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Fathers Pass Along More Mutations As They Age

ananyo writes "In the 1930s, the pioneering geneticist J. B. S. Haldane noticed a peculiar inheritance pattern in families with long histories of haemophilia. The faulty mutation responsible for the blood-clotting disorder tended to arise on the X chromosomes that fathers passed to their daughters, rather than on those that mothers passed down. Haldane subsequently proposed that children inherit more mutations from their fathers than their mothers, although he acknowledged that 'it is difficult to see how this could be proved or disproved for many years to come.' That year has finally arrived: whole-genome sequencing of dozens of Icelandic families has at last provided the evidence that eluded Haldane. Moreover, the study, published in Nature, finds that the age at which a father sires children determines how many mutations those offspring inherit. By starting families in their thirties, forties and beyond, men could be increasing the chances that their children will develop autism, schizophrenia and other diseases often linked to new mutations (abstract)."

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  1. So... by Krneki · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just need to jerk off and store my sperm in the freezer at the age of 20? But then isn't mutation the key to natural evolution?

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    1. Re:So... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But then isn't mutation the key to natural evolution?

      Mutation and lots and lots and lots of trial and error, frequently with unpleasant consequences for the errors...

    2. Re:So... by aliquis · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, it's old news to me that the age of the father matters but what I know since earlier is that the telomere count increased in male sex cells and that those was inherited by the offspring which in return might get a chance in living longer.

      Or you could argue that maybe not because they got worse protection against cancer.

      But seriously. It make sense in an evolutionary way now when I think about it:

      If the father has managed to live for long there's a chance his genes are better than a father not as old, by increasing the possibly life length of his offspring the offspring got a better chance of spreading those good genes further.

      I hope I remember the telomere part correctly. If nothing else the number of mutations was mentioned to and yes, some will be bad and some will be good but without mutation no evolution and hopefully nature will in a long term perspective manage to pick the good stuff out from the bad stuff. It may not be good for the offspring but good for the future of the species.

      The old mention of mutations and telomeres if I don't remember all of it incorrectly was most likely posted on Slashdot to. But maybe two years ago or so.

    3. Re:So... by somersault · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Right now though, surviving doesn't mean much in terms of quality of life or of beneficial mutations. We can keep sick and diseased people alive for longer, we fix ugly people with braces and plastic surgery, etc.. selection pressures are changing in our society, and it's difficult to think of the change of direction as a good one for the future generations. At least we are coming to understand genetics better, and therefore may be able to sort out some of these issues anyway..

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    4. Re:So... by multimediavt · · Score: 4, Informative

      I read the studies and this really isn't that big a deal. For instance, the chance of autism is increased by 20-30% but there is still only a 2% chance of actually having autism appear. So, effectively there is a 0.6% (at most) additional chance that autism will develop in a child whose father is over 40. Autism is an especially hot topic right now due to the increase in proper diagnosis and therefore the increase in documented cases over recent years. This isn't due to more new babies being born with autism, but that they are better at diagnosing it and not thinking it's something else. The chances are still more-or-less the same.

  2. This kind of bolsters that evo-psych theory by samoanbiscuit · · Score: 5, Informative

    It meshes with the theory that women choose older men as partners because they are in a better position to care for offspring, but will try to have affairs with younger, sexier men. A man's sperm is separate from his ability to care for a child I suppose.

    Cue hundreds of slashdot commenters with some vein of "She's been cheating on me with the gardener I just KNOW it!"

    Well there is research that shows that women are attracted to different men when they're ovulating than they are when they're not. Link here

  3. Hardly surprising by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The testes are towards the outside of the body and vulnerable to all sorts of things, while the ovaries are better protected. Furthermore, sperm is produced over the course of a lifetime, whereas eggs aren't. The end result is that eggs are likely to have the original genetic material of Mom, while the sperm is more likely to have been modified (by radiation, damage from trauma, copying errors, etc) from the original genetic material of Dad.

    This seems like a good evolutionary strategy, however it arose: Mom provides a version that has allowed her to survive and reproduce, suggesting a minimum viability, which she passes on to the child. Dad provides a version of an evolutionarily successful human that is modified, allowing the species to improve itself (And if he's lived to old age, he was probably an effective survivor evolutionarily speaking).

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    1. Re:Hardly surprising by miketheanimal · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except: A woman is born with all the eggs she will ever have (they are not produced over the woman's lifetime). On the other hand sperm are produced more on an as-needed basis. So, there is much more opportunity for problems to arise with eggs (presumably why the chance of having a Down's Syndrome child increases with the mother's age).

  4. By starting families in their thirties, forties... by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    men could be more mature (no need to get in a divorce situation due to a driving urge to mount some other female) and be earning more money, thereby ensuring a more stable and financially sound basis for their household.

    that the chance the kid might come out with biological issues is a slight increase. while a younger father has a significantly increased chance to still feel a need to sow the wild oats and not be earning a lot

    not that older men can't be broke, and not that older men can't still cheat. but it helps to have all your sexual adventures when you are in your 20s, and not feel the need to do that when you are older. additionally, marrying older means the woman is more mature too, and you are more mature, and so the chance of your marriage lasting is greater because you understand the value of commitment over impulses, you are more interested in settling down, and you can pick the right spouse based on more ephemeral mature qualities rather than the mistakes you can easily make in your 20s and then feel like leaving the person later. all of this is of course better for kids: a stable home of mature parents who earn more money

    in other words, this news is a big shrug: "so what." the beneficial factors for having kids in your thirties and forties vastly outweigh the slight genetic risks

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  5. Re:By starting families in their thirties, forties by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was 40 when my son was born, and I can't keep up with the little mutant (though I hear of a special school for kids like him out in Westchester County, NY). There's a reason people have kids in their 20's, it's a physically exhausting challenge.

    But yeah, the mature relationship with my wife and stable financial situation are nice. Though I do wish I could stay awake past 8:30 PM.

  6. There's also a benefit to having an older father by Mandrel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So older men may father more sick children. But they also father longer-lived ones.

  7. I have a son with a 'de novo' mutation by Frans+Faase · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was 35 when I conceived my son. He was diagnosed with a 'de novo' (new) mutation in one of the two copies of his MLL2 gene: a single base pair was deleted at position 2272 ("c.2272delG"). This causes half of his MLL2 proteins to be not working resulting in Kabuki Syndrome. He has an academic IQ of around 50, but with some tasks he out smarts everyone I know: he can instantly see who are missing from a certain setting. Saw him walk into his class room, look around, walk to his teacher and when asked by her who were missing, mention the names without hesitating (or looking around) for a second.

  8. Re:Cuts Both Ways by CubicleZombie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Although women's sex drive (supposedly) increase through late 30's, fertility does not. All that worry in your 20's about your girlfriend getting pregnant turn into worries in your 30's that your wife won't get pregnant.

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