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OSU's Microbial Fuel Cell Could Make Waste Treatment an Energy Source

An anonymous reader writes "A team of engineers from Oregon State University has developed a breakthrough microbial fuel cell that is capable of generating 10 to 50 times more electricity from waste than other MFCs. The team hopes that their innovation will enable waste treatment plants to not only power themselves, but also sell excess electricity back to the grid. 'If this technology works on a commercial-scale the way we believe it will, the treatment of wastewater could be a huge energy producer, not a huge energy cost,' said associate professor Hong Liu. 'This could have an impact around the world, save a great deal of money, provide better water treatment and promote energy sustainability.'"

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  1. Good news for the enviornment! by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This would greatly help out the enviornment worldwide by making waste treatment profitable, while also removing the tax burden. Here in Nassau County, N.Y., the waste treatment plants have been mis-managed for seemingly forever. The plants break down regularly causing untreated waste to be released into the already fragile eco-system. The once thriving clamming industry has been reduced to.near non-existant here on Long Island. The blame lies squarely on the untreated sewage released into the bays.

    1. Re:Good news for the enviornment! by Cenan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah I'm not sure we actually want "profitable" slabbed on something as important as waste treatment. That word is commonly followed by words like "margin" and leads to all sorts of nasty shortcuts that are just barely inside the often arbitrary law requirements.

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    2. Re:Good news for the enviornment! by Turksarama · · Score: 2

      If waste treatment plants are privately owned then they're already being run for profit and are having 'margins' trimmed to the extent they can inside the law. If waste treatment plants are publicly owned then you don't suddenly need to privatize them if they start making energy and they won't be run for profit. It's just one more part of existing infrastructure, I don't see how it could suddenly lead to waste leaking everywhere.

    3. Re:Good news for the enviornment! by fufufang · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah I'm not sure we actually want "profitable" slabbed on something as important as waste treatment. That word is commonly followed by words like "margin" and leads to all sorts of nasty shortcuts that are just barely inside the often arbitrary law requirements.

      In developing countries such as China, economic development has higher priority over the environment. If protecting the environment is profitable, private businesses would do it. So I would say this is a step forward helping countries like China.

    4. Re:Good news for the enviornment! by SpzToid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The city of Amsterdam imports trash (for profit) from all over the place to generate electricity. Amsterdam is enlarging its harbor infrastructure to increase the amount of trash barges that are hoped to arrive from other countries as those countries seek to reduce waste & emmissions. Currently the CO2 from the trucks arriving at the facility is considered more wasteful than future barges.

      The most-coveted data center locations surround this facility btw.

      http://www.aebamsterdam.com/en/home

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    5. Re:Good news for the enviornment! by SpzToid · · Score: 2

      how come these plants aren't being constructed where the waste is generated?

      This is exactly what the city of Amsterdam decided to do for themselves, to the extent they can now look to import garbage at a profit. Let me tell you no one, I mean no one seriously overbuilds their infrastructure like the Dutch. I swear, they are an advanced society America could learn from. Not just in this example, but their health care too, (must we need to 'invent' everything ourselves? Can't America look to, and learn from others?).

      Others have tried and failed, and is anyone paying attention to the highly compressed Dutch society, for example as I have previously cited how they fuel Amsterdam's electricity?

      Actually, I just remembered that the financing of the Amsterdam Arena (sports stadium) was so incredibly successful, as in built on-time, on or under budget (can't recall precisely but it was very impressive!), etc. that project has earned a lot of study abroad.

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  2. Re:Or ... by Cenan · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFA:

    The system also works better than an alternative approach to creating electricity from wastewater, based on anaerobic digestion that produces methane. It treats the wastewater more effectively, and doesn’t have any of the environmental drawbacks of that technology, such as production of unwanted hydrogen sulfide or possible release of methane, a potent greenhouse gas.

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  3. Go Beavers! by riverat1 · · Score: 2

    Proud of my school!

  4. Electric profit doesn't mean overall profit. by Firethorn · · Score: 2

    While I'm sure that flipping a current electrical drain(pumps, valves and such) into a electrical source will make waste treatment/disposal cheaper, I'm not sure it'd truly make it profitable.

    Right now the cost sheet might be something like: Electricity $A, Manpower $B, Chemicals $C, Maintenance $D, etc... You might have a few positives - fertilizer products, chemical/mineral recovery, something, but it's insignificant.

    If B+C+D is greater than our new -A, and it likely is, then waste disposal is still negative. However, in many areas sewer(waste water disposal) costs more than providing the fresh water to the home. This might reduce that cost a bit. Or they might put the extra money(after the system has recouped it's costs) into treating the water better. We're releasing a lot more hormones and drugs into the water today, for example, even after the sewage has been treated. This might save enough to keep expenses the same while cleaning the water up a touch more.

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  5. Still charged... by farnsaw · · Score: 2

    What do you want to bet that we will STILL be charged a sewage fee?

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  6. Utility by jabberw0k · · Score: 2

    D. The industry is turned into a Public Utility, which is moderately regulated and expected to return a handsome if conservative long-term dividend. see also, Electric Company.

  7. As usual, all press release and no paper by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do these things never have a link to a peer-reviewed paper that I can read to see what they're actually doing?

  8. What's up with these breakthroughs by MLBs · · Score: 2

    For years now, from time to time we're informed of energy breakthroughs. Similar to this item, there are bacteria used for converting cellulose to glucose and other breakthroughs. How come we never hear of these getting to production? Is it just over optimism of the original press release, or is it the energy companies conspiracy theories?