin · · Score: 1

      Piracy is a problem. Sending DMCA notices, while a decent band-aid, is not a solution. Also, piracy exists, and widely, on Windows Phone, iPhone, and every other device.

      I don't know about you, but I rarely give money to people who fight me, threaten me, or give me ultimatums. I routinely give money to people who treat me like a decent human being. I'm the success story Steam has been looking for. In the mid to late nineties, and the early 2000s, I pirated everything. If I could pirate it, and I used the software, I did. Later, I got a title or two via Steam, and kept the client installed to access them. Then I started noticing all the sales on games, and I started picking the low-hanging fruit. These days, nearly 100% of my gaming library is legitimate, paid-for, and largely unused (at any given point in time, anyways). I'm OK with that.

      Do you see it yet? Threats, ostracism, and guilt didn't work. A nice gentle price curve and some up-front honesty got my wallet open.

      Also, if you think you should be making a living from one game, you might be a little off. The problem isn't piracy, it's unrealistic expectations of return.

      --
      The preceding comment is my own, and in no way construes an opinon of the Emperor of Mankind.
    18. Re:But... by paulpach · · Score: 1

      WTF are you talking about? What Apple hate? I have been working for the past month to port to IPhone.

      The only reason I did not do it before is that I had to pay out of my pocket around $7000 in hardware and software in order to do it.

    19. Re:But... by paulpach · · Score: 1

      Most of our customers disagree with your assessment of "shitty app" given the fact that we score 4.4/5 in google play. Go ahead, read the reviews, or god forbid try the free version (not even ads), before jumping to the default conclusion that the app is shitty because I complain about piracy.

      Also, pick whatever you consider to be the best app for android, And I will show you 5-10 sites where it is being pirated, so your argument does not hold any water. If anything, the higher the quality of the app, the more popular it is and the more likely it is to show up in pirate sites.

    20. Re:But... by Agent0013 · · Score: 1

      Every day I send takedown notices to multiple sites, which are a problem, because I have to disclose where I live in those notices. Not exactly something I enjoy doing, and I waste time doing this instead of developing more.

      Yes, and? You're doing exactly what I told you not to do: you're wasting your time trying to prevent something that you simply CANNOT prevent. Either ignore piracy and just focus on developing your stuff or start developing for something else. Sending takedown notices and using your time on that is definitely not a productive way of using it. Do you believe that piracy of your game will somehow magically stop if you just send enough notices, or that it somehow discourages pirates? Or hell, do you believe that sending those notices is somehow positive marketing for the game? No? Well, gee!

      I completely agree. I just started developing for Android a little over a year ago. Just my own project in my spare time, but it is fun and I like getting all the comments on how much people enjoy my game. I was actually thrilled to find my game (Einstein's Logic) on an Android pirate site. I have never had anything pirated before, so I felt like I finally hit the big time. I'm a real game developer now!!!

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      -- ssoorrrryy,, dduupplleexx sswwiittcchh oonn.. -Quote found on actual fortune cookie.
    21. Re:But... by paulpach · · Score: 1

      I could be on a space tourist trip to Mars if even 10% of those people were prepared to spend 1c on an any Android software whatsoever. You live in cloud cuckoo land.

      The expectation is actually quite realistic, given the fact that we have already reached top 20 paid game on amazon (just today, but changes by the hour), and we have not even hit apple store or pc yet.

    22. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it a good living your making being a victim of crime?

    23. Re:But... by erroneus · · Score: 1

      It's perfectly reasonable to expect to be paid when someone makes use of your work.

      It's perfectly unreasonable to expect everyone to agree with you.

      Some players in the game poke fun at pirates in a variety of ways. You could put pirate hats on all of the game characters if you detect a possibly illegal copy. You could put a "please, if you like this game, pay for it" message before the game starts with a check box that says "Check this box if you have already paid." and then never show it again.

      Show kindness and generosity to people and they will be more likely to return it. And if they don't, don't become bitter. They aren't your customers anyway... don't alienate or upset the customers you have today. If what you make is good, it will be paid for by many. That people will copy is just part of the game. If you can't handle it... if it gets under your skin... please give up now. I'm sorry, but you are not going to change humanity and fighting humanity will not achieve your goals. In the history of humanity, no one has ever defeated human nature completely and you aren't going to be the first. (And if you work at it, someone will make it their mission to defeat you.)

      Some people want to focus on the "losses" which can't ever be measured. The smart ones focus on the gains. Focus on your gains. Play with the price... up.. down... Play with the value of your work.... is it "good enough" or do you love the project enough to really put your polish on it? If you don't love it, why are you doing it in the first place?

      You have a right to be concerned that your work is being pirated, of course, but maybe not for the reasons you believe. Great games are often repackaged with malware... malware which will damage your reputation, and thus your future, more than any imaginary losses might. That should be reason enough to make sure your work is available and that payment should be voluntary.

    24. Re:But... by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1

      So you believe that stopping piracy is a realistic goal? Seriously?

      --
      Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
    25. Re:But... by paulpach · · Score: 1

      No. I believe living off of the game is realistic.

    26. Re:But... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      I think the bigger problem is that the government is wasting their time (and everyone's tax dollars) with this nonsense.

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      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
    27. Re:But... by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 1

      Mod Parent Up! Between Steam sales and the Humble Bundles, I've got a nice, cheap source of entertainment without pirating anything. Honestly, right now the biggest problem I run into is reminding myself that I've already got the virtual equivalent of a big stack of games I haven't played yet and I shouldn't make any more impulse Steam buys. (I usually grab the Humble Bundles regardless, because I like the idea of supporting charities and indie game devs.)

      Speaking of the Humble Bundle, if any of the Android devs that have complained about piracy are reading this, check into getting your game into the next Humble Bundle. In the time I'm writing this, it looks like the current bundle will tick over 87,200 sales with an average of $6.22 per copy. If we assume an even 12-way split between 2 charities, the developers of the 9 games listed, and the "Humble Bundle Tip", that's over $45,000 and there's still over 7 days remaining.

      (A quick check of http://humblebundle.com/ shows that it's selling slightly faster than I estimated - almost up to 87,300 by the time I finished posting)

      --
      Redundancy is good And also good.
    28. Re:But... by Alphadecay27 · · Score: 2
      So, you made a mobile knockoff (looks identical, has hell=nether, skeletons, dragon) of a hit game and you are now mad because you have to compete with the mobile release + pirated version of the original? Maybe you should have written an original game to start with? In the first sentence of the description on your website you say

      This is a game like Minecraft with an RPG spin

      Why would anyone looking for a mobile version of minecraft prefer your knockoff over the original?

      There is an entire team of developers making a living off of minecraft. The pocket edition alone is raking in money hand over fist and would easily support a full dev team on its own. It's interesting how you blame piracy of minecraft PE for loss of sales. It doesn't seem to be hurting the original authors at all. Minecraft also started on the PC which has about 10x the piracy rate of android and has raked in millions in sales before it was even released. I don't play minecraft myself, my kid does. I tried out a half dozen knockoff demos (I don't pirate) before the PE version came out, might have even tried yours. He wasn't interested in the slightest. "That's just a rip-off", he would say. I imagine that the majority of the people who pirate your game end up doing the same.

      If you want to make a living off a game, try doing something original. I don't think you are evil for doing a knockoff but even my 8 year old recognizes that it is pretty lame. It looks like you put in a lot of work trying to profit off of someone elses success. Now, you are mad that others also want things for free. You seem competent enough as a programmer. You should use the experience you've gained and create something of your own.

    29. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, I'm not an iShiny faggot, either.

      I guess that just makes you a regular old faggot.

    30. Re:But... by paulpach · · Score: 0

      Why would anyone looking for a mobile version of minecraft prefer your knockoff over the original?

      Very good question, and I am glad you asked. Here are some of the things we have that Minecraft PE does not:

      • * Infinite terrain even up and down (Minecraft PE has a tiny world of 256x256, not even desktop Minecraft has up and down)
      • * Floating islands, like in pandora
      • * Quests
      • * Leveling
      • * Skill points
      • * Staffs
      • * Guns
      • * Crafting (Minecraft PE only has Mattis)
      • * Moria (A world between earth and hell)
      • * Forgotten sky (A world up in the sky)
      • * 87 realistic mobs (Minecraft PE only has about 5 cubic ones)
      • * Colored lights
      • * Gear, amulets, like "My Precious" ( a powerful ring) or Flippers to swim faster.
      • * Torch (light around the player)
      • * Shields
      • * We update about every week, MCPE updates about every 3 months.
      • * Our game works great on ARM6 phones, MCPE requires ARM7

      We are about 1 or 2 years ahead of Minecraft PE at this point, and this gap is growing very fast.

      Also, notice that the original is not Minecraft as you seem to imply. The original is Infiniminer. Minecraft is "just a rip-off" of Infiniminer. So the same question applies: "Why would anyone looking for a pc version of Infiniminer prefer Minecraft over the original?" The answer is the same as for our game: because it is more fun.

      There is no feature that we share with Minecraft that Minecraft didn't copy from Infiniminer, so if you consider our game a rip-off, then you would have to consider Minecraft one too.

    31. Re:But... by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      Show kindness and generosity to people and they will be more likely to return it.

      simply not true; people, including myself have experimented with donate-ware. it simply doesn't work.

      i have a relatively popular (hundreds of thousands of downloads) android application. it's free and open source with no ads. i also have the exact same app published for a price of $1 and i make it clear to folks that the donate app and the free app are exactly the same so there's no catches.

      couldn't be more honest and generous than that i'd say. however, last year, i made about $30 donations.

    32. Re:But... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      I was not arguing that making a living off a half-way descent game was difficult. I was arguing that almost all the people who pirate it would NEVER pay for any game. Either they pirate it or they do without. They might pay if their income depended on it, but for a game, no! Income is limited. The supply of free games is not.

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      Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
    33. Re:But... by paulpach · · Score: 0

      It's interesting how you blame piracy of minecraft PE for loss of sales. It doesn't seem to be hurting the original authors at all.

      Really??? Minecraft PE is one of the most pirated games on Android. How do you know this is not hurting them? For all we know Mojang could be 10x bigger right now and developing 20 other games if it wasn't for piracy. Only Mojang (and possibly a Judge) can determine if they are being harmed or not by people stealing their software, being that they are the holders of the copyright.

    34. Re:But... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      If you're not 100% incorrect, then why did you make that comment?

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      Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
    35. Re:But... by N0Man74 · · Score: 2

      I can sympathize with your feelings, and I can completely understand your reaction. I've considered Android development also, and this concern has made me hesitant. However, I think that you overlooking some things and overestimating the impact (just as many publishers do).

      The simple truth is, the reason that so many people pirate your game is because they can. Trying to stop it from happening is like playing whack-a-mole. It will continue popping up elsewhere (or maybe even in the same place). You are far outnumbered.

      There are many pirates, many flavors of pirates, and many different motivations for piracy. But there is one thing that many will have in common... they probably wouldn't have bought your game anyway.

      I would guess the majority of pirates fall in these categories:

      • Digital Hoarders: Many pirates download and hoard as much data as they can get their hands on. They often download far more media than they could possibly ever use. There are pirates like this that could easily exceed their actual income in pirated content. If it makes you feel any better, not only could these types not been able to afford to pay for all the content they have, but they only ever use a fraction of it. Very likely not a loss.
      • Kids / Students (including College): They likely have a tight income and are looking for ways to make their money go further. If they couldn't pirate your app, they would probably be buying Ramen Noodles and Beer instead anyway. Probably not a loss.
      • Tourists: Casual Pirates that might just check things out because they can get them for free. They might try piracy just out of curiosity. These might have bought it if piracy wasn't an option, or might not have. It is hard to say (just like it is hard to say if they will buy it even after pirating it).
      • Cheap Asses: He might be able to afford it, but he's not paying anything if he doesn't have to... and if he has to, he will probably just go without. Probably not a loss.
      • Internationals: It might not seem like much in America, but both the costs and payment options could be prohibitive in some other countries. Probably not a loss.
      • Test Drivers: These types are willing to buy, but given how much crappy software is out there, and how often even good software can cause instability on some devices, they might just assume to pirate software and test it out a while before buying it. If they like it, and think they will continue using it, they may buy it. If the software is of poor quality, or it is something where the appeal will wear off quickly, they won't. Whether or not it is a loss probably depends on the quality of the software more than the person.
      • Curmudgeons: Maybe not old, but angry and bitter about being burned on software they've bought before. Now they say "screw it, I"ll just pirate the apps."

      Sure, it would be nice if 1/3 of pirates bought your software, but I think that is grossly overestimating how many pirates would have bought your app if piracy wasn't an option. I think that 1/10 would be overoptimistic. Additionally, reduced piracy also could mean reduced exposure.

      At least, that's how I see the issue...

      Though I do wish that more people felt more awareness of the fact that these apps take a lot of time and sacrifice to develop before pirating them.

    36. Re:But... by exomondo · · Score: 1

      The only reason I did not do it before is that I had to pay out of my pocket around $7000 in hardware and software in order to do it.

      Really? $7000? A Mac Mini + iPad + iPhone + Developer Program runs less than a 1/3 of that! Kudos on the game though, look forward to trying the iOS version.

    37. Re:But... by paulpach · · Score: 1

      I need Mac book pro for working because I am on the go a lot of the time, and a fast one because I compile 20 times a day. Between $2000-$3000

      I need Unity 3d professional for iphone and android which is about $4500.

      I need an ipad and iphone to test the app in them.

    38. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are obviously charging too much for your product, you arrogant twit. Otherwise people wouldn't pirate it.

    39. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I need Mac book pro for working because I am on the go a lot of the time, and a fast one because I compile 20 times a day. Between $2000-$3000

      whats wrong with an Air? you shouldnt be doing full rebuilds all the time so the core i5 in the Air is more than suitable.

      I need Unity 3d professional for iphone and android which is about $4500.

      you dont need the android version to develop for iOS and if you are porting an existing Android game then you must already have Pro+Android, the fact that you have added that ($3000) unneeded cost instead of just the $1500 iOS addition as well as a flawed requirement of needing a macbook pro seems like you are just trying to make this more cost-prohibitive than it actually is.

    40. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moreover, my game competes to some extent to Minecraft PE
      ------------
      Well, you are really lucky, that game industry does not have such harsh copyright rules as music industry, because you can shield yourself, that ideas can't be copyrighted, but to me similar graphics and design is the same as similar pattern of music and it is not possible to take some even similar tunes and add them to your song without consequences. I'm not pro-copyright oriented, as all the best products originally were based on someones idea. Maybe think about your game this way - that you are taking away from Minecraft pie, what would be logical step if they would be making mods with all that medieval theme though I see there many possible settings.

      I do not understand why everyone make such fuss about piracy. If people do like your game and they can't pay for some reason or just don't want to do that... threat them as multilevel marketing partners - they spread the word about your game for free(and very fast) and better than any advertisement company. They won't pay, but there will be many who will notice your game, enjoy it and give your bucks(which wouldn't happen even if you advertise it). And if you are an artist - do not criticize anyone - you'll unintentionally hurt feelings of someone who paid fo your game. Be patient and don't be greedy... current world market do not know national boundaries and it is huge and there will be more people who could use your game than using only your local market. Criminilazing players(and treating them all as pirates) is wrong direction.
      Make your game version, that is completelly free - add novelties for a price. Add something top-shelf or make subscription level, where people who has paid, receive access to all extras(I don't really like other extreme there - money milking, which doesn't make game enjoyable) and keep in mind, that there are enough people who will not want to pay for game, but gladly will give something back by doing community projects, like new maps, add-ons and so on only just because they are allowed to play. Money is not the main goal in life really.

      And I am really wondering what developers mean by protection... all gamers are enraged by protection how it is made on PC games - and that it has to depend on CD or DVD. For a 60 bucks, it doesn't cost much to add some USB dongles with copy protection for each game and not to rely on CD/DVD durability...
      I'm not really in favour of copy protection for games - properly done DRM will take some considerable memory and processor resources and will slow down all system(not only game) and the way how it is done, this means virtual tables are loaded with OS kernell and stays in memory even when game is not launched... which seems to be Starforce and likes case.
      There are enough games, that has single player free, but multiplayer paid, where it is easier to check who is who, because all multiplayer gaming and real gaming experience against real players will be through internet anyway. So we are slowly coming to that game was not the product players are paying - it is service.

    41. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Works for Jessie Jackson.

    42. Re:But... by poetmatt · · Score: 1

      google play ratings are as reliable as my own imagination is as an authoritative source. Most people will rate an app as follows, and you can replace "game" with "app" if needed.

      "this game is awesome!" 5 stars
      "this game is awesome!" 1 star
      "this game crashes my phone! minus one star until it's fixed!" 4 stars
      "this game crashes my phone!" 1 star
      "this game crashes my phone!" 5 stars.

      Ratings on google play are not only gamed (and yes, we know when they're being gamed), but have probably the most useless ratings of any system I've ever seen implemented. This is like saying "look at my yelp rating! look at my metacritic professional rating" while failing to acknowledge the hilariousness of said scores.

      My argument does hold water, you're just too ignorant to accept that piracy has NOTHING to do with how you define your own quality. Your customers will pirate your app if they are not given the features they want in the app, which is reflective of that the quality of the app is not where they want it to be. But yes, please grandstand like you are an amazing app developer! we really care! (not really). If 95% are pirating, the question should be: How can I support those underwhelmed fans? Not: how do I fight it/piracy is bad. Fighting piracy does nothing for piracy rates, and to believe otherwise is to delude yourself. This has been covered a million times showing that piracy is beneficial .

      In short, there is absolutely no valid argument that exists to complain about piracy, because it is beneficial. It is your own fault if you can't figure out how to take advantage of that.

    43. Re:But... by chrish · · Score: 1

      Have you considered putting Block Story on RIM's PlayBook platform? Since version 2.0 of the PlayBook OS, they've supported Android executables (although you do have to repackage them). It seems to help with downloads and sales.

      It's a trivial "port" if your app doesn't require native code, so it's not a huge investment on your part. BlackBerry 10 is going to support Android apps too, so you won't be limited to just the PlayBook for long.

      Disclosure: I work for RIM.

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  2. WHAT !! THE F.B.I. SIEZED GOOGLE !!?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's about time !!

  3. Trolls by noh8rz7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow, judging by the above comments, the apple trolls/shills are out in full force! Will the real tim cook please stand up?

    1. Re:Trolls by shentino · · Score: 0

      Just because the pot is the one calling the kettle black doesn't automatically mean the kettle isn't actually black.

      In fact, the pot's own color could well make it an expert on knowing a black kettle when it sees one.

    2. Re:Trolls by Uberbah · · Score: 1, Troll

      Wow, should be easy to name some examples then, since there's only 52 comments in this story (so far). Where, exactly, are these shill/troll comments.....

    3. Re:Trolls by noh8rz7 · · Score: 1

      look at the time stamps, first four comments, all AC.
      http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3064939&cid=41080157
      http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3064939&cid=41080175
      http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3064939&cid=41080201 (this one is actually kind of funny)
      I can't find the fourth right now.

    4. Re:Trolls by toriver · · Score: 1

      Ah, but the commie Linux users do understand the /. scoring system since they have already downloaded the Slashcode source and read it. They don't understand user interfaces though so they did not connect the source they read with the elements in the web page.

  4. but how do i buy apps in Uganda? by alen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but most of the good apps and games aren't available in the uganda google play store

    1. Re:but how do i buy apps in Uganda? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the idea. They don't want Ugandans to use their precious apps. They don't want Ugandan money. Much like Harmony Gold, selling things to all who would buy it is not their goal. Making people pay them excessive amounts of money to do nothing is what they want.

    2. Re:but how do i buy apps in Uganda? by tepples · · Score: 1, Funny

      Have you tried contacting employers in countries other than Uganda to see if they'd sponsor your work visa?

    3. Re:but how do i buy apps in Uganda? by characterZer0 · · Score: 1

      What makes you think he wants to live somewhere other than Uganda?

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    4. Re:but how do i buy apps in Uganda? by tepples · · Score: 1

      Because living elsewhere ensures access to apps. No place in this system of things is a perfect place to live; one has to pick the least bad.

    5. Re:but how do i buy apps in Uganda? by severn2j · · Score: 1

      Because living elsewhere ensures access to apps. No place in this system of things is a perfect place to live; one has to pick the least bad.

      Then, in this case, the "least bad" option is to "pirate" it. If the company doesn't sell it in Uganda, then they lose nothing by him downloading it.

  5. Our Dutch and French Masters by jbeaupre · · Score: 1, Funny

    When will we throw off the tyranny of Europe and their wild view of copyright? I for one am tired of having to jump every time some Dutch or French bureaucrat decides our copyright enforcement is too lax.

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    1. Re:Our Dutch and French Masters by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      Seems satire is harder to recognize than I thought.

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    2. Re:Our Dutch and French Masters by uniquename72 · · Score: 2

      That was satire? Don't quit your day job.

    3. Re:Our Dutch and French Masters by jbeaupre · · Score: 2

      Yes. I'll have to rethink my dreams of supporting an extravagant lifestyle by posting on Slashdot.

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  6. In the Meantime by canadiannomad · · Score: 1

    15 new sites popup, android torrent programs get a boost, and alternate piracy sites get a lot more publicity for free.

    Good one guys, thank you for making your country's government live up to the phrase "land of the free."

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    Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
    1. Re:In the Meantime by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 1, Informative

      "Land of the Free" does not include allowing you to be "free" to break the law.

    2. Re:In the Meantime by canadiannomad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Does this not make you scared: "In most cases, the servers storing the apps sold by these alternative online markets were being hosted in other countries, and our international law enforcement partners assisted in obtaining or seizing evidence stored on these servers."
      I really hate the extent to which the US is exerting its thought crime laws in other sovereign nations. I guess not so sovereign any more.

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      Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
    3. Re:In the Meantime by canadiannomad · · Score: 2

      "In most cases, the servers storing the apps sold by these alternative online markets were being hosted in other countries, and our international law enforcement partners assisted in obtaining or seizing evidence stored on these servers."

      Besides, it shouldn't be law. In my opinion the law is immoral.

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      Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
    4. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Now where are my black slaves?

    5. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Does this not make you scared: "In most cases, the servers storing the apps sold by these alternative online markets were being hosted in other countries, and our international law enforcement partners assisted in obtaining or seizing evidence stored on these servers."
      I really hate the extent to which the US is exerting its thought crime laws in other sovereign nations. I guess not so sovereign any more.

      Hmmm ... labelling copyright violations as "thought crime laws" is what makes me more scared. Come on, people -- we're talking about apps that cost the same as a cup of coffee (if not less). If you've ever written software, you'd know how much work it is; why do people get so upset at having to occasionally pay to support an independent developer?

      (disclaimer -- personally, I release all my software as free and open source, but I also believe that it's completely fair and reasonable if people want to charge for what they write.)

    6. Re:In the Meantime by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or even think about anything that is copyrighted!

      Once you read your copy... you MUST erase it from your mind immediately. And your copy has only been licensed for one reading.

    7. Re:In the Meantime by shentino · · Score: 1

      They're still sovereign.

      It's just that they have chosen to yield.

    8. Re:In the Meantime by geekoid · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's immoral to allow some to determine the distribution of their work for a limited time?

      You're an idiot, but what ever helps you sleep at night when you continue to rip people off,.

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    9. Re:In the Meantime by geekoid · · Score: 1

      It's an agreement between countries. The US didn't bomb the place. Those nation can choose not to participate.

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    10. Re:In the Meantime by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Does this not make you scared

      Yes, your shrill, deliberate mis-use of the term "thought crime" and purposeful embrace of the practice of ripping off thousands of man-hours of work in order to save the cost of a cup of coffee - that is scary. Because it shows just how entrenched the entitlement-minded leech culture is.

      Stop Global Whining.

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    11. Re:In the Meantime by kaizendojo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So do nothing? The thing you fail to address is that pirated apps are one of the prime vectors for security hacks and viruses, espceially in the mobile sector.

    12. Re:In the Meantime by flirno · · Score: 1

      Yes it does. It just does not allow you to be free of consequences of your actions.

    13. Re:In the Meantime by Desler · · Score: 1

      The only thing I'm scared of is idiots like you making it so no one listens to anyone who speaks up about copyright reforms. Trying to claim that not being allowed to violate copyright law is a thought crime is one of the dumbest this I've ever heard. You make it so that the people who aren't shrill become easy to marginalize.

    14. Re:In the Meantime by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Its refreshing to not see Slashdot trying to justify breaking laws and demonizing the enforcement of them. Anarchy is not good, guys.

    15. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would love to see the reaction of smaller nations if that was the attitude of us web sites like google and facebook when it comes to assisting cement in said nations.

    16. Re:In the Meantime by Tokolosh · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's immoral to allow some to determine the distribution of their work for a limited time?

      No, it is not immoral.

      However, the current definition of "limited time" is immoral, thereby negating the intent of the US Constitution.

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    17. Re:In the Meantime by alexgieg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's immoral to allow some to determine the distribution of their work for a limited time?

      Yes, it is. You don't do it by yourself, you know? You go to nanny State and papa Government and beg them to please, pretty please, violate the property rights of every single other human being on Earth for your own benefit, so that my computer isn't mine anymore, it's the government's, which now merely allows me to use it in the ways they deem right and legit. That's quite immoral, yes.

      Which isn't to mean authors shouldn't be rewarded. But they should be rewards in whatever way the free market develops, not by way of employing the full force of the hugest apparatus of violence ever assembled in the History of mankind.

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    18. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they continue that trend, they will not be sovereign for very long.

    19. Re:In the Meantime by canadiannomad · · Score: 1

      See above for my clarification on the "thought crime" statement. It is a crime that harms no-one, and really should not be enforced outside of your own closed minded borders.
      Now to be honest, I think you are trivializing how easy it would be to actually stop infringement. You think that marginalizing people or even the practice would in any way even put a dent in the rate of copying? See the UK for an answer.
      There is nothing I, or anyone could say that would make it stop. Just not possible. In my opinion all discussions on it are moot. The only thing left is how/if we go after people in other countries for doing something that is impossible to stop.

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      Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
    20. Re:In the Meantime by Desler · · Score: 1

      I'm talking about idiots like you making it extremely easy for the MPAA/RIAA to marginalize people who want copyright reform. They can just point out retarded statements like your own to basically get the lawmakers to ignore the entire debate from the other side. You don't help anyone by being a shrill asshat.

    21. Re:In the Meantime by canadiannomad · · Score: 1

      I'm not the one going around calling people names neener :P

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      Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
    22. Re:In the Meantime by canadiannomad · · Score: 1

      Right.... A big guy with a huge ass gun, and a gang of pals with insane looks in their eyes come by and tell you to bend over. "It's an agreement between parties. The scary guys didn't shoot you. You could choose not to participate."
      Fully consensual I'm sure.

      --
      Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
    23. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop Global Whining

      O.o

      Have any bumper sticker for sale? I'll take a dozen.

    24. Re:In the Meantime by lexman098 · · Score: 1

      It's not about the money, it's the perception of getting ripped off. I don't like paying to support any developer that turns out complete crap applications (even if I didn't lose very much) and I don't like being nickle-and-dimed for features (or bug fixes) that really should have been included with the OS to begin with. That may be a matter of perception, but getting someone to pay for anything when they know they don't have to is always going to be a matter of manipulating perception. Once I decide that I really appreciate an app and I want to support the developer then it doesn't matter (for the most part) how much the app costs. It could be 1 or 10 dollars for all I care.

    25. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like being nickle-and-dimed for features (or bug fixes) that really should have been included with the OS to begin with.

      I hope you aren't stealing apps from indie developers to fill in that void. Because if you are, you're punishing the indie developers, not the OS maker.

    26. Re:In the Meantime by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      No, but what if the only means of effective enforcement is via immoral actions? Piracy is just too commonplace to have any chance of stopping it while bound by the need for fair trials and real evidence. The only effective means would be preemptive mass censorship and guilty-until-proven-innocent punishments on flimsy evidence. It's that hard to stop people committing a crime when doing so takes only a commonplace tool and about thirty seconds, and the chance of detection is so low.

    27. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any sovereign nation also has the choice of not allowing the distribution of goods which are covered by US Copyright in their countries or even allowing people to sell these goods "illegally" and telling the US to stuff it.
      Their citizens might be a little upset if they for some reason need to prove to the US entity holding the copyrighted material that they legally own it and it might also cause some trade embargo situations if a country actually tried this openly.
      The US government has no actual authority over other countries, however, and can't arrest people in another country for violating US copyright laws unless that country agrees to extradition.

      They want to legally sell stuff covered by US Copyright? Then they follow our rules. no matter how arbitrary they seem to anyone else.

    28. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An atomic bomb? You suck at Hyperbole.

      More dickheaded insightful votes

    29. Re:In the Meantime by P-niiice · · Score: 1

      I'll remember this if I ever go to jail. You're in full control when the big prisoners come asking.

    30. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The atomic bomb is a device which was produced by the apparatus of the US Military-Industrial complex. The same apparatus alexgieg was referencing.
      I do agree his comments weren't very insightful. Are you just noticing slashdot rankings have not been useful going on three years now?

    31. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. They are happy to comply. I would bet money that they made the first move.

    32. Re:In the Meantime by Agent0013 · · Score: 1

      So do nothing? The thing you fail to address is that pirated apps are one of the prime vectors for security hacks and viruses, espceially in the mobile sector.

      So what is left to do. The people using the pirated apps have extra problems and danger that getting the legit apps avoids. If that doesn't stop them then what makes you think anything else will?

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    33. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it shows just how entrenched the entitlement-minded leech culture is.

      Generalizations, generalizations...

      It's so much easier to pretend to be an enlightened one than it is to merely accept that you have a difference of opinion.

    34. Re:In the Meantime by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      to merely accept that you have a difference of opinion

      Guess what: not all opinions are equally valid. The opinion that ripping off the people who create the software you want is a good thing? That is an inferior opinion based on an irrational world view.

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    35. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You go to nanny State and papa Government and beg them to please, pretty please, violate the property rights of every single other human being on Earth for your own benefit

      Wrong, it isn't violating the property rights of anyone, ignorant moron.

      so that my computer isn't mine anymore

      Another pathetic freetard false equivalency, deliberate or ignorant but you fail either way.

      it's the government's, which now merely allows me to use it in the ways they deem right and legit.

      Wrong again, you can use it however you like so long as you don't violate the rights of others.

      not by way of employing the full force of the hugest apparatus of violence ever assembled in the History of mankind.

      Oh of course, you know we shouldn't impinge upon the rights of anyone to do whatever they like in any capacity, there should be no laws and nothing should be enforced! Your problem is you're incapable of succeeding within the confines of society and lash out at those rules as justification for your inadequacy, you're more than welcome to move to a place in which a society more befitting to you exists, but you won't because you want to reap the benefits of the society you live in.

    36. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, generally they can't. Most of them have signed laughingly titled "free trade" agreements with the US that blackmail them into complying with US IP laws or losing out on import/exports.

      But please continue supporting draconian power abuses so that you don't have to do anything to protect your _own_ property.

    37. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The opinion that ripping off the people who create the software you want is a good thing? That is an inferior opinion based on an irrational world view.

      Okay, I'll just contact the deity that decided tha--oh. One doesn't exist? It's just convenient for you to arbitrarily decide that your own opinions about subjective matters are somehow more correct? I see.

    38. Re:In the Meantime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mostly insults. Safe to disregard.

      Wrong, it isn't violating the property rights of anyone, ignorant moron.

      Sure it is. You can't use your own property to replicate something that someone else has copyrighted and then distribute it, sell it, etc. That's a restriction on your property rights. Whether you agree with that restriction is another matter.

      Your problem is you're incapable of succeeding within the confines of society

      There aren't many people that this actually applies to. That said, I'd say your problem is that you seem to believe that all laws are just.

    39. Re:In the Meantime by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      It's just convenient for you to arbitrarily decide that your own opinions about subjective matters are somehow more correct?

      Who said anything about subjective? Rationally derived opinions are always superior to irrationally derived ones. Opinions based on fantasy are always inferior to opinions based on facts and reality. People who say that all opinions have equal merit are just intellectually lazy, and can't be bothered to talk about substance because that will shine light on the mixed premises and irrationalities underlying their world view. They find that uncomfortable, so they attempt to cover it up by being moral relativists and having situational ethics instead of real ones.

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  7. Criminal law by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    Think about it, the copyright and patent law make something that is supposed to be just a way to protect a business model into a criminal offence.

    Really? You think this is what government should be doing?

    1. Re:Criminal law by Capt+James+McCarthy · · Score: 1

      Think about it, the copyright and patent law make something that is supposed to be just a way to protect a business model into a criminal offence.

      Really? You think this is what government should be doing?

      Sure. It's a criminal offense to walk into a bank/store/shop and steal products/money. The only difference is that it's electronic media.

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    2. Re:Criminal law by Missing.Matter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Copyright infringement is a civil matter.

    3. Re:Criminal law by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      1. Copyright infringement is not theft. It's a crime under the law, but it is not defined as theft, otherwise it wouldn't be a separate thing, called copyright infringement.

      2. Why is it a criminal offence to steal? Why is the government involved in judging people criminally for theft? Why shouldn't it be a completely private matter between the 2 private sides? OK, when it is stolen from government or when government is doing the stealing, then it would make sense, but government being involved in theft cases? It's a private matter, it should be left up to the private security and civil courts to deal with. Do you really want a thief being locked up in government prison rather than being forced to just return the goods and/or repay the damages (plus a large fine, maybe a 3 times value of the stolen goods?) What does it matter to you if a thief is in jail - you are still out of property, and now you are going to pay taxes to keep him in jail.

    4. Re:Criminal law by shentino · · Score: 1

      Unless done commercially, then the FBI gets involved.

      Haven't you seen those warnings that play on movies?

    5. Re:Criminal law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The downloaded torrents don't seem to have those warnings.

    6. Re:Criminal law by dimeglio · · Score: 1

      I think the government's responsibility is to enforce laws. Whether someone is actually guilty of breaking a law is determined in court by a judge and/or jury which is independent from the government.

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    7. Re:Criminal law by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      I think the government's responsibility is to enforce laws.

      - right, I said that government shouldn't be involved in this, what I mean obviously is that there shouldn't be government laws on things like copyright or actually theft if it doesn't concern the government itself.

    8. Re:Criminal law by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, why is the FBI involved in these cases then? What happened to Kim Dot Com, a civil hearing or was he struck with the heavy boot of FBI and other police agencies?

    9. Re:Criminal law by dimeglio · · Score: 1

      Given that the government represents the people, it does in fact concern the government itself. Unless you're into having private police forces, you're stuck with this.

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    10. Re:Criminal law by nschubach · · Score: 1

      So were these websites/owners given a fair trial in court?

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    11. Re:Criminal law by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Given that the government represents the people

      - can you point out the specific people that the government represents by handing out copyright and patent protections? Because it's not the majority of the people, it's not the consumers for example. Consumers would be served best with the most choices, not with limited choices provided by the artificial monopolies created by these laws.

      So who are these people? Seems to me you are implying that the government is there to represent the people like RIAA, MPAA, various businesses. Are businesses the only people that should be represented by the government?

      Isn't that exactly what I always object to - have government stealing the freedoms from the individuals so that these freedoms can be then sold to the highest bidders? Wouldn't the government represent the people better if it did not in fact create monopolies with laws like this?

      As to theft, again, who is represented? Are the people that are being stolen from really represented in court really when the thieves are placed into jail to be the ward of the public? Why are the thieves not just forced to return the stolen goods and / or work to repay the damages and interest, why are the victims forced to care for them with public financing instead?

      Again, who is truly represented here?

    12. Re:Criminal law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is the government involved in judging people criminally for theft?

      So business owners, the job creators, don't have to spend money on their own private prisons and courts.

      Do you really want a thief being locked up in government prison rather than being forced to just return the goods and/or repay the damages (plus a large fine, maybe a 3 times value of the stolen goods?)

      If the thief could actually produce enough value to pay you back 3 times the value of the stolen goods (in a reasonable time), why would he be a thief in the first place? He could have just worked and traded with you.

      No, the thief obviously could not be productive as a free person. So the practical solution is to make him become productive as an enslaved person: take away the thief's rights and freedom, force him to do work he otherwise wouldn't do at the threat of violence.

      Jailing people is not just good on a practical level, but emotional. It just feels good. As a certain movie said, what is good in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

      What does it matter to you if a thief is in jail - you are still out of property, and now you are going to pay taxes to keep him in jail.

      Only for now. See, jailing people is the first step. The next is to implement what you want, making it so "you" the business owner pays less/no tax, and making the poor who don't own businesses pay the tax to fund those prisons (they did benefit more from society after all)

      You need to think long term. Today you're paying for those jails. But someday, you won't - the poor will, and they'll need jobs to pay for those things, and would be willing to work for you for dirt cheap. Those who don't like it? Well you can throw them into the jails which you won't be paying for! It's triple win!

    13. Re:Criminal law by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, why is the FBI involved in these cases then?

      Because they are a tool for capitalism, that's why. Ooo, lookie, another nickle and dime copyright infringer taken down while a single banker has yet to be investigated* or prosecuted.

      *SEC "investigations" which result in a fine that take a small bite out of illegal profits don't count.

    14. Re:Criminal law by roman_mir · · Score: 2

      Because they are a tool for capitalism, that's why.

      - what does capitalism have to do with it? This is merging of the government power with corporate interests, it's done in a way that benefits the politicians as well as some corporate interests.

      OTOH it hurts other corporate interests (it hurts competition) and it hurts the consumer.

      This is not about capitalism, this is simply corruption. Corruption is government stealing individual liberties from people and selling them to SOME people with money.

    15. Re:Criminal law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      - can you point out the specific people that the government represents by handing out copyright and patent protections?

      Business owners (of copyrighted material), obviously

      Consumers don't really matter. It's the business owners who matter. Business owners produce new products and services. Consumers just... consume. They don't produce.

      Especially US consumers, who aren't producing enough that the US has to import more than they export.

      That said, there are still people in government who represent consumers - the people who support the printing of more money, increasing the debt, and keep on subsidizing the American consumer, holding the world hostage to accept your American dollars with its giant military industrial complex.

    16. Re:Criminal law by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

      Just because the patent system is broken does not mean the concept of patents is wrong. Same with copyrights. One could easily argue that without some sort of IP protection, consumers wouldn't have more choice, but less. Theoretically, patents and copyrights protect the small guy from having their IP being stolen by the big corporations you list. Without patents and copyrights, I could create something and somebody else, with more money come along and just undersell me until I couldn't afford it any more. Again, the concept is valid, it's just that the current system is flawed.

      The real solution, is to fix the system, not get rid of IP protection.

    17. Re:Criminal law by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

      I think the government's responsibility is to enforce laws.

      - right, I said that government shouldn't be involved in this, what I mean obviously is that there shouldn't be government laws on things like copyright or actually theft if it doesn't concern the government itself.

      So, if you pitch a screen play, I as the producer should be able to say no, and then take your idea and do my own screen play based on your work without you being compensated?

      Or if you come up with a new device and show it to me, I should be able to take your device make a million of them and sell them to everyone and you get no benefit from it?

      Isn't that how it was prior to the creation of patent and copyright laws?

    18. Re:Criminal law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that how it was prior to the creation of patent and copyright laws?

      Nope, before copyright laws...

      -I didn't come pitching a screenplay to you. YOU came to me (or advertise) and say "I'll pay somebody X to write me a screenplay". I won't deliver you that screenplay until I know I'll receive money ("you got the stuff?" "yea, you got the money?" "let me see the stuff" "let me see the money" etc.)

      -I placed locks on my device to deter/prevent you from copying it easily. I might keep certain techniques used in production of my device a trade secret, the same way KFC still locks up their original recipe.

    19. Re:Criminal law by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Doesn't even need that. The NET act redefined the 'commercially' part to include an expectation of receiving infringing works in payment, which is quite broad. Up to a five year prison term per infringement, plus $250,000 fine. It was passed in response to the old BBS systems, but applies just as much to p2p.

    20. Re:Criminal law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cronyism Is the word you are looking for. This is not Capitalism, it's Crony-Capitalism.

    21. Re:Criminal law by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      So, if you pitch a screen play, I as the producer should be able to say no, and then take your idea and do my own screen play based on your work without you being compensated?

      - of-course. The government shouldn't have a role in this, so if this business model ends up not workable, then you wouldn't be pitching screen plays to producers just like that.

      By the way, there is still a contract that you can use, who says that you cannot have a private NDA or contract with the producer that would specify what you are pitching and that the producer cannot use it without your permission?

      Why should this be a moral hazard created by government rather than you, yourself having to find a workable solution? Who are you to tell the society that it must for some reason protect your so called 'Intellectual Property'? It's up to you to protect your IP, the society doesn't win anything by giving up individual liberties and creating entire government structures that would protect your business model.

      Clearly you should be able to figure out a way how to handle this situation, this is no different from tens of thousands of other types of businesses that do not get such special government protections.

    22. Re:Criminal law by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Oh, and as to patents. Yes, it's your problem if somebody can undercut you. You have the advantage of being the first to market in any case.

      You have the advantage of being able to have private information, trade secrets, as to how you do whatever it is you do. Your trade secrets mean that whoever wants to copy and sell similar items, they would have to figure out how to do what you do in the same way or in a similar way, which only benefits the society further, because maybe they'll find a competitive way of doing the same thing better, faster, cheaper, that's all the society cares about.

      The government shouldn't be in any position to protect any special interests, including your ability to prevent people from making similar things in the market cheaper, better, faster, prettier, whatever. The losers in this protection scheme are all the customers, all the consumers and also by the way, all the competitors.

      The winners are the monopolists that get to enjoy these special protections and artificial monopolies.

      I like how people argue that the free market doesn't work because it creates monopolies, they are completely backwards. All monopolies are created by government intervention, free market doesn't create monopolies, it allows for very competitive economies of scale that produce exactly what the customers want and if that economy of scale stops producing what the customers wants, it fails and competitors step in. Large companies fail all the time for these very reason, it's a very healthy way to reallocate the scarce resources to more efficient uses that market approves of with profits.

    23. Re:Criminal law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Copyright infringement is a civil matter.

      Unless I pay directly for the laws I wish.

      Sorry but when money talks to politics, people mean nothing.

    24. Re:Criminal law by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Christ, what idiot modded that "insightful"? It shows no insight, in fact shows the commenter lives in a fantasy world.

      You do realise that 90% of all stolen items are never recovered and 90% of theives get away? And if you do catch the guy who stole your cow, how is he going to compensate you for it after he's eaten it? He wouldn't be stealing unless he was destitute or insane. He's not going to have anything to compensate you with. Also, I see you've never been burglarized or robbed. It's a traumatic experience that nobody should have to go through.

      It's a criminal offense to steal because government's primary job is to protect you from me.

      What about rape? How are you going to get compensation for a rape victim? I've talked to victims of rape, and can tell you that there is no just compensation short of having the rapist incarcerated... and that's not even enough.

      Kid, your anarchist utopia is an unworkable fantasy world. ANARCHY ALWAYS LEADS TO MONARCHY. You may think you're superior to everyone and can do everything with no help from anyone, but that's just delusional. If you were dropped in the middle of the woods with no tools, you'd starve. If someone dropped you in the middle of a ghetto, you'd probably not make it out alive.

    25. Re:Criminal law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christ, what idiot modded that "insightful"?

      Probably people who only read the first point (that "copyright infringement" and "theft" are two different things... which AFAIK is correct)

      Remember, this is slashdot, where reading TFS is already a luxury.

      Also the people who'll up mod anything that contains a slam on copyrights/patents (but I'd give these guys a pass here since that's the actual topic of TFA)

      Not arguing, just offering an explanation/different perspective

      Also, I see you've never been burglarized or robbed.

      No, roman_mir is constantly being robbed.

      See, in his mind, the government is robbing the people all the time (taxes, regulations, inflation, whatever). So he's experiencing pain and suffering every day, while the rest of us (socialist sheeple/biased groupthinkers/etc) don't.

      It's like how some people get drunk after two drops of alcohol, while some could chug a whole keg without breaking a sweat. Different people have different thresholds.

      Again, just offering a logical explanation.

    26. Re:Criminal law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. Copyright encourages censorship (of websites, for instance) and removes control of your own property (you can't use your own pen and paper to write a book identical to someone else's and then sell it). This nonsense will always be broken, and people that care about freedom will oppose it. Find a way to make money or die.

    27. Re:Criminal law by metaforest · · Score: 1

      Copyright infringement is a civil matter.

      Not when it is organized as a for-profit venture. That makes it criminal.

      Disclaimer: IANAL

  8. How to circumvent? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Why don't these sites just advertise their IP address instead buying and losing domain names?

    Nice little propaganda piece on copyright coming from the DOJ there. Glad to see their priorities are in order.

    --
    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    1. Re:How to circumvent? by heypete · · Score: 1

      IP addresses are less portable. One can easily point a domain name at a new IP address, but this is not as easily possible with just an IP address. They're also quite a bit less memorable.

    2. Re:How to circumvent? by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Would this help?

      The one good thing that comes from this is the pressure to get a decent mesh network up and running. Here's hoping for a swift solution.

      --
      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    3. Re:How to circumvent? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      But it'd still be a domain name that can be taken down. The only way I can see would be to get a domain name under a country-code where the US holds no influence, and the national government doesn't even pretend to care about piracy. Somewhere like Russia. There are a number of blatantly infringing music services operating on .ru domains.

  9. Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm so glad DOJ cares about copy right infringement while not giving two $h1ts about thousands of Mexican lives that were lost while DOJ instructed ATF to let guns walk south.

  10. Apple by slashmydots · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Too bad everyone's not using 1 thoroughly monopolozed...I mean centralized Apple store. Then instead of virus infested counterfeit apps, they'd only have to deal with Apple secret police kidnapping apps randomly out of the store for no reason, insane overpricing/insane profit margins, psychotic Apple geniuses (see story a couple down from this one :-P ) and human rights violations.

    1. Re:Apple by mcwop · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia iTunes plays you!

      --

      "I don't think it's selfish, to eat defenseless shellfish." -NOFX

    2. Re:Apple by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      Everywhere else, Apple plays you!

      --

      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    3. Re:Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      99 cents is insane overpricing?

    4. Re:Apple by the+computer+guy+nex · · Score: 1

      If you would listen to an Apple conference call, you would find out that iTunes and the App Store barely make any profit. Apple's margins come from hardware sales due to their mastery of their supply chain, not from overpriced 99c songs or 99c apps.

    5. Re:Apple by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I thought it was increasingly the other way around - that's why they killed off the xserve, to focus on the consumer space rather than corporate. Do you have any reliable figures? Because I'm too lazy to google for them right now.

  11. Shoplifting != prohibited copying by tepples · · Score: 0

    When you walk into a store and shoplift a product, the store no longer has the product to sell to someone else. This is not true of prohibited copying.

    1. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by geekoid · · Score: 0

      Wow, you are genius! That's a nice response..if your 15.

      You still violated the law; which existed to give people a limited time to control the distribution of their product. A person created something, and then other people are making money from that in some form. They are infringing on the rights of the person producing the music.

      --
      The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
    2. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by dimeglio · · Score: 1

      That's one way to look at it. Here's another: when you copy and distribute software without authorization (which allegedly those sites did), you basically substitute the legitimate distribution channel (which pays the author) by another which doesn't pay the author. This can result in substantial losses for the author. Alternatively, when you shoplift, only the retailer is the only one losing and typically he has insurance to cover such loses. Hard to say which is worse...

      --
      Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the author.
    3. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As defined by current law, yes. However, that does not mean the law best represents what is best for society.

    4. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by tepples · · Score: 0

      You still violated the law

      Prior to the Thirteenth Amendment, smuggling slaves violated the law.

      which existed to give people a limited time to control the distribution of their product

      There is no practical difference between a limited time as defined by the Supreme Court in Eldred v. Ashcroft and an unlimited time.

      A person created something, and then other people are making money from that in some form.

      Not all aspects of a work are copyrightable.

      They are infringing on the rights of the person producing the music.

      So if I write a song, what should I do to avoid accidentally infringing the copyright in an existing song?

    5. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, and if you rape someone while they were sleeping and clean up after words its not rape right? after all they didn't even know and their life wasn't disrupted

    6. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Wow, you are genius! That's a nice response..if your 15.

      Your projection is noted.

      You still violated the law

      Pickpocketing is against the law - does that mean it's the same thing as rape because they both involve inappropriate touching? Or, maybe, we can make use of this "language" thingy and have different words for substantially different things....

    7. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by tepples · · Score: 1

      It's still rape, as one inevitably doesn't "clean up afterwards". There's still the chance for transmission of sperm and disease. My point is that shoplifting is not copyright infringement, and copyright infringement is not shoplifting. The law defines them separately because they exist for separate reasons.

    8. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by Shagg · · Score: 1

      You mean potential losses, or maybe no loss at all, or maybe even a gain... nobody really knows for sure. However, let's just call it "substantial losses" since that fits with your agenda better.

      --
      Unix is user friendly, it's just selective about who its friends are.
    9. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      You still violated the law;

      Wow, you are a genius. That's a nice response... if you're 15 and haven't developed the situational awareness to realize that ethics and legality are completely orthogonal concepts.

    10. Re:Shoplifting != prohibited copying by Travelsonic · · Score: 1

      So? Broke the law maybe, but that wasn't the focus of the discussion at this point. Stop shifting the goalposts.

      --
      If you believe in privacy, and believe you have "nothing to hide" at the same time, you're a goddammed idiot
  12. Thank god for the pirates... by evilviper · · Score: 1

    I'm glad there's a thriving Android piracy scene out there. I don't have any problem shelling out money for Android apps, yet I've looked for pirated APKs on a few occasions.

    Why would I do this??? After all, they're only $1-5usd, and the overwhelming majority of the apps are free anyhow, so a few paid apps is no big expense (contrast this with IOS, where you've gotta pay for EVERYTHING). Well, there's a few different scenarios at work.

    One is device compatibility... I bought Sonic CD just days after it came out, and I was anxiously awaiting Sonic4. I heard people talking about it, but every time I'd go looking for it, there was no such app in the app store. After a few months, I was using the web interface to the app store for some reason, and found it... but it wouldn't allow me to purchase it. A quick search of the web for the apk, and it installed and ran on my device just fine. Once Sega gets their heads out of their asses, I'll buy the legit version, but thanks to pirates, I'm not a second-class citizen, stuck behind the wrong door in the walled-garden.

    Compatibility is another. When the sixaxis compatibility checker was spitting out ambiguous messages that weren't in the documentation, I did my own "checking" with the full app to see if buying it would be throwing money down a hole. Thanks pirates!

    And finally, there's always the case of a company that screws you over... Number 1 app on my phone is an RSS reader. Eliminates 90% of my "mobile" web browsing, with the painful interface that subjects me to (Slashdot is no exception). I decided to support RSS Demon and bought a copy, hoping that the annoying bugs would be fixed in just a few more releases...

    But within a month, they had rearranged their product offerings on the store, and now what I bought doesn't even exist, so I don't get the many, many upgrades that have come along since. And worse, I couldn't reinstall even the version I bought if my life depended on it, since it's no longer in the store, anywhere. e-mails to the developer have gone unanswered. I'll be dammed if I'm going to send them more money to just up and screw me over once again. Since I've already paid in, I don't feel even slightly hesitant to resort to piracy of the product I already bought. Thanks again, pirates!

    It'll be a shame if efforts to combat piracy are successful, and cut off semi-legitimate users like myself. Or worse, if it gets pushed underground a bit further, and every APK is packaged with some nasty virus out to steal all your data. AirPush and it's kin are bad enough, as-is, that everyone using Android is going to need Spyware remover and antivirus soon.

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    Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
    1. Re:Thank god for the pirates... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your argument is that the android platform is crap and stuff doesn't work on it. And that google lets shitty apps get out all the time to the point that you cannot trust anything?

    2. Re:Thank god for the pirates... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      True, but exactly the same problems have happened with Apple. There have been issues with some apps needing updates for new models of iPad, or app developers changing apps to remove features or add advertising to the free version, or whole apps being disappeared for legal reasons. For all the differences in how they market, at a business level they really operate in very similar ways.

    3. Re:Thank god for the pirates... by evilviper · · Score: 1

      So your argument is that the android platform is crap and stuff doesn't work on it

      Nope. The "compatibility" I mentioned earlier has to do with hardware... whether a given chipset can send the proper signals. It would be simpler with only 7 different sets of hardware, but "simpler" might just mean "doesn't work anywhere, ever, no matter what"... That's pretty simple, isn't it?

      And that google lets shitty apps get out all the time to the point that you cannot trust anything?

      Companies not upgrading their apps or supporting their users is not something that any app store could possibly fix. There's absolutely nothing "shitty" about any of the apps I mentioned.

      Your attempt to troll has failed miserably.

      --
      Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
  13. What a moron by MikeRT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really hate the extent to which the US is exerting its thought crime laws in other sovereign nations. I guess not so sovereign any more.

    Thought crime? Have you even read 1984? A thought crime is a "crime" in which the mere desiring something contrary to the law is itself a punishable criminal act. No proposed copyright law has come even close to being a "thought crime." You do genuine civilian libertarians absolutely no good with this extremist hyperbole and only make the rest of us copyright minimalists look like idiots.

    Heck, while I'm at it, I have news for you. We have these modern law enforcement mechanisms called "extraditions" and "international partnerships." This means that if people from your country screw over the US Government in the US, you help us stop them. Believe it or not, the US Government has actually done this in reverse on behalf of foreign countries such as when it puts Americans in prison for going to places like Uganda and Thailand to rape children or when it arrests Americans who raise funds for guerrilla groups abroad.

    1. Re:What a moron by Desler · · Score: 3

      One can imagine that people who make these statements are purposefully trying to get those who want copyright reform to be marginalized by saying exteremely stupid things.

    2. Re:What a moron by canadiannomad · · Score: 1

      Here we go: child rape === copyright ?????? WHAT?
      And though I used a term that originated in the book 1984, I was using it in a broader sense, somewhat whimsical sense. I meant it meaning that it is a crime that actually hurts no-one. Unlike your child rape cases.
      Copyright is broken, and businesses and artists that don't realize that are bound to fail. Sorry, welcome to the interconnected, wild-west capitalist society that is developing. It cannot be shut down, and those that try will fail in their attempts.

      --
      Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
    3. Re:What a moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here we go: child rape === copyright ?????? WHAT?

      Actually... you're right. Your government care MUCH more about copyright than they do about child rape so, not equal at all.

  14. Missing information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The article is missing important information like the IP number of the servers or other what pirate sites have not been seized yet.

    This kind of information is very important for me to judge the danger of piracy!

  15. As an ex-Android developer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    who was put out of business by piracy, good!

    Over 250,000 illegal installations...less than 1000 sales.

    1. Re:As an ex-Android developer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who was put out of business by piracy, good!

      Over 250,000 illegal installations...less than 1000 sales.

      oh no whatever shall we do without another angry birds clone

      link your app you pussy so we can mock how crappy a developer you are

    2. Re:As an ex-Android developer... by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      The real problem is that your product wasn't worth paying the amount you were asking.

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      ---- Booth was a patriot ----
    3. Re:As an ex-Android developer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I am not the poster... but most games are 99 cents. You can't charge less. So if the game wasn't worth 99 cents then why was it worth downloading for 250k people? I mean come on, in the 80s it was 25 cents to play a game for a few minutes in an arcade. The problem is people want things for free. Its the mentality of expecting a free meal, a free education, a free roof over their head. People are willing to pay money for their phone and their plan, but not 99 cents for a game.

    4. Re:As an ex-Android developer... by LodCrappo · · Score: 1

      side loading an apk costs $0.00. it is not very difficult to produce something worth $0.00 to 250k people.

      what is (marginally) difficult is to create something that

      A - is worth paying anything for to a large number of users, and
      B - actually gets you paid

      you apparently failed to achieve one or more of these requirements.

      --
      -Lod
  16. Is selling a used copy stealing? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Here's another: when you copy and distribute software without authorization (which allegedly those sites did), you basically substitute the legitimate distribution channel (which pays the author) by another which doesn't pay the author.

    For one thing, when I buy a lawfully made copy of a work distributed on a physical medium, use it, and then sell it used to someone else, that distribution channel doesn't pay the author either, but the law doesn't prohibit it. For another, what's "the legitimate distribution channel" for copies of the film Song of the South, the television series Spartakus and the Sun Beyond the Sea, or the video game Earthbound?

    Alternatively, when you shoplift, only the retailer is the only one losing and typically he has insurance to cover such loses.

    Watch for broken window fallacies here. If there were no shoplifting, insurance would be cheaper.

  17. You can't count copies as expected sales by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    $1 app - why even risk a virus or jailbreak or download hassle

    $10 app not valued at $10 - it still might not be worth the effort; but those greedy app developers can motivate somebody to put in more than $10 of their time just out of spite.

    If you are going out of business anyway you may as well lower the price before you go under. Stop blaming everybody else except yourself. You don't set your value it doesn't matter what you think your work is worth; the consumers decide that and maybe there is no middle ground and you go out of business, that is life.

  18. Google need to get gift cards worldwide by Teknikal69 · · Score: 0
    I know they just started gift cards in the USA but they really needed them everywhere else more, I think the main reason for Android piracy is it's to hard to buy things on Play I know I won't be able to purchase anything there until the gift cards get to the UK.

    I know Americans are usually pretty shocked not everyone uses a credit card but I've honestly never needed or wanted one and can still buy credit for iTunes, Skype, PSN, Amazon, eBay and dozens of others with no hassle.

    1. Re:Google need to get gift cards worldwide by Windwraith · · Score: 1

      That's the only thing keeping me from even thinking of purchasing anything from them. I don't have a credit card, nor I want one, and I am not willing to give Google all my real identity data by binding a bank account to them.
      Google being as it is, I can't trust them to not display my real name in my account or invalidate my account because my real name and given google name do not match.

      Not to mention, there are many things I can't purchase even if I paid money for them. Because the point of digital distribution is clearly useless when arbitrary country barriers are in place. I'd rather walk into a shop and buy my games, no strings attached.

      Then again, most apps charge too much for things FOSS has been giving us for free (and without tons of ads and other undesired extras), they are too limited in scope, and the games do nothing for hardcore players (there's only so much you can do without usable physical controls, and most of them are copies of flash games from sites like newgrounds or such).

      So...no wonder they get pirated, honestly. Note that I don't don't pirate Android software, I use either the few true FOSS apps in there, or just use my debian chroot with ACTUAL software, instead of those...toys.

      (And yeah FOSS matters. Connectbot and other variants have a bug that disconnects you from localhost terminals when the 3G/Wifi networks change states. I was able to just open the source and hack myself a workaround. I bet those paid apps won't let me do that.)

  19. Interesting... by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

    Of course they don't mention what apps were being illegally copied. In addition, they don't mention who requested the take down. Is this a case of true piracy, where people were circumventing paying for software? Or, is this a case where people were downloading free apps, but not through the google app store? If the latter, exactly what copyright was being infringed?

    1. Re:Interesting... by Shagg · · Score: 1

      Of course they don't mention what apps were being illegally copied. In addition, they don't mention who requested the take down.

      My guess would be that if these were apps written by independent developers or small shops, the FBI wouldn't care.

      --
      Unix is user friendly, it's just selective about who its friends are.
    2. Re:Interesting... by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

      My guess would be that your guess is correct.

  20. Band-aid fix by hemo_jr · · Score: 1

    Another band-aid fix that will fail to work and comes at the cost of due process and Internet freedom.

  21. Lawless Fucking Bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until the banksters are prosecuted once and for all, I have zero pity for copyright. As a juror I vote not guilty for all LAW, as long as these banks are allowed to steal.

  22. iOS piracy by Pausanias · · Score: 1

    I am actually quite amazed that iOS piracy is so unchecked and that no servers have been seized. Once jailbroken, any app is available malware free off one site that self-polices and pretty much everyone trusts.

    What's happening is that 1) in general apple users are willing to pay for stuff; 2) jailbreaking is a greater hurdle to overcome than sideloading; and as a result there is a lower iOS piracy rate and more profit for developers.

  23. This is what bittorrent is for by rastoboy29 · · Score: 1

    When will people understand that this is what P2P is for?

    Geez, pirate properly guys....

  24. Seized Domain Banners by pgn674 · · Score: 1

    I have been interested in the differences in the various banners that are put up on these seized sites. I have a Python script I run now and then to gather all of the banners. Right now I have 16 banners from 757 seized domains hosted at 4 IPs. If you'd like to see them, you can check out the Picasa Web Album.

  25. Android vs Apple by AlleyTrotte · · Score: 1

    Reason being the Android apps were better than their Apple counterparts.