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OpenSUSE 12.2 Is Out
First time accepted submitter jospoortvliet writes with news of a new openSUSE release. From the release announcement: "Two months of extra stabilization work have resulted into a stellar release, chock-full of goodies, yet stable as you all like it. The latest release of the world's most powerful and flexible Linux Distribution brings you speed-ups across the board with a faster storage layer in Linux 3.4 and accelerated functions in glibc and Qt, giving a more fluid and responsive desktop. The infrastructure below openSUSE has evolved, bringing in newly matured technologies like GRUB2 and Plymouth and the first steps in the direction of a revised and simplified UNIX file system hierarchy. Users will also notice the added polish to existing features bringing an improved user experience all over. The novel Btrfs file system comes with improved error handling and recovery tools. KDE has improved its stability, GNOME 3.4, developing rapidly, brings smooth scrolling to all applications and features a reworked System Settings and Contacts manager while XFCE has an enhanced application finder. Download openSUSE 12.2 from any of our mirrors."
Also, has the Yast GUI been fixed to make some kind of sense?
"Here Lies Philip J. Fry, named for his uncle, to carry on his spirit"
FOOD FIGHT!
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
DID try 12.1 quite a lot and was terribly disappointed.
Reformated harddrive and reinstalled 11.4 - and HAPPY!
WHY?
11.4 has GNOME 2 - Now THAT's a GREAT UI.
(At least when seeing the alternatives)
perl -e 'printf("%x!\n",49153)'
There never WAS an official XFCE ISO. There are several way to get XFCE without installing the rest
1) Download the DVD and do the installation. During installation you select Other instead of KDE/GNOME and select XFCE or LXDE there
2) Do a network install and select XFCE or LXDE just like above
2a) http://www.houghi.org/ssh/install.php and then do the same as above. Basically this is a network install without the iso.
3) Wait for http://susestudio.com/ to have 12.2 available and make your own image.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
It seems that it was worth it to delay the release with few weeks. This 12.2 release works really well on brand new Ultrabook (in this case Samsung Series 5). Recent hardware including Intel HD 4000, and new chipset - I guess it is thanks to Intel's open source drivers (and of course hard work of packagers) that experience is this good.
Maybe Year of Desktop Linux is near?
Yes, KNetworkManager has connected to wireless networks without root privileges since forever.
GUI - "some kind of sense" is subjective and vague. Here's a current screenshot from YaST 2.21.24 in openSUSE 12.1: http://i.imgur.com/06QLC.png Point out what you don't like or what you think needs to be improved.
I don't speak German you insensitive clod!
You could also read in silence.
Why does Geico have a Linux distro?
OpenSUSE is my favorite distro by quite a bit. I look forward to using 12.2 the next time I install Linux.
I went to eat some animal crackers and the box said, "Do not eat if seal is broken." I opened the box and sure enough..
Yes! It ships KDE 3.5.10 with improvements to make it work with upower and udisks.
I've been using ubuntu because their silly alphabet animal names were entertaining. I don't know why i never really thought about opensuse before though. Their little chameleon logo is CUTE AS A BUTTON! I'm a convert!
Maybe I'm just old and grumpy, but all of this fancy new crap that obfuscates the boot process really ticks me off. If a machine has trouble booting, the last thing I want is some fancy gui with a pretty stop-watch ticking endlessly at me, rather than seeing "NFS server foo not responding" in black and white. So now rather than having just the actual problem to fix, I've got to use a second machine to figure out how to shut off the god damned gui (or how to get into the grub menu) before I can even get a hint what the actual problem might be.
Now get off my lawn.
I think you misunderstand what Yast is these days. It's for the quickening of the tasks you might want to do as a sysadmin. Need to enable X forwarding for SSH? You can dig up the location of the config file, find the appropriate line, and type in the appropriate word to enable it (yes, enable, y, or on?) or you can go to Yast, hit SSH, check X forwarding and be done with it.
Need to run VNC like an X session? Yast can do it in about 3 seconds. The GUI makes more sense than googling around, editing a config file, cutting/pasting something you found on a forum, and crossing your fingers.
TV card not automatically detected? Easy with yast, no sudo modprobing blues.
But that's not the reason to use openSUSE. The reason to use openSUSE is you can go to http://www.susestudio.com and spin your own distro in about 10 minutes running every piece of software you want and no software you don't.
Check the bug tracker here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/buglist.cgi?&query_format=advanced&order=Importance&field0-0-0=op_sys&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=openSUSE&resolution=---&product=openSUSE%2012.2&classification=openSUSE - Lots of critical and major bugs left that can leave you with an unusable system until you figure out the poblem and find the work-around for it.
And how much longer is 11.4 supported? Quick google of wiki suggests that ends next month...
2 later releases + 2 months -> 5th November 2012.
I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and perform this gut wrenching upgrade. I'm presently running 11.3 and they've dropped support for a while now. I just hate the upgrade process.
1. Oh, you should really install from scratch. We wouldn't want anything bad to happen to your upgrade.(and it will)
2. Everything you spent days getting to work last time will be broken again. Audio, video, fonts, Plymouth(what the fuck for?)...
3. You'll love the way that KDE and Gnome have changed absolutely everything so the default apps are all new(read broken and incomplete and the old apps are incompatible).
I swear to God I'm seriously thinking of going to Windows for the first time since 1998. But, that pile of crap is about to do the exact same shit with the release of Windows 8. Perhaps it's time to buy a Mac. Oh for God's sake! Has it really come to this?