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UPEK Fingerprint Reader Software Puts Windows Passwords At Risk

colinneagle writes with this excerpt from Network World: "If your password management system is to use your 'fingerprint as your master password,' and if your laptop uses UPEK software, then you'll not be happy to know your Windows password is not secure and instead is easily crackable. In fact, 'UPEK's implementation is nothing but a big, glowing security hole compromising (and effectively destroying) the entire security model of Windows accounts.' On the Elcomsoft blog about 'advanced password cracking insight,' Olga Koksharova had bad news for people who thought they were more secure by using biometrics, a UPEK fingerprint reader, instead of relying on a password. UPEK stores Windows account passwords in the registry 'almost in plain text, barely scrambled but not encrypted.' It's not just a few that are susceptible to hacking. 'All laptops equipped with UPEK fingerprint readers and running UPEK Protector Suite are susceptible. If you ever registered your fingerprints with UPEK Protector Suite for accelerated Windows login and typed your account password there, you are at risk.'"

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  1. How is this a surprise... by schaiba · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...I don't really know.

  2. No surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Using fingerprint data as an decryption key is very hard as the information is quite noisy. However, an decryption key is still needed to fetch the password (which, in turn, is needed for example to access encrypted files). Without a secure boot infrastructure a TPM doesn't help, so that leaves only the possibility of storing the key on-disk. Once the key is located, obtaining the password is trival so it doesn't really matter whether strong encryption is used.

    This means that probably all fingerprint scanner software suffers from this flaw.

    1. Re:No surprise by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Basically if the fingerprint scanner integrated with Windows Login the same way as third party login systems like Novel Networks et al, it wouldn't need your password until you tried to access an encrypted file. The flaw here is they hack it out by sending your password to Windows; fingerprint data is too noisy, you compare it as "sufficiently similar" but it's going to be too unique to generate a key from with any repeatability and high entropy. Thus they store the key UUENCODED or BASE64 or MIME to obscure it, which doesn't work on hackers. Instead, they should hook the login process and directly complete user authentication without a password, and let windows ask for a password if it tries to touch an EFS file.

    2. Re:No surprise by cryptizard · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is actually some new research into exactly this problem. Using what they call "fuzzy extractors" you can derive a secure key from noisy information. Really cool, check it out http://www.cs.bu.edu/~reyzin/fuzzy.html

  3. Security Theature NOW ON BROADWAY by RobertLTux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    so how long has this been in use before somebody noticed the passwords were effectively PLAIN TEXT??

    folks this is about as smart as swimming near Amnity Island with an open wound on your ankle.

    I propose any kind of Silver Bullet be subjected to the Mitnick Test (throw it at a group of blackhats and then see how long it takes them to break it fix what you find and then pay them enough to keep quiet)

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    1. Re:Security Theature NOW ON BROADWAY by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Interesting

      so how long has this been in use before somebody noticed the passwords were effectively PLAIN TEXT??

      You know, this kind of stuff happens all of the time -- because people are lazy, under pressure from the boss, or just plain stupid.

      Several years ago, I was helping to install some software which was supposed to go onto the machine in the DMZ and reach back into the firewall to access a database.

      It turns out the software stored the admin password in cleartext in a registry key (zero attempts to obfuscate, let alone encrypt). I started shouting this quite loudly to anybody who would listen, and tried to explain why this was ludicrous.

      Eventually I got told it was a low risk, and that I should shut up. Sometimes, management overrules you on these things.

      Sadly, I'm betting someone brought this to someone's attention, and got told to STFU.

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  4. Re:This is a non-issue. by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As the article states, individually encrypted files using EFS would normally be secure even with the method you mention since that method does not obtain the Windows password, You can only access machine unencrypted files, or reset a password. Windows itself is as secure as you could expect. As you said the same can be done to Linux.

    Still I can imagine some people think Windows machines are "secure" somehow if they just have a password on their account. These people would likely assume their system would be more secure with the UPEK reader.

    Also it sounds like this UPEK software has more features, probably browser passwords and such, so there may be more problems using the UPEK software. This article doesn't state it though.

    Interestingly the manufacturer is claiming passwords are stored using AES. It would be interesting to see someone else follow up and see who is telling the truth.

  5. More Checklist Security by fm6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Remember that Simpsons ep where Smithers and Burns have to enter their top secret command post? They pass through a dozen high-tech security portals worthy of a James Bond movie to get there. Unexplained is why they didn't just use the other entrance, which consists of a broken screen door.

    Then there's the ISP I used to work for that advertises "Biometric security access". What is means is that a server room in an office building has a lock that can be opened by employee fingerprint. Of course, it can also be opened by an ordinary key, which is what building security uses.

    People buy security tech, and they think they've solved a security problem. Once again I quote Bruce Schneier: security is a process, not a product.

  6. Never rely on a single authentication method. by QilessQi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The best authentication has three components:

    1. Something you know (such as a passphrase), plus...
    2. Something you own (such as the ID number from a FOB which rotates IDs every minute), plus...
    3. Something you are (biometrics).

    You don't use biometrics *instead* of the passphrase or FOB; you use it to augment the effectiveness of those techniques.

    1. Re:Never rely on a single authentication method. by tringstad · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Biometrics are not and should not be used for authentication at all, they fall under the category of identification.

      Good article on the differences between Identification, Authentication, and Authorization here:

      http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc512578.aspx

      There is even a section which addresses biometrics specifically.

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  7. Re:how hard would it have been by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ridiculously hard. Fingerprints are biometric, they change. You have a rough model that's similar to a rough model snapshot of your fingerprint pressed, squished, scanned, etc. Your print may possibly be rotated--orientation is random, but comparable to a known snapshot. Basically every time you image the fingerprint you get a slightly different result, and you apply fuzzy logic to work out if it matches prior data.

    This also means that using fingerprint uniqueness points to generate some sort of AES key would store your password in plain text: the finger print is stored somewhere for verification, and therefor the finger print model can be used to derive the encryption key, and thus the key is stored with the ciphertext, thus plain text. (By this logic, if you attach your front door key to your front door with a magnet and then lock your front door and leave, your house is unlocked--any moron can pluck the key dangling by the door knob and open your door, you've simply altered the interface a bit. Key under the doormat is the same, takes a little more time examining it to figure out how you're supposed to open the door but you can, it's not really locked.)

  8. It's not a security device by joeflies · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All consumer biometric devices should not be considered "security" devices, but rather "convenience" devices. It makes it easier to log in than typinig a password, and it's more convenient than using an OTP on the desktop. But it's not secure as a password because the password store is on the computer.

    As far as password lockers go, I'm inclined to trust a password store encrypted by a passphrase (like lastpass) rather than a biometric. That's because with a passphrase, you can have a very precise method of unlocking the password store. The passphrase itself vouches for you and is repeatable. A biometric scan may vouch for you, but the values it returns are not a key. Some other key is used to decrypt the password store. And that "some other key" is open to the whims of how it's implemented by the device maker.

    One caveat, on the security scale, commercial biometric devices are a different animal altogether

  9. Well that is much simpler than I thought by AlienSexist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I always figured that the digital representation of your fingerprint would be extracted and copied. With that copy a number of options could be possible. Perhaps the scan can be bypassed entirely and the biometric computer fed the digital copy. Or perhaps the copy can be used with the reverse-algorithm from the reverse-engineered reader to produce a fingerprint that will have the same "hash value" even if it is not exactly like the owner's. Any one of these "solution" fingerprints could be printed onto paper or some material that would allow proper scanning as a normal finger.

    Let us not forget the rumored "gummy bear" attack on biometric readers in the past.

    But no, I guess it is far ,far easier to just read the users password out of the registry from where the biometric system wrote it.

  10. Missing the point by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The summary states that the passwords are scrambled but not encrypted. I fail to see the distinction. If I take a word and reverse it, that is a form of encryption. Sure, it is a very weak form, but it is.

    And if you're going to just store the session key in the registry then it doesn't matter if they're using AES with a 5000-bit key.

    If they used strong encryption on the password database, and then used TPM to store the session key, with a full trusted boot chain to the software needed to obtain the keys, then that would be pretty strong. However, I don't know that enough of Palladium was ever implemented to make this practical. Full-disk encryption software tends to work this way, but that runs before the bootloader, so it only needs the boot chain to be secure up to that point.

  11. Re:This is a non-issue. by anomaly256 · · Score: 3, Informative

    What I don't get is why it needs to store the windows account password at all. If they wrote a proper authentication plugin for the windows security model, they would just need to know the user's SID and have permission to go 'Yep, the person at the console is in fact this SID' without needed to provide the password at all. I've done this before, it's really not all that hard either, day or 2 of digging through docs and actual coding. *confused*

  12. Re:Is it really secure anyways? by jedwidz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's about the same as my success rate after I registered my fingerprints.

    It was faster to just put my gloves on and then type my password.

  13. Re:This is a non-issue. by cryptizard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Right, but they don't require a 100% match on the extracted features. Also, if the key is derived from the fingerprint, and the fingerprint template is stored on the disk, then really the key is just being stored on the disk in a roundabout way and you don't have any better security anyway.