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US Army To Train Rats To Save Soldiers' Lives

Hugh Pickens writes "The Department of Defense currently relies on dogs as the animal of choice for explosives detection but training dogs is expensive and takes a long time. Now the U.S. Army is sponsoring a project to develop and test a rugged, automated and low-cost system for training rats to detect improvised explosive devices and mines. 'The automated system we're developing is designed to inexpensively train rats to detect buried explosives to solve an immediate Army need for safer and lower-cost mine removal,' says senior research engineer William Gressick. Trained rats would also create new opportunities to detect anything from mines to humans buried in earthquake rubble because rats can search smaller spaces than a dog can, and are easier to transport. Rats have already been trained by the National Police in Colombia to detect seven different kinds of explosives including ammonium nitrate and fuel oil, gunpowder and TNT but the Rugged Automated Training System (Rats) research sponsored by the U.S. Army Research Laboratory, plans to produce systems for worldwide use since mines are widespread throughout much of Africa, Asia, and Central America and demining operations are expected to continue for decades to restore mined land to civilian use. 'Beyond this application, the system will facilitate the use of rats in other search tasks such as homeland security and search-and-rescue operations" adds Gressick. "In the long-term, the system is likely to benefit both official and humanitarian organizations.'" A rodent-vs-mine matchup has apparently been in the works for some time.

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  1. Can this replace the TSA? by Required+Snark · · Score: 5, Funny
    Can we replace the rats who currently infest our airports with actual four legged rats? It would be an obvious improvement that would be welcomed by the general public.

    Plus, many fewer people would mind if a rodent saw them naked.

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    1. Re:Can this replace the TSA? by Iskender · · Score: 5, Funny

      Proceed to room 101 for the rat inspection, Citizen.

    2. Re:Can this replace the TSA? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 4, Funny

      I thought they were supposed to use lawyers for this.

    3. Re:Can this replace the TSA? by StripedCow · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can we replace the rats who currently infest our airports with actual four legged rats?

      And then, conversely, we can use the TSA officers to detect explosives in the army.

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    4. Re:Can this replace the TSA? by TheLink · · Score: 2

      It's called a RAT scan. Y'know like CAT scan?

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  2. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? by cstacy · · Score: 2

    Oh goink - burlap chafes me so!

  3. Yeah... BORING! by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny

    Train the rats to swarm on command and skeletonize an enemy, THEN we'll have something! On days when they do that, you don't even have to feed them!

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  4. Awesome by phrostie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Putting polititians in the front lines?

  5. The Story of Minsc and Boo by Tynin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I read the article, it reminded me of the story behind the Baldurs Gate characters Minsc and Boo. Apparently, Minsc's character game from an actual pencil & paper DnD game where he was a ranger who would keep a satchel full of rats with him. The purpose of the rats were to be uses as crude trap detectors, take one out of the bag and direct it to run down some hall, usually with a toss in the right direction. Unfortunately during one of these events, a trap exploded and loosed something that smashed into Minsc head with critical damage. Some time later, after Minsc recovered, his intelligence was significantly lowered and he lost most of his memory, to the point he went from a ranger to a barbarian. He found a lone critter still in his old satchel, and thought he was a long lost friend, Boo the gigantic miniature space hamster.

    I wish the Army great successes in this small animal trap detecting program!

  6. Proper training by hyades1 · · Score: 2

    Let's hope they remember to teach the rats not to start snacking on the face of any trapped victims they find.

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  7. I'm half trolling... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... but that means the other half is serious...

    How about not-starting a new war every other decade? Only start one every 5 decades, one that really matters and there won't be the need for constant bomb-detection in rebellion-like war settings.

    It's just a random, naive thought and of course makes much less billions for those who have an interest in keeping the army in constant action.

    1. Re:I'm half trolling... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Want to just sit back and NOT respond to the loss of 2 large buildings and almost 3000 lives?

      When the enemy is something as vague as terrorism, yes.

    2. Re:I'm half trolling... by Lehk228 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      but saddam had NOTHING to do with that, and we murdered some half a million iraqi civillians just for fun.

      also, the US worked hard to earn 9/11, look into the history of our 'involvement' in the middle east. particularly our constant propping up of brutal regimes and deposing of legitimate governments who won't kiss our ass.

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    3. Re:I'm half trolling... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess turning a whole country to chaos and with that causing endless misery for 100s of thousands (including lots of american families who have dead, scarred (body as well as psyche) loved ones who trusted in the politicians) was a *sarcasm* truly sane response. Especially as that country *had nothing to do* with the terrorist attack in the first place. Furthermore, the war in that other country did neither find nor exterminate the terrorists but caused more misery, death, and financial cost.

      Oh, and the reasons for the invasion in the first countries were lies. Btw, terrorists are civilians with guns. Countries can start wars, civilians (you, me, Bin Laden) cannot. The US Goverment under George, Dick and Donald got trolled by some lame camel herders into doing something very, very stupid.

      Wake up, man (or should I rather say "Wake up, troll"). You have been lied to!

  8. I did demining for a while actually by hyfe · · Score: 5, Informative
    I actually worked in demining in South Sudan for a while, so just figured I could share a little bit of info:

    As far as machines and how stuff is done now, check out minewolf. They're the de-facto producer of mine-clearing equipment. Basically, you have three sorts of methods for clearning an area. Machine, manual with detectors or dogs. As often as you can, you use a machine to do it quicly, and then use dogs/manual for verification. Dogs are not considering good enough for primary search, only verification.. and some organisations have trouble pulling that off even. Dogs are difficult, but a lot cheaper and faster than humans.

    As far as using mice goes, they need to be very good. The UN does accredition for most humanitarion demining, so the mice will need to find all the mines in a training field before they're allowed to do real work. I really don't see that happening anytime soon.

    As a low-cost solution for the army, or if you need something quick-n-dirty in a disaster zone I'm sure they have their uses though.. but with humanitarion demining, you kinda need to be able to tell people that they will not blow up if they start farming the land you just cleared.. which makes it a very slow process which takes a lot of effort, a whole different beast than military demining.

    Also, on that note: fuck the US for dropping shitloads of cluster munitions on Laos, when you weren't even at war (Laos is the country next to Vietnam) and then having the fucking balls to not even attempt to help clean it up afterwards. FYI Canada and Europe are there now cleaning your mess.. some people consider less innocent children being blown up in pieces a good thing. Some people are, as a collective, not fucking assholes.

    If you had any sort of decency you'd sign the Ottawa Treaty.

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    1. Re:I did demining for a while actually by rally2xs · · Score: 2

      The minewolf machines all seem to have a common defect. They have an operator cab. Big bomb, and the op gets a TBI? That's not acceptable. The machines should all have little antennas that communicate with a remote operator console.

      Rats for demining may not be practical, but better than we have for counter-IED. Still, I'm not sure how you're going to get 'em to clear 28 miles of road in any sort of reasonable time frame.

    2. Re:I did demining for a while actually by MattskEE · · Score: 2

      Minewolf machines do support remote control operation, which is clearly stated on the Minewolf website. The operator cabs are also armored and physically removed from the tiller where mines will generally explode and they are specified up to a particular blast size.

  9. Psychological Operations value, as well by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    When battling superstitious folks, who believe in black magic, a soldier commanding a squad of rats could really scare the living bejesus out of insurgent types:

    "Do not dare to think about attacking us, or our hordes of rats will destroy your crops and rape your virgins!"

    On the other hand, having rats as your henchmen might also convince them that you really are the Great Satan. I guess we'll need some field trials to see how that works.

    Are rats Halal?

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  10. Re:Another cheesy attempt... by Joce640k · · Score: 2

    Other countries have been doing it for years...

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  11. Give me a rat and I'll make you an army. by Narcocide · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As far as using mice goes, they need to be very good. The UN does accredition for most humanitarion demining, so the mice will need to find all the mines in a training field before they're allowed to do real work. I really don't see that happening anytime soon.

    The rest all sounds quite reasonable and true, so you do deserve to know that it makes a difference the article is talking about rats not mice. While their outright combat effectiveness may be about equal, there is in fact an order of magnitude of intelligence difference between rats and mice. It is not a commonly known fact but rats are actually in the caliber of the intelligence of some of the smarter dog breeds and are very industrious in nature making them natural problem solvers and eager trainees. Since they reach maturity so fast (~3 year max life span) and it takes far less food and space to keep them healthy it is reasonable to expect you could train a whole lot more of them in a shorter amount of time to do just as good of a job as a dog.

    Plus they're vermin so less people are gonna cry about it if a few explode.

  12. concept is from before 1997 by MACC · · Score: 3, Informative

    and has been used heavily since.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APOPO

    known original work:
    http://www.apopo.org/cms.php?cmsid=16&lang=en

  13. Why do they need trained animals? by Hentes · · Score: 2

    Couldn't they just send a herd of sheep through the area?

  14. NIMH anyone? by LiquidAvatar · · Score: 2

    Given their breeding rate, they should call the program Nearly Infinite Mine Handlers.

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  15. Thattel do rattie,thattel do. :) by __aasdno7518 · · Score: 2

    I had rats as pets for years. They are very like miniature dogs personality wise..They will do very well at this job.