Ale To the Chief: White House Releases Beer Recipe

MMMMMMMMM by bobstreo · 2012-09-01 11:20 · Score: 4, Interesting

Taste the freedom

Re:MMMMMMMMM by fustakrakich · 2012-09-01 13:29 · Score: 5, Funny

Yeah, let's see the White House hydroponic set up in the grow room. Nothing but the best kind for these guys

--
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Re:MMMMMMMMM by AlamedaStone · 2012-09-01 17:35 · Score: 5, Funny

Yeah, let's see the White House hydroponic set up in the grow room. Nothing but the best kind for these guys
What would be the point? Everyone knows the president doesn't inhale.
No... you're thinking of the FIRST first black president.

--
"All these years believing you're the signified monkey, only to find out you're just a big hunk of nobody cares."
Re:MMMMMMMMM by fm6 · 2012-09-01 18:14 · Score: 4, Informative

You're thinking of Clinton. Obama's version was "of course I inhaled."
There's actually some evidence that Obama exaggerated his own use of illegal drugs during his college years. In any case, he's now known as the kind of guy who leaves the bachelor party when the strippers arrive — something he actually did once.
Re:MMMMMMMMM by K.+S.+Kyosuke · 2012-09-01 19:46 · Score: 4, Funny

That's incredibly disappointing, my esteem for Obama has been decimated
Oh, come on, sweetie, there will be many more bachelor parties, your job as a stripper is safe.

--
Ezekiel 23:20

Tax dollars? Not so much by ultraexactzz · 2012-09-01 11:23 · Score: 5, Informative

According to the blog post, Pres. Obama bought the equipment himself, and the staff works on it in their spare time. Now, the video and the blog are taxpayer funded, so there's that. But after seeing that recipe - totally worth it.

--
Never underestimate the potential of Human stupidity. -Heinlein

Re:Tax dollars? Not so much by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-01 12:08 · Score: 3, Funny

Now, the video and the blog are taxpayer funded, so there's that.
Ho ho ho, we've got him now.
Impeach!
Re:Tax dollars? Not so much by sl4shd0rk · 2012-09-01 12:59 · Score: 5, Insightful

I'd rather my tax dollars went to beer breweing anyway. It's either that or some military money pit facade.

--
Join the Slashcott! Feb 10 thru Feb 17!
Re:Tax dollars? Not so much by hey! · 2012-09-02 03:20 · Score: 2

Actually, the White House has three kitchens, an executive chef, four sous chefs and an executive *pastry* chef (the current officeholder is the author of "Desserts for Dummies" -- make of that what you will, but he *was* hired in the Bush Administration). The White House has a large kitchen and wait staff as well -- all to host state dinners that will blow jaded diplomats' socks off. Since the White House is in effect the world's largest three-star restaurant, and most of that capability goes unused most of the time, it hardly makes sense to make the Commander-in-chief microwave his own Hot Pockets.
The White House also has an official calligrapher who does insanely perfect work.

--
Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.

tax dollars are not involved by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-01 11:23 · Score: 5, Insightful

The brewing equipment and expenses were paid for by the Obamas personally. The same for all White House meals (I mean the POTUS family's personal consumption, I don't know about state dinners and such): their cost is paid from the POTUS salary. The POTUS is paid pretty well by most people's standards so s/he can afford it.

See: Reuters, "Taxpayers are not footing the bill for the beer, as both the cost of the equipment and the cost of brewing the beer is paid for by the Obamas personally, the official said."

Re:tax dollars are not involved by TemperedAlchemist · 2012-09-01 11:30 · Score: 4, Insightful

Guy literally has the most stressful job on the planet.
I think we should at least pay for his dinners.
Re:tax dollars are not involved by Rootkit · 2012-09-01 11:35 · Score: 5, Funny

Nice try Obama.
Re:tax dollars are not involved by fm6 · 2012-09-01 12:02 · Score: 4, Informative

Actually, the first family only pays the grocery bills. Taxpayers cover the cost of preparing the food.

Your tax dollars hard at work yet again! by fustakrakich · 2012-09-01 11:25 · Score: 3, Insightful

Yeah, well, compared to the wars, prohibition, TSA, etc., it's money well spent.

--
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”

Hey! by rsilvergun · 2012-09-01 11:26 · Score: 4, Funny

This would be a great time for the two candidates to sit down over a beer and talk... oh. Wait. He's a Morman. Oh well. I guess he can drink weak tea. Wait. Sorry. Can't have that either. Caffeine. I guess there's always caffeine free diet Pepsi.

--
Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/

Re:Hey! by fm6 · 2012-09-01 12:18 · Score: 4, Informative

Actually, the Mormon Word of Wisdom only forbids specific stimulating and intoxicating beverages, not alcohol or caffeine as such. Official LDS doctrine uniformly condemns alcohol, but they don't get uptight about the odd caffeinated cola.
Beside the point. Regardless of beverage, Romney can't be seen to treat Obama as anything other than Satan Incarnate. Notice how all the speeches at the recent convention were about how uncool BO is;
Indeed, the whole GOP brand is about condemning liberalism in any shape or form. Nancy Pelosi is evil. Harry Reid is evil. Liberals hate America. That's been their whole brand for the last decade or so.
This is a bad thing. Democracy only works when nominal enemies look past their differences and come up with solutions both sides can live with. If we don't outgrow this holier-than-thou crap soon, we're in big trouble.
Re:Hey! by Kagato · 2012-09-01 14:05 · Score: 4, Informative

I'm going to have to disagree with that one. A bunch of old mainframe guys I know worked for Control Data Corporation in the 80s. One of their big customers was the LDS for their massive genealogy project. Most of them spent a good deal of time at LDS offices in SLC, where they clearly recall having to sneak caffeinated coke from the local 7-11 inside a thermos.
I'm not an expert on what their holy book says or doesn't say, I can only say that LDS managers back then got bent out of shape over caffeine.
Re:Hey! by ClickOnThis · 2012-09-01 14:52 · Score: 4, Insightful

Oh, spare us. After eight years of liberals calling Bush every name in the book and inventing a few new ones too, you have the gall to blame Republicans for condemning liberalism? Who do you think you're trying to fool, besides yourself?
False equivalence. Bush didn't have people demanding to see his birth certificate, and then denying its legitimacy once they saw it. Bush didn't have a congress whose Democratic members vowed to make him a one-term president by any means necessary. Bush didn't have a senate whose Democratic members filibustered more (by a huge factor) than any other senate in history. Bush didn't inherit a financial crisis created by his predecessor (quite the opposite in fact.) I could go on but what's the point.

--
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
Re:Hey! by timeOday · 2012-09-01 16:28 · Score: 2

Oh, spare us. After eight years of liberals calling Bush every name in the book and inventing a few new ones too, you have the gall to blame Republicans for condemning liberalism?
Bush started two wars based on lies that cost trillions of dollars and killed hundreds of thousands of people. Obama hasn't done anything remotely that harmful. Simple facts.
Re:Hey! by fm6 · 2012-09-01 17:01 · Score: 2

Yeah, the Demos have a lot to answer for. But I would submit that they can't begin to compete with the GOP for simple "my way or the highway" assholedness.
For one thing, there's no left-wing equivalent of the Tea Party. Yeah, the Occupy Movement can match them in terms of extreme ideology and political temper tantrums. But Occupy refuses to have anything to do with formal politics, and thus has no influence over the Democratic party. As opposed to the Tea Party, which pretty much set the agenda for the GOP nomination process.
And there's no GOP equivalent of Barack Obama, a guy who has honestly tried to reach out to the GOP, and taken a lot of flack from his own side for doing so. You might recall him addressing that GOP congressional retreat early on in his term; in that speech he actually praised Paul Ryan for his anti-deficit initiatives. Which initiatives failed, incidentally, because of Ryan's total inability to compromise,.
Re:Hey! by khallow · 2012-09-02 00:26 · Score: 2

It's worth recalling here that Obama used to be a birther himself and claimed he was born in Kenya for the purpose of selling some of his books (at least one of which he backed out of).

So not only did we have the possibility of Obama being born in Kenya, but he made that claim himself at times. So why again, was it a bad idea to demand his birth certificate?

The thing I find remarkable about Obama is how, even by the already lofty standards of politicians, pathological and self-centered he appears throughout his adult life.

Bush didn't have a senate whose Democratic members filibustered more (by a huge factor) than any other senate in history.
Fortunately, Obama and the leadership of congress were incompetent enough that not much crap got passed. It's just not that hard to override a filibuster when all you need is one or two votes (which was most of the situation theoretically during that period). But they needed a lot more than one vote as it turned out, since they couldn't get their own party on board for many of these attempts without huge concessions.

I find it interesting how many people on Slashdot continue to blame Republicans and a successful and warranted use of the Senate filibuster for what really was a Democrat problem.
Re:Hey! by houghi · 2012-09-02 03:33 · Score: 2

As with any religion, it never is about what the book says, it is about what some people say the book says.

--
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
Re:Hey! by ClickOnThis · 2012-09-02 06:05 · Score: 3, Informative

It's worth recalling here that Obama used to be a birther himself and claimed he was born in Kenya for the purpose of selling some of his books (at least one of which he backed out of).
Wrong. Obama didn't claim he was born in Kenya. The brochure you and Breitbart are talking about was created by Obama's literary agent with bios of several of its clients. The "born in Kenya" part was a fact-checking error by Miriam Goderich, then an assistant at the agency. Goderich herself admits to the error.

--
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.

Some people like to brew beer as a hoby, so what? by theshowmecanuck · 2012-09-01 11:32 · Score: 5, Interesting

For those who bitch about this, if the president spent his money collecting stamps or collecting guitars I doubt you would you beat him up over it. But maybe you would: Oh sure he does or doesn't do XYZ, but he buys a Fender amp? You're evil Mr President; what a scumbag. Forget about it. So brewing beer, good for him. There are many people in America who like to brew their own beer. There's nothing wrong with it and nothing wrong with the president doing it on his own time either.

--
-- I ignore anonymous replies to my comments and postings.

Link to FOIA Request for Beer Recipe by theodp · 2012-09-01 11:34 · Score: 2

HuffPo: White House Beer Recipe: Freedom Of Information Act Request Filed For Obama's Brew

As far as hobbies go by Dyinobal · 2012-09-01 11:36 · Score: 3, Interesting

As far as hobbies go this one is pretty cool and even a bit nerdy. I've always wanted to brew my own beer, or make my own tequila and I don't even drink.

Re:As far as hobbies go by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-01 12:14 · Score: 5, Informative

Go for it!
I'm a former IT nerd turned nerdy brewer via homebrewing. The very basics are easy: you dump sugar into water, raise it to a boil, add hops, continue boiling for an hour, chill, dump the sugar water (wort) into a sanitized bucket, add yeast, wait a couple weeks, bottle with a small amount of sugar (for fizz)
And things go from there.
Some yeast strains work best below room temp, some at, some above (i.e., temperature control).
If you move to using base ingredients (malted grains) instead of sugars, you'll need more gadgets (malt mill, pump, thermometer, etc).
You can add or subtract flavours by using different yeast strains (usually phenols and esters), which moves into yeast culturing (chemistry and biology).
FWIW, all in, I can do something like Obama's beer in 3 hours. And in 2 or 3 weeks, be drinking something pretty decent.
And if I can make good beer, anyone can.
Re:As far as hobbies go by fm6 · 2012-09-01 12:29 · Score: 2

Well yeah. This dude is pretty much the most nerdy POTUS ever. When he was a kid, he collected Spider-Man comic books. When he first met Leonard Nimoy, he gave him a Vulcan salute. Nerd, nerd, nerd.
Re:As far as hobbies go by Patch86 · 2012-09-01 17:15 · Score: 2

Brewing is easy. I make wine all the time out of any fruit or vegetable that I come into possession of in large enough quantities. I find beer trickier, but I think that's just because I'm a picky ale drinker.
Distilling, on the other hand, is not (that's what you'd need to do to make a tequila). It's pretty dangerous in terms of exploding stills, pretty dangerous in terms of poisonous final product, and it's also probably illegal depending on your jurisdiction (in the UK, you need a licence). That's not to say don't do it, but it's a bit of a different ball game.

FINALLY, Slashdot! by 93+Escort+Wagon · 2012-09-01 11:39 · Score: 4, Insightful

We like to complain about which stories get posted, and which don't... butI think we can all agree - this qualifies as stuff that matters.

--
#DeleteChrome

Free beer as in free beer by CuteSteveJobs · 2012-09-01 11:41 · Score: 4, Funny

> Your tax dollars hard at work yet again!"

If they are going to serve beer in the Whitehouse it's much cheaper to brew it themselves then to buy it. About 30 cents for a 750 mil bottle holding the equivalent of two cans. They also don't have to pay the extortionate government sales tax on alcohol. Hey hang on...

http://taxfoundation.org:81/article/state-sales-gasoline-cigarette-and-alcohol-tax-rates-state-2000-2010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homebrewing

Beer & Wine Are Just Fine... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-01 11:52 · Score: 4, Informative

If home-made beer and wine are just fine in this day and age, why does distilling your own whiskey for your own use get you time in the federal prison system? I just want my "Awesome-Swill-From-Dawsonville" party-liquor each New Years without worrying about the BATFE...

Re:Beer & Wine Are Just Fine... by Deus.1.01 · 2012-09-01 14:15 · Score: 2

I trust people with licenses.
I'm just funny that way.

--
My -1 Troll is actually a +1 funny. And my -1 flame is actually a +1 insightfull.
Re:Beer & Wine Are Just Fine... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-01 15:56 · Score: 3, Insightful

Actually, it's pretty hard to brew beer or mead that can actually hurt you. Usually the mistakes just end up tasting like shit.
Re:Beer & Wine Are Just Fine... by Patch86 · 2012-09-01 17:22 · Score: 2

Because:
1) Stills can and do explode. In my part of the UK, illegal moonshine was a bit of a trend in my grandparent's generation, and they've got many a tale of exploding farm sheds.
2) Because it's easy to accidentally make poison if you don't do it just right (by brewing a high quantity of methanol or other non-edible alcohols instead of ethanol).
3) It's far more valuable when you're done, and you're less able to consume your entire output without outside help (selling home-brew is always illegal in the UK, but you're far less likely to try to sell your home-brew bramble wine than you are moonshine vodka).
For the record, it'll only land you in prison if you don't have a licence. In order to get a licence, you need to prove you're competent, that you're distilling safely, and that you're correctly reporting (and paying taxes on) all sales. Personally, I think that's a licensing scheme worth keeping...
Re:Beer & Wine Are Just Fine... by Hatta · 2012-09-02 02:22 · Score: 2

If beer and wine are just fine in this day and age, why does growing the much less harmful Cannabis for your own use get you time in the federal prison system?

--
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!

Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo by Shining+Celebi · 2012-09-01 11:56 · Score: 5, Informative

Obama promised a surge into Afghanistan. He promised an eventual pullout from Iraq, and it looks like he's following through - on Bush's schedule.

Congress shut down Obama's attempts to close Gitmo and forbade him from using any federal funds to do just about anything with it. While I wish he'd tried harder, he did attempt it. I'd be more concerned about the continued NSA wiretapping.

The President is not a dictator. People tend to radically overestimate how much the President can really do.

And yes, the same is true for Bush. Bush couldn't have gone to war without Congress. He couldn't have passed the Patriot Act without Congress. He couldn't have passed No Child Left Behind without Congress. He couldn't have racked up massive deficits without Congress. Heck, even today, virtually our entire deficit (that comes from government policy and not the recession) comes from the Bush tax cuts Congress (including Paul Ryan) passed and the wars.

Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo by Shining+Celebi · 2012-09-01 11:59 · Score: 4, Informative

Dang Slashdot without an edit button. I meant to include this link:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/US-Economy/PublishingImages/20120229_EssentialEcon9.jpg

It shows the sources of the current budget deficits. Keep in mind Paul Ryan, famed serious "fiscal conservative," voted for every single thing in green.

Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo by fm6 · 2012-09-01 11:59 · Score: 5, Insightful

Oh, give it a rest. You've been reciting the same Obama-bashing crap over and over for 4 years now, we've all heard it a dozen times. This conversation is about beer.

Reddit the other night by Riddler+Sensei · 2012-09-01 12:01 · Score: 2

Is this as per Obama's response to his Reddit appearance the other night?

Re:Yep, its election time by TheGratefulNet · 2012-09-01 12:07 · Score: 4, Insightful

you are missing the point.

it seems he's calling indirect attention to the mormon guy who is running as his opponent.

how many people can relate to those who are 100.0% against alcohol drinking?

seems a smart move on obama's part. and I kind of agree: I don't trust anyone who takes a prohibitionist view on what most of us think is perfectly fine behavior!

--

--
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."

Fishing for Tweets and Likes? by aNonnyMouseCowered · 2012-09-01 12:19 · Score: 3, Interesting

Where there are no burning issues at hand, human interest stories are a good tactic to keep a candidate in the news or at least in Twitterverse. Expect to learn more trivial, but harmless stuff like these "brewed" by the campaign strategists who work behind the scenes.

Somehow this only convinces me that come November a new occupant will fill that hopefully not empty Chair at the Oval Office.

Amazing by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-01 12:20 · Score: 2, Funny

Amazing what the government is able to accomplish now that they've got the budget balanced and a job for everyone that so desires.

Re:Some people like to brew beer as a hoby, so wha by Greyfox · 2012-09-01 12:21 · Score: 5, Funny

If I were President, I would collect dildos. I would collect them, and I would leave them in random places around the White House. But... That's why I'm where I'm at and Obama's where he's at. I'm sure collecting dildos never even occurred to him. I suppose I could ask him. He's in town tomorrow, fucking up my airspace. That's not code for anything, I literally can't fly until he leaves. So I have some time to kill.

Good beer, though, that's something we can all agree on. Well except Mitt Romney. Mormons aren't allowed to have beer. Or coffee. How you're supposed to go about having 5 wives without coffee is beyond me. I'm pretty sure you can't get through 4 years of a presidency without dropping the F bomb at least a couple times, as well, so good luck with that, Mormon-boy. Maybe collecting dildos and leaving them in random places around the White House would help.

--

I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

Beginner recipie by trout007 · 2012-09-01 12:23 · Score: 3, Informative

All of the extract and pellets make this a real beginners brew. They should really step up to all grain brewing. Much better flavor.

--
I love Jesus, except for his foreign policy.

Re:Some people like to brew beer as a hoby, so wha by fm6 · 2012-09-01 12:25 · Score: 5, Funny

... if the president spent his money collecting stamps or collecting guitars I doubt you would you beat him up over it.

Are you kidding? This President has been condemned as "elitist" for his choice of condiments.

Re:Some people like to brew beer as a hoby, so wha by fm6 · 2012-09-01 12:33 · Score: 4, Funny

Somehow I don't think you're ever going to be President.

Free as in ... by Nom+du+Keyboard · 2012-09-01 12:35 · Score: 2

At least this ought to help BHO understand the difference of Free as in Beer.

--
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."

Re:Yep, its election time by Type44Q · 2012-09-01 12:55 · Score: 2, Insightful

"Look at me, i drink beer just like joe sixpack. Vote for me"

disgusting pandering.

Close. The two elections before last were "Look at me, I'm an ignorant fool just like joe-bob sixpack. Vote for me"

This time it's "Look at me, I'm enjoy a good microbrewed ale like any normal, thinking person would. Vote for me"

where's the american ingredients? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-01 12:57 · Score: 2, Interesting

Perusing the ingredients:
Munich (germany) malt
Hallertauer (again, germany) hops
Kent Golding (UK) hops
Fuggles (UK) hops
Nottingham and Windsor dry yeasts are from Danstar (Canada) and mimic UK strains

I'm surprised they didn't make something with west coast hops & some of the liquid yeasts. The US keepst fantastic yeast banks at White Labs (California/Colorado) and Wyeast (Oregon).

Re:Yep, its election time by epiphani · 2012-09-01 13:00 · Score: 3, Interesting

Seriously? Dood can't brew beer in his spare time without it being politically motivated?

Timing might be politically motivated for releasing the recipe, but I highly doubt the beer is.

--
.

Thank you Jimmy Carter by shuz · 2012-09-01 13:29 · Score: 5, Informative

The leetist and best president ever!

Jimmy Carter, 39th President of the United States, signed the bill, H.R. 1337, into law in October 1978 legalizing home brewing. Bill 1337, can't make this stuff up folks. :-)

--
There is or can be built a machine that can simulate any physical object. -Church-Turing principle

Also don't worry too much about it by aliquis · 2012-09-01 13:31 · Score: 4, Informative

Swedish Vin & Sprit was also built with tax money.

It served us good but was sold in 2008 to Pernod Ricard (for 55 billion SEK = 8.31 billion USD with todays exchange rate, actually Wikipedia says 5.6 billion euro so I guess the SEK value was someones conversion.)

Their most well known brand is/was likely Absolut.

how radical is that? by slick7 · 2012-09-01 13:43 · Score: 4, Funny

Alcohol drinking Muslims. Is that true radicalism or an oxymoron?

--
The mind conceives, the body achieves, the spirit manifests.

Now, if we can just get .... by WindBourne · 2012-09-01 13:50 · Score: 2, Insightful

romney to release his tax forms. Then we can find out who is patriotic and who is not.

--
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.

Really? by __aaltlg1547 · 2012-09-01 14:10 · Score: 2

Sam Kass, White House Assistant Chef and the Senior Policy Advisor for Healthy Food Initiatives, after much buzz, today released the recipe for White House Honey Ale and White House Honey Porter...

I see what you did there.

Re:Yep, its election time by Revotron · 2012-09-01 14:12 · Score: 3, Insightful

"i'm a hip cool new President. I use Blackberries and Twitter and Reddit and I brew my own beer. I'm just like all you young impressionable voters. Hey, look, we're open-sourcing the White House website! Open source is cool, right? Hey, who wants some free stuff? Young people like free stuff, right? How about healthcare? You guys don't understand any of it so have some for free. Naw, I promise, it's just as good as the other stuff. And nevermind who's paying, you guys don't make enough yet to worry about that..."

Still waiting for President Obama to show up to a convention wearing Converses and empty Rayban frames while he gives a speech ironically.

Re:Yep, its election time by VortexCortex · 2012-09-01 14:16 · Score: 3, Insightful

how many people can relate to those who are 100.0% against alcohol drinking?

Man, they believe Jesus visited the Americas, and when they die they'll get to (literally) fucking populate a planet (if they're the chosen ones)... And not drinking beer is the "weird" part? Uhm. I would have point out the Christians believe in Sky Wizards and Magic Zombies, but the Mormons do too. Mormon = Xenu + Jesus (where you get to be Xenu). For the record, I'm not picking on Mormans or other religious folk. I take all religions as seriously as any other; Take Greek Mythology for example: Where's the candidate for Athena? Aphrodite? Ah, Now there's a candidate I could really get behind.

Re:What is white house honey? by Deus.1.01 · 2012-09-01 14:23 · Score: 3, Informative

They do actually...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/06/23/secret-life-white-house-bees

--
My -1 Troll is actually a +1 funny. And my -1 flame is actually a +1 insightfull.

Beer is good food! by kimanaw · 2012-09-01 14:44 · Score: 2

Massive doses of B vitamins, purified water (you know fish breed in that stuff ?), yeast hulls, and reduced stress levels.

Alas, as a Libertarian, Mssr. Obama's socialist leanings disallow me from voting for him, but I applaud his choice of quality beverage. Perhaps a good pint of Pliney, or a Firestone Parabola, or Black Butte XXIV, will clear his mind. I'd be happy to volunteer a pint of my excellent Saison or Belgian Quad if it will end America's perpetual war on "whoever we're trying to kill at the moment:"

(Have no fear, I have no such delusions that Mssr. Romney will be swayed by a friendly magic pint - mores the pity...)

--
007: "Who are you?"
Pussy: "My name is Pussy Galore."
007: "I must be dreaming..."

No caffeine at BYU by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-01 14:56 · Score: 2, Informative

Gotta go off campus several blocks to the 7-11/Circle K. Significant disciplinary offense to get caught bringing it on campus.

if you go to philly by ganjadude · 2012-09-01 15:11 · Score: 4, Informative

If you go to philly, you can go to the "bar" where the revolution was "planned." at this location, you can get the beer recipies that were brewed by washington, jefferson, adams, and franklin (washingtons was the best IMO - franklins tasted like pine needles)

--
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same

Re:if you go to philly by Creepy · 2012-09-02 15:23 · Score: 2

Seriously, IPA is predominantly a recent fad. The reason India Pale Ales were created was so that they would survive the trip from Britain to India without refrigeration. Hops traditionally were used as a preservative - in fact, many beers brewed for immediate consumption didn't use them at all. Hops became more common for flavoring beer in the 1800s.
Oh, and to the pine needle flavor below, that was not an uncommon flavoring. There are still Belgian beers that have been brewed for hundreds of years that use them (some don't use hops, either).

Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo by FitForTheSun · 2012-09-01 15:15 · Score: 2

I think Bush definitely could have gone to war without Congress. He would have suffered a bit of criticism, but he could have done it. Remember, technically he never went to war, he just deployed troops; we haven't declared war on anybody since WWII. Both of the two Bushes each tried to go to war without Congress, then Congress complained, so they took a side-trip to Congress on the way to war. That was perfunctory of them, but nobody would have stopped them if they hadn't done so. Don't you think?

I think Obama could have fought harder to close Gitmo, but it was a boondoggle. He was suddenly faced with the difficult reality of what the fuck to do with a handfull of really pissed off terrorists. You can't kill them, you can't release them, you can't try them, and nobody is willing to take them. The one option is that he could have opened a new facility, also outside of the US, and put them there. That would have been a purely symbolic move, a total waste of time and money -- but I think he should have done exactly that.

Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo by jd2112 · 2012-09-01 15:19 · Score: 2

Congress shut down Obama's attempts to close Gitmo and forbade him from using any federal funds to do just about anything with it. While I wish he'd tried harder, he did attempt it. I'd be more concerned about the continued NSA wiretapping. The President is not a dictator. People tend to radically overestimate how much the President can really do.

He could sit on his hands and not approve any legislation until it was shut down. Perhaps he would get overridden from time to time, but it would send a clear message.

Here's an idea, Congress not passing any legislation in protest of the President not approving any legislation!

--
Any insufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology.

Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo by steeviant · 2012-09-01 15:26 · Score: 3, Funny

Just don't ask about Gitmo

Are they brewing beer at Gitmo as well? (is waterboarding just "soaking the malts"?)

Mmmm beerboarding.

Nor should anyone care by Sycraft-fu · 2012-09-01 15:32 · Score: 4, Insightful

The President is an expensive office. There is a shit ton of money spent on keeping the person in it safe, happy, connected, getting them where they need to go, and so on. The cost of brewing some beer wouldn't even stack up to the salary of a single Secret Service agent, never mind the cost of running something like Air Force One.

There is no real way around it either. Security costs are going to be extremely high because the President is a very high profile target. So you need good security keeping them safe. Some might argue that a lot of the pomp and circumstance should be cut out which would save a bunch but then you have to remember that the President is not just the head of government but also the chief of state, they are the head diplomat. All that pomp and circumstance plays a very useful role in international relations.

So frankly they can charge the cost of brewing beer to the taxpayers, I don't mind at all. It is an expensive office to maintain and there really isn't any other way it can be so long as the US maintains its place of prominence among nations.

Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo by Enderandrew · 2012-09-01 15:53 · Score: 2

The President can not deploy troops for more than 90 days without Congress approving it. So even when it isn't called war, the President can't go to war with a country without Congress backing it and financing it.

--
http://blindscribblings.com - Tasty pop-culture in conceptual fashion.

Re:Just don't ask about Gitmo by zill · 2012-09-01 16:58 · Score: 2

A clear message that he's a door mat? You do realize that any bill not signed or vetoed within ten days automatically becomes law, right?

Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution:

If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Re:Obama consisgtently drinking beer ... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-01 18:02 · Score: 2, Insightful

And yet, it is in much better shape then when he inherited it.

Re:Yep, its election time by Hognoxious · 2012-09-01 18:07 · Score: 2

How about "And what would a muslim want beer for, anyway?"

--
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."

Re:not all grain? by I_am_Jack · 2012-09-01 18:36 · Score: 2

All grain, while being superior to extract in the way you can build a very sophisticated flavor profile with a well-thought grain bill, takes a fair amount of work. I usually have to spend the better part of a day brewing an all-grain batch. I assume that as they're trying to run the country, especially in an election year, a 60 minute extract boil versus a mash-sparge time of approaching four hours, plus a 90 minute boil makes more sense.

Slashdot Mirror

Ale To the Chief: White House Releases Beer Recipe

72 of 340 comments (clear)