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FBI Launches $1 Billion Nationwide Face Recognition System

MrSeb writes "The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation has begun rolling out its new $1 billion biometric Next Generation Identification (NGI) system. In essence, NGI is a nationwide database of mugshots, iris scans, DNA records, voice samples, and other biometrics that will help the FBI identify and catch criminals — but it is how this biometric data is captured, through a nationwide network of cameras and photo databases, that is raising the eyebrows of privacy advocates. Until now, the FBI relied on IAFIS, a national fingerprint database that has long been due an overhaul. Over the last few months, the FBI has been pilot testing a face recognition system, which will soon be scaled up (PDF) until it's nationwide. In theory, this should result in much faster positive identifications of criminals and fewer unsolved cases. The problem is, the FBI hasn't guaranteed that the NGI will only use photos of known criminals. There may come a time when the NGI is filled with as many photos as possible, from as many sources as possible, of as many people as possible — criminal or otherwise. Imagine if the NGI had full access to every driving license and passport photo in the country — and DNA records kept by doctors, and iris scans kept by businesses. The FBI's NGI, if the right checks and balances aren't in place, could very easily become a tool that decimates civilian privacy and freedom."

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  1. Thought criminal by puddingebola · · Score: 5, Funny

    The person who posted this story is a thought criminal. Report to the Ministry of Love immediately.

  2. One more reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One more reason to not post stuff on Facebook.

    1. Re:One more reason by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Informative

      sure, throw caution to the wind.

      what's the worst that can happen?

      (answer: nightmarish stuff. give it time and we'll learn. the hard way, no doubt, but we'll learn!)

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    2. Re:One more reason by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But don't believe people will ever give a shit about your self taken gangsta' pose pictures.

      Um.

      If the FBI don't "give a shit..." why would they build a billion dollar facial recognition database?

      I contend that there are people, powerful people, who do indeed "give a shit," and thus, so should the rest of us, yourself included.

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    3. Re:One more reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      but we'll learn!

      Will we? I think it's more likely that people will be surprised and vow to never let it happen again, but it will quickly be forgotten. Look at how people are sacrificing freedom for safety left and right (TSA, Patriot Act, and all the other garbage) despite countless corrupt governments throughout history; it's as if they think the people in the government are perfect beings that could never hurt anyone but the 'bad guys'.

    4. Re:One more reason by currently_awake · · Score: 3, Informative

      Your mother just posted these hilarious shots of you with some nice hells angel bikers from when your car broke down. With your name tagged. Gee, I wonder if that will be entered into the database? I'm sure having you tagged as an associate of known criminals will aid you immensely.

    5. Re:One more reason by 0111+1110 · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's only one juror 'ability' you need to know about: jury nullification. If you think the law is unjust then the accused is not guilty by definition.

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    6. Re:One more reason by nospam007 · · Score: 2

      "You are being watched. The government has a secret system, a machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it. I designed the machine to detect acts of terror but it sees everything."

    7. Re:One more reason by jamstar7 · · Score: 2

      What are you worried about? They only spent a billion on it. Everybody knows that any government contract under a billion is worthless. They'll be lucky if they can even log into it at that price.

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  3. Anyone will do... by mspohr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem is that cops get points for arresting someone (catch the criminal).
    They don't necessarily get points deducted for catching the wrong person.
    This database will help them rack up points by finding someone who vaguely matches. All they need to do then is get them to "confess" (aka "plea bargain").

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    1. Re:Anyone will do... by oakgrove · · Score: 4, Interesting

      All they need to do then is get them to "confess" (aka "plea bargain").

      And conveniently over 90 percent of federal cases end in plea bargaining. And if you make the mistake of not taking the offer and get found guilty at trial, you can be virtually certain to end up with a harsher sentence and at a minimum, you want receive the "downward departure" for being cooperative which is standard in federal cases.

      That being said, why wait until that phase to get the confession when you can just send in the private investigators from the start. PIs aren't bound by any of that "Miranda Act" nonsense and can pretty much say anything they want to get you to incriminate yourself and it all stands up in court just as well as if an interviewing detective had gotten you to talk.

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    2. Re:Anyone will do... by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They don't necessarily get points deducted for catching the wrong person.

      This is the real problem. If you've been falsely accused of a crime, removed from your home, and locked in a cage, then you've been victimized just as surely as if you were kidnapped. In such circumstances you deserve justice against your aggressor.

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    3. Re:Anyone will do... by mk1004 · · Score: 3, Informative

      There was a case in Dallas some years ago like this. The guy worked as a window installer. He moved somewhere in the North East. Some years later, the national fingerprint database went on-line and the local cops started running fingerprints that had been gathered at crime scenes through the system. The guy had been in the military, so his records were in the database and matched prints found in a burglary. The detectives working the case didn't care that there was a perfectly good explanation for his prints being at the scene. He ended up going back to Dallas, interrupting his family's lives until he could get it resolved. A plea bargain counts as a win; they didn't care if he was guilty or not.

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    4. Re:Anyone will do... by Aryden · · Score: 2

      PIs aren't bound by any of that "Miranda Act" nonsense and can pretty much say anything they want to get you to incriminate yourself and it all stands up in court just as well as if an interviewing detective had gotten you to talk.

      The police can say anything they want to get you to talk. Miranda rights may have to be read, but that doesn't stop them from lying through their teeth to get the information they want out of you.

    5. Re:Anyone will do... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2

      I'm sure he did.

      Of course, the police don't really care. They can still arrest him, in which case he'd better have an attorney and pay that guy and track down witnesses from years ago (all while living 1000 miles away) and all that in order to defend himself. And, if found Not Guilty, it's not like anybody's going to reimburse him. So there goes the kids' college education fund down the tubes.

      But if he pleads guilty, I'm sure the DA will recommend a light sentence. After all, he has no prior arrests. He'll get a few years probation so he doesn't have to serve any jail time and can go on with his life--albeit with a criminal record. The DAs office gets to knock a "cold case" off their files and everybody's happy!

    6. Re:Anyone will do... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is a mechanism for getting redress for false arrest. It's called a lawsuit. And yes, police officers who get sued for false arrest do lose points.

      Keep in mind that "false arrest" means that the police did not have a valid warrant for your arrest, not that you didn't do it. As long as the police can show a valid arrest warrant and they didn't lie to the judge to get it, it's not false arrest--even if they made a mistake.

  4. FB et. al? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How long until Facebook and other considerably large photography aggregators get tapped for their "resources"?

  5. public datasets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    During a 2010 presentationmade by the FBI’s Biometric Center of Intelligence, the FBI said the technology could be used for "identifying subjects in public databases."

    Hello, Facebok!

  6. Privacy? by byteherder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Who thinks this will stop at just helping "the FBI identify and catch criminals"?
     
    This is a bigger threat to privacy than anything in history.

  7. Good for them by Bryansix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    First off the widely reported story is that the NGI will use public surveillance video and photos. The part about including DNA records from private practices is unsubstantiated. Now I for one do not have a problem with them using public surveillance or Driver's License ID's. If you go out in Public, you consent to being watched by the same public and by extension, the Government. It is completely acceptable and good for them to use this legally obtained data in an automated recongnition system. Yes there needs to be checks and balances but the problem doesn lie in the source of the images.

    1. Re:Good for them by Bryansix · · Score: 2

      Ever heard of the fourth amendement? Obviously not.

    2. Re:Good for them by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now I for one do not have a problem with them using public surveillance or Driver's License ID's. If you go out in Public, you consent to being watched by the same public and by extension, the Government.

      A normal person who was watched by "the same public" as closely as these systems can would quickly feel like he was being stalked and harassed. Going out in public does not mean you give consent to be stalked and have the time and date of your location constantly recorded in a permanent database.

      It is completely acceptable and good for them to use this legally obtained data in an automated recongnition system. Yes there needs to be checks and balances but the problem doesn lie in the source of the images.

      It absolutely does lie in the source of the images you gloss over all the nuance by saying "legally obtained" - when in fact what matters most is WHY it was legally obtained. Being photographed for a driver's license is a far different thing than being photographed for a system that can be used to identify someone who isn't even in a car, much less driving.

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    3. Re:Good for them by oakgrove · · Score: 2

      You forget that most public observations are ephemeral, and that people violate several laws every day without knowing so.

      Not only that but practically any crime these days can be ratched upward in seriousness. I saw a case recently where a guy was using his phone to commit the crimes but he was only calling people in his own state so it wasn't federal. Or so you would think. The phone records were pulled and come to find out one of the calls ended up bouncing off of a satellite and was therefore "out of state". The feds picked it up.

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    4. Re:Good for them by misexistentialist · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People don't sit around in the registry and pay a hefty fee to give an updated photo for the spy system, they do it to drive. Using those photos is an abuse of the public trust. I'll print out your post and mail it to you when you are death row because a guy without a license who looks you went into a maternity ward and raped all the babies to death.

    5. Re:Good for them by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Now I for one do not have a problem with them using public surveillance or Driver's License ID's. If you go out in Public, you consent to being watched by the same public and by extension, the Government.

      A normal person who was watched by "the same public" as closely as these systems can would quickly feel like he was being stalked and harassed. Going out in public does not mean you give consent to be stalked and have the time and date of your location constantly recorded in a permanent database.

      Exactly this, any corporeal person obtaining this much information about you "in public" 20 years ago would have been eligible for a restraining order against them.

  8. Business Opportunity by BMOC · · Score: 4, Funny

    Selling T-Shirts saying, "I've got your false-positive right here..." with a picture of goat.se on the back...

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  9. They said I was paranoid... by arcite · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...walking around outside with a brown paper bag over my head. NOW who's paranoid? FOOLS!!!

  10. Re:False positives are to be handled how? by oakgrove · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Also, shouldn't criminals who have served their entire sentence (including parole) be removed from this database?

    Why would they want to do that? If they restored full citizenship to ex-cons and actually allowed them to lead productive lives as full-fledged members of society, drastically lowering the recidivism rate from desperate people that can't even get hired at McDonalds and see no choice but to go back to crime, then how are they going to keep all the prosecutors, judges, police, detention officers, wardens, etc. employed? I mean, for God's sake man, what about the stockholders for the private prison corporations? Who's thinking about them?

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  11. Amateurs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We have had this in London for years.

  12. Beware the state security apparatus .. by dgharmon · · Score: 2

    "The U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation has begun rolling out its new $1 billion biometric Next Generation Identification (NGI) system. In essence, NGI is a nationwide database of mugshots, iris scans, DNA records, voice samples, and other biometrics that will help the FBI identify and catch criminals"

    Actually, it's just a more efficient method for the police state to spy on its own citizens . Such methods the Stazi could only dream of. Without the threat of Islamic "terrorism" such methods would never have been acceptable by the population. A relevant question to ask is, who is going to protect us from you?

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  13. Re:pixelhead by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

    I have not checked all states and it probably does vary by state. but this is what I was able to find:

    NEW YORK Penal Law 240.35 (4):
    Being masked or in any manner disguised by unusual or unnatural attire or facial alteration, loiters, remains or congregates in a public place with other persons so masked or disguised, or knowingly permits or aids persons so masked or disguised to congregate in a public place; except that such conduct is not unlawful when it occurs in connection with a masquerade party or like entertainment if, when such entertainment is held in a city which has promulgated regulations in connection with such affairs, permission is first obtained from the police or other appropriate authorities; (National Lawyers Guild NYC Chapter paper on the anti-mask law)

    CA Penal Code Section 185.
    It shall be unlawful for any person to wear any mask, false whiskers, or any personal disguise (whether complete or partial) for the purpose of:
    One--Evading or escaping discovery, recognition, or identification
    in the commission of any public offense.
    Two--Concealment, flight, or escape, when charged with, arrested
    for, or convicted of, any public offense.
    Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor.

    that's 2 states, so far. but two biggies. ymmv. offer void where prohibited by law. order by midnight tonite!

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  14. Re:Don' really see the big deal by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

    I fall more in the, "if you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing to worry about" camp.

    And just what makes you thing that you are going to determine what's "wrong"?

  15. Whoa whoa whoa by Altanar · · Score: 2

    Imagine if the NGI had full access to every driving license...

    Let me stop you right there. You can imagine all you want, but I can't ever see the states ever agreeing to a shared ID database. Look at how many states refused to take part in the REAL ID law. At least half the states have flat out refused to comply. Do you think that more than three or four would ever agree to spending state money on an FBI project?

    1. Re:Whoa whoa whoa by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, you can choose to not join the shared ID database. Of course, you won't get any money from the federal government for law enforcement if you don't join. But, hey, it's your choice.

      Kind of like how all the States suddenly decided to raise the drinking age to 21 because it was a good idea. It had nothing to do with Losing 10% of their Federal Highway Funding.

  16. We can trust these guys, right? by RevSpaminator · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are a lot of concerns being voiced, but come on folks... When has the FBI ever been used to track those with opposing political points of view?

  17. Re:pixelhead by dthx1138 · · Score: 2

    The way the California code is worded seems to imply that simply wearing a mask is not a crime. It's only a violation if it can be proven that you were wearing a mask/disguise for the purpose of evading identification while 1) committing a public offense, or 2) if you have already been charged or convicted with an offense. In other words, they'd have to prove that you committed some other crime first.

    If that's the case, the mask is simply a misdemeanor add-on to whatever your initial crime is, which seems pretty reasonable to me.

    The NY one on the other hand sounds a bit scarier... masks are illegal unless you're having a costume party? If so, how did this become law?

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  18. Safety vs Liberty by caballew · · Score: 2

    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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  19. You mean room 641A? by Penurious+Penguin · · Score: 4, Informative
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