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Iran and North Korea Team Up To Fight State-Sponsored Malware
An anonymous reader writes, quoting the article: "At the start of this month, news broke that Iran and North Korea have strengthened their ties, specifically by signing a number of cooperation agreements on science and technology. The two states signed the pact on Saturday, declaring that it represented a united front against Western powers. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran's Supreme Leader, told Kim Yong Nam, North Korea's ceremonial head of state, the two countries have common enemies and aligned goals. On Monday, security firm F-Secure weighed in on the discussion. The company believes Iran and North Korea may be interested in collaborating against government-sponsored malware attacks such as Duqu, Flame, and Stuxnet."
thank goodness, like the fantastic four. now only if they would team up to fight nuclear nonproliferation! like atom man and fallout boy.
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I'm guessing that was an unintended consequence of those malware programs. Unless there's an advantage I don't see with Iran and North Korea strengthening ties.
Yawn.
You think 1930s Germany and Italy working together was bad. This totally freaks me out.
If you think it was any better as a kid, you might want to quit huffing aerosol products long enough for a near-past history lesson.
The only difference was it was much harder to find out about this kind of stuff in the past, and when you did it was often because journalists or whistleblowers put their career or life on the line to do so (not that that part is necessarily any different, just that the information can be disseminated without them HAVING to. Now whether it's credible without an acknowledged source is another matter.
If you hate the US so much why are you using one of it's greatest achievements? (the internet)
Get your popcorn. It's time to be reminded Americans are all fat and lazy warmongering idiots, are responsible for every single hardship, and are so biased and place every other nations in stereotypes. But it's okay, /all/ Americans are like that.
I hate the Nazi's too, but I (and I believe you) do enjoy some of their greatest accomplishments. In others words, there is nothing wrong with using someone's greatest accomplishments and at the time condemning them for their worst accomplishments.
The Blunder Team has clawed its way out of Hell and it's coming for you, USA
Considering all the trade and economical sanction, and the collapsed economy, where does North Korea get its computers from? People in that country are starving, and they cannot afford computers. That reduces the talent pool for the malware defence team. Also I don't think communism ethos is compatible with hacker culture, so the people who get to use computers are as thick as wooden planks...
Out of curiosity: which Nazi innovations am I using right now?
If you hate the US so much why are you using one of it's greatest achievements? (the internet)
The internet??? I thought you were talking about Slashdot.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
Launch vehicles, if you use any satellite tech at all. Also some medical experiments could be added to the list of Nazi tech we all use every day.
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the enemy of my enemy is my friend who has a BSOD just like mine
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Out of curiosity: which Nazi innovations am I using right now?
I'm pretty sure they made up the word "Nazi", which you just used.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I am actually hoping that it is impossible for Nazi Germany to have not contributed to something every person uses today. Of the top my head, I am thinking Rockets (and technology build over it), I remember magnetic tape (audio tape), turbine engines, microwave cooking, some medicines (sorry I dont have names or sources).
Oh, to be a fly on the wall when those two get together one weekend to install FreeBSD for the first time.
A lot of medical advancements were to do Nazi studies that could never be done with modern medical ethics. One example is hyperthermia, they would put prisoners in ice water then put then outside in the cold and monitor their body stats. In the process, they learned to revive someone in such a state.
Many of them are covered while I was in med school, at least they were when I went ('00-'04), with big disclaimers of course. No one likes using the info because of the way it was acquired, but there is no current safe, ethical, way to do many of them and the info is too valuable.
but this does not mean that enemies are just made up hoaxes
the venom from north korea and iran is real. just ask a japanese, or a syrian
this is where you lecture me on how these are peace loving harmless countries that have been turned into monsters, just to slake a thirst to spend money by an industrial complex in the usa
you know, there are actually real breathing human beings in north korea and iran who think and have their own ideas, completely of their own will and independent volition. some of their ideas come from concepts they dearly believe that are older than the united states' existence. not just cardboard cut out reflections of some western propaganda from decades ago from a dead cold war era. maybe you should conceptionalize the fantasty that there exists real people outside the usa with their own agenda that did not start in washington dc
some of them have agendas that carry some malice for peace on this earth, not just malice for the economies of the west. what they believe and think is their own original creation, and may require defeat on a battlefield
i say that not because i love drinking oil from the skulls of dead children, or whatever nonsense you believe about someone like myself who would say such a thing, but because i understand, unlike you, that menace does not only flow from one place in the world, and the usa is not the only country with a military industrial complex
in fact, if you want to see the most complete representation of the idea of a military industrial complex controlling a country in all avenues of power, try pyongyang. tehran, not so much, but the revolutionary guard there is trying its best to defang the mullahs and be more of a direct military industrial complex dominating a country, just like pyongyang
so if you oppose the idea of the military industrial complex, you oppose north korea. unless your supposed principles are not so much real principles, just a thin veneer for the same old tired tribalism of hating a country or nationality such as the usa just out of the same old tired empty chest thumping avarice you believe you are above somehow?
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
The first programmable computer was created in Nazi Germany, and so was the first inflatable doll. Considering you're here, there's a good chance you're using both right now.
Germany's innovations during the war were amazing. They had many advances the Allies couldn't dream of (like night vision, for instance, and there were a few battles were they used tanks while their adversary had horses)... Point is, technology isn't everything, and there's nothing wrong in admitting someone evil did something that helped humanity - it doesn't make them a better person, what matters for that is their intention.
And if it weren't for trying to break Nazi crypto, the Allies probably wouldn't have invented computers as we know them.
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he didn't they and they didn't because someone, somewhere, opposed them. their visions were not fulfilled because they were not in an environment of no effective opposition, like, say 1930s economically devastated germany
so: do you think the cliques in power in tehran and north korea should be opposed? if not, why not?
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Why are the US and UK so surprised? In 1941 the USA declared Communism (and Russia) an enemy of the state. In WW2 they used the Russian infantry for most of ground-combat against the Nazis.
It's all pretty funny really. They have malware because they're heavy uses of American Software. ie They NEED their hated enemy to make their software.
Don't forget about grammar.
Anytime you done wrote a complete sentence with proper grammar means the grammar Nazis have won.
This is like two clinically brain damaged boxers, one with delusions of grandeur, the other with terminal paranoia, both apoplectic with grotesque rage, each reeling and barely able to stand, stammering and slurring the simplest verbalizations, unable to sign their own names or feed themselves, hands shaking so badly they can't wee on their own without soaking the whole bathroom, bumping gloves and (attempting to unsteadily) stand together, thinking "NOW we'll show the bastards!".
I doubt this is going to strike fear into the champ. Might make him determined to really stomp both of them the next time all three enter the ring, though.
I could see an ironic twist to all of this. Iran and North Korea could end up pooling all of their resources and make really cutting-edge antivirus and antimalware software. We've seen other countries put government money behind a problem (ie. Japan funded research to make better car factories) and solve it in this way. And when Iran and North Korea make this wonderful new software the rest of the world might just line up to to buy it. Who knows what else they will innovate. We could be creating a monster here!
the topic of the fucking story you are posting under?
where did i say anything about shedding blood asshole? i said OPPOSE. what does the verb "oppose" mean nitwit?
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
This will probably make their cyber defense efforts easier to infiltrate.
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Yes, AC, of course... I know I shouldn't, but just a wee snack. As an American, I'm not very proud of the stupid things my government has done, for... oh, let's say the last 12 years or so. I voted against all of it, as did most of my friends, but its my country and I feel responsible when it screws up, even when it did it against my wishes or blessing (I'm guessing parents must feel this way about wayward children.)
That doesn't make America a bad place or Americans evil (well not all of us :-) There is plenty of dirty rotten to go around and some of the dirtiest and most rotten is coming from large monied interests in Western and Central Europe. The Saudis have been exporting the worst kind of Islamic poison for decades now. China has always been one of the top manufacturers of the most viscous weapons for international sale including mines designed to look like toys that children bring home and then explode killing the entire family. Like I said, there's plenty of rotten to go around. Fact is, wherever you find money grubbing, greedy, grind babies up for a buck scumbags, you find the kind of nasty I'm talking about, and sadly this in not a conversation limited by geography. There is sadly an abundance of human toxic waste on this planet and my guess is that I could find a couple examples of such talking with the same accent speak with, so hate America all you want, just remember, that we haven't got anything resembling a corner on the market of evil fscks.
Yeah, if you're doing anything that involves a satellite, there's some Nazi tech. Your country is holding back the dogs of war with nukes that contain Nazi tech. If you ever did anything that involved hypothermia, you have Dr. Mengele to thank, of course he got that very useful information by freezing hundred of Jews to death, which while useful makes it one of the hardest won pieces of medical information ever collected and forever Mengele a scumbag of monumental proportions.
In fact the Nazis were brilliant engineers and there are literally thousands of improvements in motors, cars, trains, heavy machinery, factories and engineering and applied sciences that are a permanent part of everything we do. That doesn't mean they weren't barbaric. It does mean that they produced some amazing technology in the headlong race to self destruction. Hmmmm, sound at all familiar?
I wish I had not posted in this thread. I would mod both of your posts up if I could. Excellent points.
What are they possibly going to do? They are outgunned in every respect - technologically, economically, and militarily by everyone who won't put up with their shit. Pre-WWII Germany had built itself back up to a manufacturing and academic (well, before they chased out the jewish PhDs) powerhouse. Meanwhile we've got the Mullahs afraid that people might actually learn things while at university and a North Korean populace that is reduced to eating grass every 10 years or so. Comparing Iran and North Korea to pre-war Nazi Germany doesn't even pass the belly laugh test.
Did you even see the ludicrous North Korean attempt at a supposed satellite launch? What about the photoshopped missile launch test from Iran?
Compare and contrast to the years between WWII and Yeltsin shelling Parliament when I would see maps in the Providence Journal of what would happen if a nuclear warhead detonated over Quonset Point Naval Air Station - an actual, credible, threat. That's what gets me about this "war on terrorism" and "axis of evil" bullshit which chews up trillions of dollars and ruins soldiers' lives for few actual results over imaginary threats to the US. We're supposed to soil our underwear over some technologically backwards regimes who don't even have actual long-range missiles and their medium range missiles leave much to be desired?
You want cyberwar? How about "accidentally" "dragging an anchor" over an undersea cable in the Persian Gulf or off the coast of North Korea? Because that's what our response is going to be if Iran and North Korea become offensive with malware botnets and they can do fuck-all about it. It's not like it hasn't happened before.
Threat? Please.
What fucking threat?
The people playing up this "threat" of Iran and North Korea are a bunch of pants-wetters and chickenhawks with only one thing in mind - making money off the unjustified fear and advancing the ideologies of PNAC and FPI banging the drums for boots-on-the-ground war with Iran and probably NK. Dan Senor isn't exactly a "potted plant" to take a term from Ollie North's lawyer.
Oh yeah, and guess who Dan Senor works for?
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that we manage to get an atheist state and a theocracy in bed with one other.
The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the 'social sciences' is: some do, some don't
What the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran are most interest on is not about malware
They are most interested on developing super-sonic anti-ship torpedoes ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval ) which employs Russia's Supercavitation technology ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation )
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
the venom from north korea and iran is real. just ask a japanese ....
Say what??
Ask Japanese about the Koreans?
For Your Information, it was the Japanese who invaded Korea multiple times throughout history
Not the other way around
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
North Korea has already developed an unbreakable defence against cyber attacks: they don't have internet or computers strong enough to run a modern virus.
In related news.. no one was surprised that the master password to the top secret PRK government networks is 1-2-3-4-5. Iran couldn't be reached for comment but was seen to be changing the combinations on all the official state luggage.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -HLM
Nobody Seems To Notice and Nobody Seems To Care - Government & Stealth Malware
In Response To Slashdot Article: Former Pentagon Analyst: China Has Backdoors To 80% of Telecoms 87
How many rootkits does the US[2] use officially or unofficially?
How much of the free but proprietary software in the US spies on you?
Which software would that be?
Visit any of the top freeware sites in the US, count the number of thousands or millions of downloads of free but proprietary software, much of it works, again on a proprietary Operating System, with files stored or in transit.
How many free but proprietary programs have you downloaded and scanned entire hard drives, flash drives, and other media? Do you realize you are giving these types of proprietary programs complete access to all of your computer's files on the basis of faith alone?
If you are an atheist, the comparison is that you believe in code you cannot see to detect and contain malware on the basis of faith! So you do believe in something invisible to you, don't you?
I'm now going to touch on a subject most anti-malware, commercial or free, developers will DELETE on most of their forums or mailing lists:
APT malware infecting and remaining in BIOS, on PCI and AGP devices, in firmware, your router (many routers are forced to place backdoors in their firmware for their government) your NIC, and many other devices.
Where are the commercial or free anti-malware organizations and individual's products which hash and compare in the cloud and scan for malware for these vectors? If you post on mailing lists or forums of most anti-malware organizations about this threat, one of the following actions will apply: your post will be deleted and/or moved to a hard to find or 'deleted/junk posts' forum section, someone or a team of individuals will mock you in various forms 'tin foil hat', 'conspiracy nut', and my favorite, 'where is the proof of these infections?' One only needs to search Google for these threats and they will open your malware world view to a much larger arena of malware on devices not scanned/supported by the scanners from these freeware sites. This point assumed you're using the proprietary Microsoft Windows OS. Now, let's move on to Linux.
The rootkit scanners for Linux are few and poor. If you're lucky, you'll know how to use chkrootkit (but you can use strings and other tools for analysis) and show the strings of binaries on your installation, but the results are dependent on your capability of deciphering the output and performing further analysis with various tools or in an environment such as Remnux Linux. None of these free scanners scan the earlier mentioned areas of your PC, either! Nor do they detect many of the hundreds of trojans and rootkits easily available on popular websites and the dark/deep web.
Compromised defenders of Linux will look down their nose at you (unless they are into reverse engineering malware/bad binaries, Google for this and Linux and begin a valuable education!) and respond with a similar tone, if they don't call you a noob or point to verifying/downloading packages in a signed repo/original/secure source or checking hashes, they will jump to conspiracy type labels, ignore you, lock and/or shuffle the thread, or otherwise lead you astray from learning how to examine bad binaries. The world of Linux is funny in this way, and I've been a part of it for many years. The majority of Linux users, like the Windows users, will go out of their way to lead you and say anything other than pointing you to information readily available on detailed binary file analysis.
Don't let them get you down, the information is plenty and out there, some from some well known publishers of Linux/Unix books. Search, learn, and share the information on detecting and picking through bad binaries. But this still will not touch the void of the APT malware described above which will survive any wipe of r/w media. I'm convinced, on both *nix and Windows, these pieces of APT malware
But 2 of the EVILESTEST countries in the WHOLE WORLD corroborating to DEFEND THEMSELVES is provocation enough! The time for talk is over! We need to stop IRAN from threatening the peace of the world. It's too late for invasion, we MUST make IRAN the ultimate sacrifice!
They should buy out McAfee. Everyone already hates McAfee so it'd be a perfect fit. By the way, nobody in human history has teamed up to stop malware in any form ever. They'd have to fire all their human employees and get rid of all their computers, lol.
HaHaHaHaHaHa
While I'm all for throwing a monkey wrench in Iran's nuclear program, having used techniques like this legitimizes and raises awareness of them to an extent, and I would suggest that the US may be far more vulnerable to such techniques in the long run. I do wonder if it was a good idea....
It's all pretty funny really. They have malware because they're heavy uses of American Software. ie They NEED their hated enemy to make their software.
I dont think they actually need their enemies to make their software, but they use it because it exists and is available.
Hello,
It is interesting in reading the article and comments here on Slashdot that no one has talked about the effect cooperation between Iran and North Korea would have on either accelerating the pace of malicious software deployed against these nation-states, or even worse, the use of other means to combat their nuclear ambitions.
The Stuxnet worm was designed to target a single specific network. Yes, it spread in other ways, but the payload it deployed would was engineered so that it would only work on the Natanz nuclear facility's network. That is an insane level of precision and it clearly shows the huge investment made by the attacker(s) to ensure that this "cyberweapon" could only be triggered by the correct environmental conditions. It costs money to develop the targeting, payload and telemetry systems to support that, and the attacker(s) are only going to make that type of investment in what has to have been a highly-speculative "cyberweapon" if they believe they are going to get some value out of it.
The value in malicious software like this (as well as in commercial spyware offerings, like FinFisher) is in their ability to perform without being detected by anti-malware software. As soon as that happens, the malicious software no longer has any value. The attacker may attempt to update their malicious software for a few generations, but once they are on the radar of anti-malware companies, samples of the new variants will make their way to the researchers at the anti-malware companies, possibly with metadata or telemetry that allows the point of origin to be identified. Which is not so good for plausible deniability. It is also possible that the countermeasures introduced to foil detection by anti-malware programs will introduce unforeseen errors into the malicious program, simply because it was not as fully tested as the original attack.
If one is to believe that the Stuxnet worm was jointly-created by the United States and Israeli to (1) degrade Iran's nuclear ambitions; and (2) as a means of delaying an attack by Israel on Iran than one has to wonder about what sort of options are to be considered if malicious software is no longer an option.
From the defender's point of view, Iran's response to the Flame malware was probably the most effective thing they could do to combat it: The Iranian CERT blasted out copies of it to anti-malware companies around the world, ensuring that detection would be added in a matter of hours. Anti-malware companies add detection of malicious software sent to them; that's what they do, after all.
The idea that an anti-malware company would not add detection for a threat because it may have been created by or used by a governmentâ"or they were told not to by their governmentâ"does not hold water. While anti-malware software may be thought of as an American or Western European creation, there are plenty of anti-malware companies in South America, the Middle East, Asia, Eastern Europe and other parts of the globe, and any anti-malware company that did not add detection for such a threat would be subject to speculation and scrutiny about why. It would be a tacit admission by the country the anti-malware company operated in that their government was responsible for the malware.
Maintaining plausible deniability means not blocking or otherwise interfering with the detection of malware by anti-malware companies, and when they respond to a threat in hours that may have taken weeks, months or even years to develop, well, you start looking for other ways to get more bang for your buck. My fear is the emphasis will be on the bang.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
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The two most backward nations, totally reliant on imported technology for everything, join hands on technology. To do what exactly? Getter better deals on German equipment by placing their orders together?
You also got to wonder how this alliance will work. One hates religion, the other hates communism. A marriage made in heaven!
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
They get them from China. The elite are very well off, it's very similar as to how it was in England and whatever other country American emigrated from. The factory workers are broke, poor and downtrodden but the farmers and the elite? You know, they get massive subsidies and bailouts and a few decades of luxury. And if you're in politics, you get even more privileges like state funded medical care.
Don't worry though, through years of TV watching, they teach their subjects that the socialists are out to steal their American Dream.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Japan DID put government funds into its industry and that was the start of the Asian tigers.
And wonderful software from Iran and North Korea? Two of the most backward nations in the world where anyone who uses his/her brain is just a suspect? HA!
The only reason these two countries have such problem with malware is that they have to use western software and hardware and don't have the know how to install and maintain it.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
To back up your points, 27C3: Adventures in analyzing Stuxnet (Bruce Dang from Microsoft). An amazing video where Bruce gives a blow by blow account of the discovery of Stuxnet and the measures that were taken to close the holes it exploited.
It's "Nazis", not "Nazi's". Apostrophe's indicate a contraction or possession. It's like writing "Do you like the American's?"
Their antivirus software will be developed on a network of 15,000 TRS-80 and Sinclair PCs.
The code will be written in Cobol and Fortran.
They will become experts at the previous generation of every malware package.
Well, I think this makes it pretty clear what kind of people the Iranian regime consists of. Anyone who is prepared to ally itself with North Korea, the greatest gangster -1984 nightmare- regime in the world, loses all credibility in my book.
They have malware because they're heavy uses of American Software.
Stuxnet came first and it was highly targeted at specific hardware configurations that would only be found in Iranian nuclear facilities.
I don't think it would have mattered what software the Iranians had installed,
since the (alleged) American/Israeli coders had all the time in the world to replicate the setup and probe for exploits.
The problem isn't American software, it's that flaws will creep into the most carefully crafted code.
Even the OSS theory that 'given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow' hasn't prevented exploits from lingering in Linux code for years.
tldr version: They have malware because people are trying to hack them.
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someone who misrepresents someone else's position is what in your dictionary?
i'm not a warmongerer. i'm saying to say north korea and iran represent no threat is stupid. do you see the difference? i said it elsewhere:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3091717&cid=41220345
so don't misrepresent what i said
if i call you silly stupid and uneducated for thinking these nations represent no threat it does not automatically follow the solution is to wage war. this is you inserting an assumption about me and my position that only exists in your head
do you understand?
i don't want to attack these countries. at the same time, i'm not going to sit here and listen to some moron say these countries are not a threat. any country that hypermilitarizes and issues bellicose warning for decades is obviously a threat
i'm afraid to tell you the sky is blue. you might attack me for not citing it. pffffffffffft
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
You mean:
"Anytime you done wrote a complete sentence with proper grammar means the grammar Nazis of won."
Way to go geniuses, you just made the Axis of Evil (tm) the good guys.
All they need to do is release their findings to the public.
oh, and they should totally team up with Anonymous...
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
We now force our enemies to do for operating systems what our [friendly? domestic?] operating system suppliers should have done! Can't wait for my windows 8 North Korean version to go into beta!
SLASHDOT: news for people who can't concentrate on work or have no life at all and got tired of yelling back at the TV.
Others have already made good points here.
Satellites and space stuff? Launch systems as we know them are largely the work of von Braun's team. Nazi tech!
Computers? The Z3 was not a particularly elegant machine, but it was the first programmable Turing-complete computer. Back in 1941. A good thing for the war that the Nazi leadership denied funding to upgrade the machine.
How about jet aircraft? The He 178 was the first one to fly. Designed by whom? Oh yeah, Nazis.
The StG 44 assault rifle made by the same damn Nazis was a new designed that influenced both the AK47 and M16. Speaking of weapons, the first military night vision device? Yep, also used by the Nazis and developed in Germany. Or how about their engineers making the first proper radar?
Things aren't as simple as saying the Nazis were horrible and lost the war, thus they provided no useful legacy. They had brilliant engineers and more than a few modern technologies contain innovations developed by Germany during that time. And that's not even considering the innovations that were later developed in the USA but by scientists brought over in Operation Paperclip.
the turbine engine was invented in england actually.
magnetic tape, correct.
rockets??? try ancient china.
The USA offered 4 Billion in food aid to North Korea to quit a nuclear program many times and the politicians never intended to follow through "A spineless obligation" they would have just sent over contaminated food anyway to kill the part of the population.
Iran have the right to Nuclear Power and are actually extremely well managed. They actually have a right to defend themselves against malware and people in North Korea and Iran are awesome coders.It is all war threats and UK are complicit in this issue.
As many people on /. know a true hacker tends to work alone and hand crafting code is one time thing and sending a one time malformed deep packet inspection that Carnivore, Magic Lantern are not up to speed with or GCHQ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/9192209/GCHQ-warns-it-is-losing-terrorists-on-the-internet.html is a little insight
I am not connected to any terrorism group blah blah but I am a true hacker who prefers not to put technology in the hands of dangerous people as Sir Arthur C Clarke said don't do it, when I was at his place in Cinnamon Gardens Sri Lanka as some of his inventions were used for all the wrong reasons.
He was a friend of Einstein and so is Sir Patrick Moore who is a wonderful chap :) I suppose people should take a leaf out of what Sir Bertrand Russell said and that was "This idea of weapons of mass extermination is utterly horrible and is something which no one with one spark of humanity can tolerate. I will not pretend to obey a government which is organising a mass massacre of mankind".
Can you see where this is leading? and his other quote was "“The moral think I would wish to say is very simple: love is wise – hatred is foolish.
In this world, which is getting more and more closely interconnected, we have to learn to tolerate each other; we have to learn to put up with the fact that some people say things that we don’t like.
We can only live together in that way, if we are to live together and not die together. We must learn the kind of charity and the kind of tolerance which is absolutely vital to the continuation of human life on this planet.”
(Bertrand Russell quote from a televised interview in 1958 at the age of 86)".
All cows eat grass!
I was unawake the North Korea had enough computers to be dependant on them enough that a cyber attack would even be effective. Even if they had a few computers, do they a complex network accessable from the outside.
Computer experts, in the modern sense? Any systems to attack?
It makes sense from Iran's standpoint. They were attacked by Duqu and Stuxnet.
Is anyone else not connecting the talk of Iranian nuclear weapons and trying to not get hacked?
And will I be prosecuted if I do?
North Korea has already given Iran nukes.
Every time you take El Al to Ben Gurion you're using Nazi jet engine technology.