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Canadian Scientists Bind High-Temp Superconductor Components With Scotch Tape

First time accepted submitter halightw writes "Scotch tape really can fix anything according to a new study where it was used to induce super conductivity by taping two pieces of material together. A "proximity effect" occurs when a superconducting material is able to induce superconducting behavior in a second material — a semiconductor that does not typically enjoy superconductivity." All that and X-rays, too. Related: An anonymous reader writes "Scientist at University of Leipzig in Germany claim to have measured room-temperature superconducting in specially treated graphite grains. The measurements were reproduced independently before the announcement was made. More tests need to be done to verify the extent of superconductivity and whether the effect can be extended and scaled to be practical."

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  1. Irrelevant headline by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So the really interesting part of this story - that superconductivity can be induced in high-temperature materials that haven't been grown in proximity - is completely overshadowed by the tape that held the experiment together?

    Fuck journalism.

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    1. Re:Irrelevant headline by Meshach · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So the really interesting part of this story - that superconductivity can be induced in high-temperature materials that haven't been grown in proximity - is completely overshadowed by the tape that held the experiment together?

      Fuck journalism.

      You must be new here...

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    2. Re:Irrelevant headline by BMOC · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So the really interesting part of this story - that superconductivity can be induced in high-temperature materials that haven't been grown in proximity - is completely overshadowed by the tape that held the experiment together?

      Fuck journalism.

      I think you mean... that superconductivity can be induced at high-temperatures in materials that haven't been grown in proximity... And yes I find that far more interesting than using tape to accomplish it. Generally superconductivity dislikes material boundaries. This is why crystal grain boundaries (paradoxically) help control superconductivity in thin-film YBCO and similar high-temp materials by preventing eddy vorticies from interfering with flow. I had no idea you could induce superconductivity in a different crystal through proximity. in fact all of the knowledge I have on the subject (I did my graduate thesis on YBCO thin films) tells me it shouldn't be possible.

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    3. Re:Irrelevant headline by Sarten-X · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is what I meant. That sentence was mangled several times while revising, and apparently I posted a few revisions too early.

      Technology-wise, this is an interesting discovery. It would have been equally interesting had the scientist used fly paper or chewing gum to hold the semiconductors together. Once upon a time, this site claimed to offer "news for nerds"... let's not water down the nerdy science with the lowest-common-denominator amazement that versatile materials have many uses.

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    4. Re:Irrelevant headline by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 4, Insightful

      HUH?! DO YOU WANT THE SOURCE CODE TO THE UNIVERSE NOW?!

      As a physicist by training, yes, that's exactly what I want.

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  2. Scotch Tape has been used before. by Llynix · · Score: 5, Interesting
  3. 2nd Summary by Bigby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it just me or is the 2nd summary deserving of its own post? A room temperature superconductor, if found and practical/abundant, would be one of the greatest discoveries in science.

    1. Re:2nd Summary by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, the high temp super conductor research is extremely speculative and not at all practical. Thats not to say it isn't interesting and doesn't raise interesting questions, it is and it does.

      The first problem is the practicality. The superconductivity they are reporting happens where two tiny grains of graphite meet (the soaking and baking part is, essentially, just to get them to meet in the right way, though I suppose trapped water molecules could also play a roll). Disturbing that interface destroys the superconductivity. There's no way to wire two points together using this effect, which makes it essentially useless from a practicality standpoint.

      Which leads directly to the research's speculative nature. They can't wire two points together (not even tiny, tiny lengths) so there's no way to actually measure the resistance. They are claiming superconductivity based on an observed phase transition in magnetic properties when a field is applied. The transition they see is consistent with superconductivity, but most people wouldn't call it a silver bullet, "yes we are absolutely sure" kind of evidence. It could be some other effect we don't know about, in which case - NEATO! something new to study, or it could be superconductivity, in which case - NEATO! we've proved room temperature superconductors are empirically possible, we have an example to study which might pave the way.

    2. Re:2nd Summary by MozeeToby · · Score: 3, Informative

      The cool thing about this is, if true, you could verify it in your kitchen.

      Not really, the superconductive spots are tiny, far too tiny to actually measure resistance across. The researchers are claiming superconductivity based on magnetic effects, which while very interesting, isn't exactly something you'd do in your kitchen.

  4. Re:Sometimes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember the 2010 Nobel prize winners in physics also used scotch tape to produce graphene, by peeling layers of carbon off of graphite:
    http://motherboard.vice.com/2010/10/7/physics-nobel-prize-winners-secret-scotch-tape--2

  5. Re:Sometimes by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Funny

    The glass slides in the experiment contained silica, the same common material in sand across the globe.

    There hasn't been any press release yet, but I suspect the scientist's underwear was made of cotton. That's right, the age-old textile material cotton has now found new use in the field of scientific research!

    Also, we're still waiting on confirmation that the building's electrical wiring contained copper, but there is speculation that it may have been contaminated by other metals, complicating the analysis.

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  6. Hot date by eclectro · · Score: 5, Funny

    a semiconductor that does not typically enjoy superconductivity.

    I didn't know semiconductors have fun.

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  7. In other news by AwesomeMcgee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Next up, Fision created with baking soda, and nobel prize winning physicists use tetris to complete the standard model.

  8. Re:Sometimes by virgnarus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe I am stretching things in this case, perhaps they should have used duct tape.

    Looks like a job for the Possum Lodge Institute of Science and Technology.

  9. Re:really, really want... by mark-t · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Don't hold your breath. There are three phenomena associated with superconductivity: zero resistance, the Meissner effect, and a superconducting phase transition. Only the last one has been observed so far in the graphite-based superconductor. But it's my understanding that it's only the first two that are practically useful. Either of the first two effects observed on a macroscopic level at room temperatures or above, and that is tractable to scale, would be utterly revolutionary, and the long-term impact on industrialized society would likely be beyond anything we've yet conceived.

    But yeah... I wouldn't hold my breath on this.

  10. The abstract on the work from Leipzig by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is the abstract from the work done in Leipzig. Also if you happen to have access to Wiley Online Library or Wiley InterScience you can read the full publication here, I don't so I am not sure if that gets you all the way there or not.

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