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Texas Opens Fastest US Highway With 85 MPH Limit

Hugh Pickens writes "Most highways in the U.S. top out at 75 mph, while some highways in rural West Texas and Utah have 80 mph speed limits. All that is about to change as Texas opens a stretch of highway with the highest speed limit in the country, giving eager drivers a chance to rip through a trip between two of the state's largest metropolitan areas at 85 mph for a 41-mile toll road between Austin and San Antonio. While some drivers will want to test their horsepower and radar detectors, others are asking if safety is taking a backseat. A 2009 report in the American Journal of Public Health found that more than 12,500 deaths were attributable to increases in speed limits on all kinds of roads and that rural highways showed a 9.1 percent increase in fatalities on roads where speed limits were raised. 'If you're looking at an 85 mph speed limit, we could possibly see drivers going 95 up to 100 miles per hour,' says Sandra Helin, president of the Southwestern Insurance Information Service. 'When you get to those speeds, your accidents are going to be a lot worse. You're going to have a lot more fatalities.'"

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  1. Yeah but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's in texas.

    So. There's that.

    1. Re:Yeah but... by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's in texas.

      So. There's that.

      It's Darwinism in action, but don't expect them to put that in the school books.

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    2. Re:Yeah but... by NFN_NLN · · Score: 5, Funny

      Speaking of Darwinism... how many of those vehicles are pickup trucks with people sitting the bed?

      Was that suppose to read:

      ...with people sitting in the bed?

      -OR-

      ...with people shitting the bed?

      because it could really go either way.

  2. Nothing new by orthancstone · · Score: 5, Informative

    "We could possibly see drivers going 95 up to 100 miles per hour."

    Hate to break it to Sandra, but that's the usual speed in many parts of Texas.

    1. Re:Nothing new by Jeng · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hate to break it to Sandra, but that's the usual speed in many parts of Texas.

      As well as Wyoming, only state where I have been passed while going over 100mph.

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    2. Re:Nothing new by BinarySolo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Seems to me that Wreckless Driving is a good thing.

    3. Re:Nothing new by Megane · · Score: 5, Informative

      And...
      1: it's a toll road, which reduces traffic from the start
      2: it's a toll road, so there are fewer entrances and exits
      3: it's RFID toll tag or pay-by-mail (using license plate recognition cameras) ONLY, and existing toll booths on the north half will be removed, further reducing obstacles
      4: not only is it a divided highway (or "dual carriageway" as they say on the other side of the pond), but
      5: it's being built with a concrete surface, not asphalt (all the toll roads around Austin have been concrete) so you won't have potholes
      6: it completely bypasses the Austin metro area and the overloaded San Antonio to Austin I-35 route, even avoiding small towns (part of the point, since this would have been the route for the now-defunct TTC project)

      Even on the overloaded San Antonio to Austin section of I-35, traffic often goes 75-85mph when traffic is light.

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    4. Re:Nothing new by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well I drive on this road all the time, it's practically deserted because the locals, who refused to fund it with taxes (red state - taxes are just for crack mothers and layabouts, not for roads and shit), are in some sort of quasi-rebellion against the overseas interest who owns the road and put the toll system in place. 85 feels very slow, just the comparatively short run between the Austin airport and round rock feels like you're in the middle of nowhere and may not even see a car much less pass one. Only complete pussies ever drove below 80 on this road, even when the speed limit was 65. Now I expect to see 90-95, but with the exception below, it's straight, wide and open. There isn't a much safer place to go fast that close to a major city.

      Unfortunately as all the toll road speed limits have gone up, more and more people are out seemingly in protest, driving side by side way lower than the speed limit. We don't have a right lane for passing only law here, so you're stuck with them. So it may be 85 mph, but in practice you're stuck with the slowest person on the road.

    5. Re:Nothing new by Brooklynoid · · Score: 5, Informative

      You said: If there were no speedlimit people would, for the most part, drive INCREDIBLY riskily.

      Research indicates that this is not the case. In areas where speed limits are not enforced, civil engineers find that 85% of motorists drive at what most would call a prudent speed. In fact, in many municipalities, speed limits for a given road are determined by observing traffic and determining the limit based on the 85 percentile speed (assuming, of course, that generating revenue from speeding fines is not part of the equation). Google "85 percentile traffic speed" if you're interested.

  3. It's an Effing Toll Road by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't like the higher speed limit? Don't drive on it.

    Doesn't get any simpler than that.

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  4. Autobahn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The sad fact is that its not speed that kills, its differential speed. Unfortunately our drivers training here is not really up to the standards it should be with modern machines. If you look at Germany they take drivers ed a lot more seriously, as well as licencing, with 6 month courses costing thousands of dollars being the norm. As well the rules of the Autobahn are strictly enforced, if you're going slow in the left lane you WILL be pulled over, just as quick if not quicker than you would for "speeding". Same with sudden lane changes, and just general bad driving. Speed doesnt kill, dumb drivers do.

  5. stupidest argument ever by v1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'When you get to those speeds, your accidents are going to be a lot worse. You're going to have a lot more fatalities.'"

    That happens anytime you raise the speed limit. from 55 to 65. from 45 to 55. from 10 to 20. We've already had this argument brought up multiple times, and you lost. Take that argument and go away.

    Statistically speaking anyway, once you're hurtling down the road at 65 mph or faster, you're already well over the curve for speed-to-lethality tradeoff. Dropping your odds of survival from 2% to 1.8% really doesn't impress me that much.

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  6. Stay out of the left lane if you're not passing by Control-Z · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just stay out of the left lane when not passing and driving will be much safer for everyone.

  7. Re:Rest of the world already ahead by repvik · · Score: 5, Informative

    And autobahn is one of the safest highways as well:

    Traffic zooms by on the German autobahn at 120 mph. The speed-limitless highway system stretches 6,800 miles and the Federal Ministry of Transport has declared the autobahn to be one of the safest road systems in the world despite the roaring, high speeds. US highways, on the other hand, rank as one of the most dangerous where speed limits range from 55 to 75 mph. Strict laws are believed to be the prominent reason the autobahn is safer than US highways.

    http://www.ehow.com/about_6726960_autobahn-safety-vs_-interstate-safety.html

  8. Re:Rest of the world already ahead by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, that's 136km/h - that's what our recommended travelling speed (130) on the "Autobahn" is in Germany. It has proven to be an excellent balance between emission (gears and cars are tuned to that speed), moving forward, but not braking too much due to other people's influences.

    Once again I have deep mis-respect for you "best country in the world" guys.

    From Expatica:

    The worst case Führeschein scenario is having to take a full driving course, like young German drivers do. "To get a regular driver's license," Christine explains, "you have to take 14 theory classes and at least 12 driving lessons. Driving schools usually offer them twice a week, so that takes about seven weeks. Depending on how quickly you learn, it can be done in about three months; but it usually takes longer, because of holidays and so forth. You start with the classroom sessions, and then move on to the driving portion, taking them in parallel so you learn the rules and also how to apply them." How many driving lessons you'll need to take depends on how quickly you learn. With 12 as the minimum, and 50 on the high end, the full licensing course can cost between EUR 1000-2000.

    Compare that to getting a license in the US:
    - @ 15.5 yrs, take lame written exam
    - @ 16 yrs, take lame driving "test" where you drive a couple laps around the city square or a big empty parking lot, then parallel park

    That is pretty much all the training most US drivers get, which may explain why we have significantly higher accident rates than Germany, even with lower speed limits on highways.

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  9. Re:Apples and Oranges by WillAdams · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I was stationed in (middle-of-nowhere) Texas in 1987--8, the drivers were courteous to a fault, and pulling over onto the (fully paved) shoulder to allow a faster car overtaking one was the norm.

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  10. There's nothing Darwin about it. by raehl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is nothing unsafe about driving very fast on roads designed for driving very fast. You are FAR safer driving on a restricted-access divided highway at 100 MPH than you are driving on a 45 MPH city street with cross traffic, or a country road. Especially now that many states are putting up those cables in the median that prevent cars from getting across into oncoming traffic.

    Even the article summary has to grasp for straws in trying to provide a "balanced" summary.... this 85 MPH divided highway is apparently unsafe because.... driving fast on country roads increases fatalities!

    But a divided highway is not a country road.

    Accidents between two cars going in the same direction at relatively the same speed (+/- 10-15 mph) are rare. It's the car going 35 MPH+ one way that encounters another car going 35 MPH+ in a different direction (hed-on or cross traffic) that kills people. Divided highway fatalities are usually coming up on stopped traffic in fog or at night, or falling asleep and leaving the highway.

    One more point to note ... if you're going to get in a single-car accident at 65 MPH and hit a pylon or something, you're dead. If you do it at 85 or 90 MPH, you're just REALLY dead. Same difference.

    1. Re:There's nothing Darwin about it. by Carewolf · · Score: 5, Informative

      The other point is people regularly drive over the speed limit, regardless of the speed. SO when you are doibng 85, some a hole is doing 120. Drive at 120 is different the 65 and 85. Wind and air pressure at 120 can cause you to lose control.

      A car going past you at 120mph is not going to give you nearly as much turbulence as overtaking a truck doing 60mph. In fact one of the reasons a fast car can go 120mph is because it doesn't cause a lot of turbulence. It can be a bit of a shock to be overtaken by someone going 150mph, when you are already going 100mph in Germany, but beyond the surprise it is not affecting you.

    2. Re:There's nothing Darwin about it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People like to point to the Autobahn for speeds like this but there are clear differences.

      - Licenses are much harder to get in Germany and require much stricter testing
      - The high speed roads are very well maintained and are not straight so they tend not to create driving "hypnosis"
      - People take driving more seriously on the Autobahn instead of treating it like a game or a chance to play with their phones

      Hit a bump in a road at 90+ and your average SUV would probably lift off the ground and lose control.