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Twitter Based "Ted" System Warns of Earthquakes Earlier

hypnosec writes "A Twitter-based system managed to detect the earthquake off the Philippines before any other advanced spotting systems being used by Seismologists. The U.S. Geological Survey uses the micro-blogging site to quickly gather information about earthquakes around the globe through the use of a system — Twitter Earthquake Detection (TED) — which beat out USGS's own sensors on Friday when it came to detecting a 7.6 magnitude earthquake off the Philippine coast. The TED system gathers earthquake related messages (Tweets) in real time from Twitter. The system takes into consideration various parameters like place, time, keywords, and photographs of affected places where tremors have been detected. Online information posted by people — Tweets, in this case — can be picked up faster by researchers, compared to scientific alerts that may take up to 20 minutes."

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  1. Looks like another XKCD that works by spaceplanesfan · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Looks like another XKCD that works by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      I'd be worried more about the timing...

      On August 31st, Twitter became self aware and launched an earthquake in the Philippines to incite a counterattack against the humans, who in panic, tried to log on to Facebook.

      Be afraid.

      Be very afraid.

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  2. the downside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is that if you get 50k Anonymous, you'll end up with enough false positives to make the system useless.

    On the other hand, having idiots tweet prior to taking shelter can only improve the species.

    1. Re:the downside by bennomatic · · Score: 2

      I was thinking a twitter flashmob in this context could have interesting repercussions..

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  3. Confusing data and information by vlm · · Score: 2

    Confusing data and information.

    The number of tweets with the word "earthquake" in them is a raw piece of data.

    A USGS trained analytical geologists opinion of magnitude / depth / time is much higher level information and is going to take a couple minutes at least to think about it. I suppose if the on duty guy is in the can when a earthquake starts, or even worse if you have two guys who start arguing before one finally calls the boss to resolve the fight....

    The standard /. automotive analogy is that a bunch of tweeter twits will always be the first to "report" a car crash. It'll take a couple hours at least for the accident investigation team to gather all the legal evidence, and at least days until a judge / jury convicts. I'm sure the twits are always going to be faster than Judge Dredd or whoever.

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    1. Re:Confusing data and information by catmistake · · Score: 2

      A USGS trained analytical geologists opinion...

      yeah... but buddy, geology isn't a trade, per se... geologists aren't so much "trained" as they are, uh... educated... and generally, it isn't the USGS that is educating them so much as they are, uh... employing them.

      You have no idea what you're talking about... geologist are born. A friend of my cousin's was drafted by the USGS, trained at Top Rock, and did 2 tours in the Grand Canyon, and saw a lot of interesting sediment, so I know what I'm talking about!

      On March 3, 1879 the United States Geological Survey established an elite school for the top one percent of its geologists. Its purpose was to teach the lost art of earth's physical structure and substance, its history, and the processes that act on it and to insure that the handful of men who graduated were the best geologists in the world. They succeeded. Today, the USGS calls it the Department of Geology (found at various universities). The geologists call it: TOP ROCK.

      Iceman: You two really are rockboys.

      Maverock: What's your problem, Cavenski?

      Iceman: You're everyone's problem. That's because every time you go down in the cave, you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're dangerous.

      Maverock: That's right! Ice... man. I am dangerous.

  4. Fail whale, anyone? by multicoregeneral · · Score: 2

    Twitter crashes when it's overloaded. Earthquakes, and events like it cause a high enough amount of traffic to bring twitter down. People's lives depend on earthquake information systems. What happens if there's an earthquake at the same time as a Kardashian sex video? Or a Politician saying something stupid at a convention? We're all screwed then.

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  5. I don't see much point in this by Y-Crate · · Score: 4, Informative

    It will only report quakes that are already over. News reports, online reporting "Did You Feel It?" pages, etc already do a pretty good job of telling seismologists that something just happened.

    Valuable earthquake detection would be detecting the P-Wave from a quake in progress, and automatically broadcasting a SAME Code, combined with some kind of equivilent forcibly pushed to every cell phone connected to a tower. Japan has something like this already. California is kinda, sorta working on it, but I'm pretty sure it's grossly underfunded and not really a priority.

    Earthquake models suggest a quake on the northern or southern reaches of the San Andreas fault would reach Los Angeles in about 40 seconds. That's actually a huge chunk of time.

    Let's assume:

    - 20 seconds to detect a quake / automatically crosscheck with multiple sensors and transmit a warning to a predefined area.

    - 5 to 10 seconds for devices to receive, decode and go into alert mode. Weather radios are always listening for SAME transmissions and can decode more or less instantly (assuming the user has programmed in their location). Cell networks could probably get the data there in the time it takes for a regular text message to arrive.

    - That gives you 10 to 15 seconds to pull your car over, stop doing delicate surgery, stop fixing your roof, etc and find something to crawl under. It also gives you time to trigger automated fail safes. Gas valves can be set to close, emergency generators can be spun-up, fire pumps can activate, elevators can go to their recall floors and hold their doors open, while fire station doors can roll-up on their own and lock in place.

  6. Re:Sounds like the same principle as Google Trends by buchner.johannes · · Score: 2

    Yes it is, because Google Trends only analyses the past; connecting it to something useful, like an alert system, is something new. Unless you go extreme, but then every idea is based on something, so no idea is really new.

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  7. Japan by fullback · · Score: 2

    There is a system in Japan where we get a flash of information on TV even before we feel a strong earthquake. I had a few seconds to brace before many of the hundreds of aftershocks after the large 9 Magnitude quake last March 11. Obviously, the warning time depends on how far you are from the epicenter.