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Khan Academy Pilot Educators On Khan Academy

theodp writes "In what may surprise Khan Academy backers Google and Bill Gates, educators from the Los Altos School District where KA was initially piloted and implemented have responded to some recent KA critiques with a blog entry which notes, 'Teachers in our district have determined that the greatest value of the Khan Academy lies, not in the videos, but in the exercise modules and data generated as students work practice problems.' Not too surprisingly, when it comes to revolutionizing student learning, teachers are bullish on teachers. 'Key to this revolution are the Los Altos teachers,' the educators conclude. 'Teachers in our district are highly valued for their pedagogical perspective, content knowledge, experience, and creative abilities. When district administrators put tools in the hands of teachers and give them room to work, amazing things happen for students. Tools will come and go, but it's the teachers who create meaningful learning experiences that challenge students to grow.'"

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  1. Re:And who is surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It doesn't. In california, the teachers union (along with other unions) operates like the mafia. Tax dollars come in and are funneled directly to the unions via the public school districts. The unions in turn use their voting bloc and monetary support for the democratic party to cement control.

    They have a stranglehold on education dollars and they control the legislature. Nothing even vaguely threatening to the current union system will get to the floor for debate much less come to a vote. The losers are the taxpayers and the students.

    As someone who donates money to a friend who works as a teacher just so she can afford extra paper for her students, you're full of shit.

  2. Re:Teachers see writing on the wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can't learn as well on TV. I can't concentrate on it like I can with a book or an interactive lesson on the computer. TV lessons go way too slow or too fast. It's the same with lectures.

    Guided self study works the best - for me anyway. Which sucked for me in school because instructors demanded class participation.

  3. Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In california, the teachers union (along with other unions) operates like the mafia. Tax dollars come in and are funneled directly to the unions via the public school districts.

    You know that's all public record, right? Why don't you request those balance sheets and publish it in the newspaper if it's true? The answer is because it's not, the unions are funded by union dues paid by the teachers ... of course, you don't know what's really going on or how really poor most schools and teachers are, you're just regurgitating talking points against unions that Glenn Beck or someone fed you.

    1. Re:Lies by fuzznutz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's absolutely ridiculous that teachers can make $25,000 a year or more. Without unions, we would see teacher salaries go down to something more commeasurate with their work, and something that local governments can actually afford.

      This kind of shit is why I no longer self identify as a Republican anymore. Teachers are overpaid at $25,000???? I guess you think all US labor should be minimum wage so capital can get richer. Son, that's what starts revolutions...

      Republicans used to be about limited government, now it's all about the race to the bottom. I am astonished at the uneducated lemmings that have taken over the party.

      --> No sense of value
      --> No understanding of economics
      --> No recollection of history

      It's truly incredible...

  4. Re:And who is surprised? by Worthless_Comments · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe you should ask your friend for some tutoring in reading comprehension. The unions =/= the teachers. You see, the teachers are individuals. The union is the group. Yes, McDonalds made billions last year, but that doesn't mean you want to work for them.

  5. Agreed by arcite · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In North America, Teachers are consistently one of the least respected, poorest paid professionals, yet they work some of the longest hours (out of altruism) of anyone. Those teachers who don't burn out after their first few years, and continue to make it a career are the true heroes.

  6. Re:And who is surprised? by LifesABeach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I question those who would target the very group of people that we entrust the giving of knowledge to our children with. And a malignant educator does not represent the thousands of educators. It is easy to cast doubt, put to cast light appears to be a little beyond the reach of some that have the courage to impose their opinions based on proud ignorance upon the public. I've read about such people that cause public debate by first telling a big lie, and then repeating it. I've also noticed that certain people about 70 years and older are very concerned about some of the more materialist types that call themselves Conservative.

  7. Re:An extremely useful resource. by The+Second+Horseman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Absolutely right. This is an attempt to take billions of dollars and shift it to private industry. Romney referred to us as "Company" and not a "Country" the other day. We're at the point where I'm nostalgic for Bush II calling us "Consumers" instead of "Citizens". The middle class was created when wealth was redistributed down. Those at the top have spent the last 60 years working to reverse that, and they've nearly succeeded. Four years of Romney with a Republican congress will seal the deal.

  8. Re:Teachers by orlanz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why was this marked +4 Interesting? The poster basically posted a random all-encompassing opinion with out any sources.

    In North America? Have you traveled to parts outside of the Continental US to make that claim? I don't think Mexico & Canada would like to be put into the same bucket.

    Least Respected? You said NA so I am guessing compared to the world. There are many countries out there where the senior students run the school and/or the teachers only show up to work on pay day.

    Poorest Paid Professional? Google: http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state/
    Average HOUSEHOLD income? Google: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
    Nuff Said (if you compare to most other countries, foreign teachers make less or about the same relative to other jobs there).

    Longest hours? Google: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/survey-teachers-work-53-hours-per-week-on-average/2012/03/16/gIQAqGxYGS_blog.html

    53?!? And 6-8 weeks of PTO? WOW. Talk to any IT Developer, 50-100 hours per week. Average, easily 60. I was in Accounting & Auditing and averaged 55 hours (60+ for month, quarter, & annual closes). In IT, averaged 55; 100+ for deadlines. As an IT PM, 50-70 hours. 15-20 days PTO + 10 holidays.

    And no, that does not count the hours spent on further education, certifications, and air travel for clients. And in the consulting world, not seeing home Monday to Thursday. Yes, our salaries are higher, 50k starting and growing to 80k+ over 5+ years, but considering the hours, I think comparable to teachers.

    BUT COME ON, "consistently one of the least respected, poorest paid professionals... longest hours of anyone"? BULL! Go see a few episodes of Dirty Jobs.

    Seniority has nothing to do with teachers becoming "heroes". My teacher heroes can be counted on both hands and they were some of the least paid in the schools (except 2). I respect them to the Nth degree. But the worst teachers, although just 4, made some of the highest salaries (90k+). Every time this topic comes up, I remember those 4 and think how much of a handicap each generation that they touch start off with. All the other teachers were mediocre but I still thank them for their contribution to what I am today.