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Study Finds Unvaccinated Students Putting Other Students At Risk
New submitter haroldmandel writes in with a story about the increase of certain diseases in school-age children due to parents not having their kids vaccinated. "Parents nervous about the safety of vaccinations for their children may be causing a new problem: the comeback of their grandparents' childhood diseases, reports a new study from the University of Pennsylvania School of Nursing. Despite the successes of childhood immunizations, wrote Penn Nursing researcher Alison M. Buttenheim, PhD, MBA, in the American Journal of Public Health, controversy over their safety has resulted in an increasing number of parents refusing to have their children vaccinated and obtaining legally binding personal belief exemptions against vaccinations for their children."
So, submitter, how much did Smaxoglithkline pay you?
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
Despite the success of childhood immunizations, a lot of people believe that the chocolate rations are really smaller and not bigger. There are a lot of real-world examples of statistics claiming a change in one direction (decrease in crime, increase in overall public health, etc) when it's really the opposite. There are far more real-world examples of things being stated as such as a mantra (for example: fat causes heart disease; most of your calories should come from carbohydrates), without actually being true or at least without good solid evidence (there's strong evidence that modern high-carb diets basically evolved because growing wheat/rice is cheap, and that high carb intake causes a hell of a lot more than just heart problems).
Most people of course believe the mantra. Everyone says vaccinations have increased public health. We have seen a real increase in public health. We accept that vaccination is a big part of that. Many people--journalists included--think that their beliefs shouldn't be challenged. That vaccinations are 'good' is obvious, it's obvious that they've improved public health, and yet there's controversy... because these people must be loonies, can't they see that vaccinations are good? Their very success should prevent such controversy because we all know of their effectiveness.
Also I don't get why unvaccinated students are putting other students at risk. Wouldn't vaccinated students be risk-free? This article reads to me like "Teenagers foregoing condom use putting teenagers who don't have sex at risk" ...
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From the Samsung posting...
By the way, how much of the following do you agree/disagree with? If there is a high correlation between all of these perhaps, for everyones sake, we could just shorten disagreements by separating people into two groups. No judgement here, it just would save everyone a lot of time.
Thinks Evolution is just a theory
Thinks Global Warming is not real/is a conspiracy
Thinks Obama is a socialist
Thinks Obama is a muslim
Thinks Obama was not born in the United States
*New* Thinks Obama will hand over sovereignty of U.S. to U.N. (Lubbock county judge)
*NEW* THINKS VACCINES CAUSES AUTISM (DONALD TRUMP)
*New* Thinks "legitimately raped" woman are biologically capable of preventing pregnancy (inherent in Republican Party Anti-Abortion Platform)
Thinks cutting government spending during a severe recession/depression is the appropriate thing to do
Thinks the U.S. health care system is the best in the world which justifies it costing twice as much as the next major country (Germany) while neglecting millions
Thinks Apple products are markedly inferior to the alternatives
Thinks Samsung didn't copy Apple
So, if people sort themselves into two groups say one called "Republicans" and the other say "Democrats" and would identify themselves as such, we could save everyone a lot of grief.
Already is.
Almost every person with a healthy natural immune system exposed to Poliovirus will brush it off with no symptoms and gain additional lifelong protection. The chances are almost nil of paralysis in this instance. About 95% of those exposed won't even have symptoms, even during an epidemic. 5% will have mild symptoms such as fever. Paralysis occurs in 1 of every 1000 of this 5%, and it's theorized that this group has genetic and anatomic susceptibility.
Polio peaked when sanitation was introduced, suggesting that the quarrantine of the fear of germs led to immune weakening.
The late George Carlin offered an anecdote of his childhood in Manhattan during the 1940's. "As kids we swam in the Husdon River.." (which at the time was full of sewage). "We swam in liquid shit. Why? To cool off. Not one of us kids got Polio (while others were dropping like flies).". He asserted that exposure to germs strengthened his immunity. "The immune system needs germs.. to practice on". Some of the best advice ever.
You can't get full natural immunity from synthesized germs. You can't fool mother nature. Let "herd immunity" work the way it was intended.
Serious risk of zero.
The CDC should be afraid of their own statistics.
Let's develop a drug to prevent automobile crashes instead.
No, you are not relying on others not to get sick. Not vaccinating is relying on ones body to resist and adapt. It is relying on the fact that while most of these 'extinct' diseases are being kept alive by labs, and others are being allowed to mutate by infecting those vaccinated. It is also relying on the fact that while the vaccines can work during an out break, they also can kill : http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/vaccine-decision/side-effects.html. Now while can is can in both cases, when the math is done a family with four children has a 4 in 2000 chance of a child dying from Diphtheria vaccinations, and that was before it was being put into all Tetanus shots. A number of people who don't vaccinate talk with doctors about it first, you might be surprised at the numbers of doctors who do not vaccinate. The point is there are a good number of non-vaccinating parents who hold their beliefs out of education, consultation, and research. Vaccination isn't always the solution, it DOES work on a portion of the diseases, the problem is we don't know if the vaccines are better or worse then our own systems and on which diseases because there are few to no studies on this view.
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In order to know which vaccines my son should get, I had to essentially become and expert in each vaccine.
Which you pretty obviously aren't. So let the experts do their job and shut the fuck up, you ignorant retard!