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Report Hints At Privacy Problem of Drones That Can Recognize Faces

New submitter inotrollyou writes "Drones are getting more sophisticated, and will soon carry 'soft' biometrics and facial recognition software. In other news, sales of hats, tinfoil, and laser pointers go up 150%. Obviously there are major privacy concerns and not everyone is down for this." It's not just drones, either: In my old neighborhood in Philadelphia the Orwellian police cameras were everywhere, and they're being touted as a solution for crime in my Texas neighborhood, too. The report itself is more predictive than proscriptive; under U.S. law, as the Register points out, you can expect less legal as well as practical privacy protection the further you are on the continuum between home and public space.

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  1. Privacy Burqas anyone? by glop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So the solution is simple. Let's all wear burqas to protect our privacy!
    I believe you can also analyze people's gaits and recognize them that way. So let's all use Segways.
    That would be a rather funny dystopian future, no?
    Or I guess we could start making a few laws defending our right to some anonymity.

    1. Re:Privacy Burqas anyone? by CRCulver · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So the solution is simple. Let's all wear burqas to protect our privacy!

      Maybe the "scramble suits" in Philip K. Dick's A Scanner Darkly , instead of being a sad manifestation of the author's mental illness as long thought, were an idea whose time is coming. On the other hand, many jurisdictions already have laws against walking around in a face mask of any kind.

    2. Re:Privacy Burqas anyone? by ryzvonusef · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You are looking for the Pixelated Mask/Balaclava

      http://www.martinbackes.com/new-artwork-pixelhead/

      One with a person actually wearing it:
      http://www.thelocal.de/society/20120823-44537.html

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    3. Re:Privacy Burqas anyone? by jbeaupre · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Easier solution: let it be known that cops are being replaced with cameras. Cops currently support the camera system under the belief it helps them do their job. But if they start to think it makes them obsolete....

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    4. Re:Privacy Burqas anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Not all of us turn into paranoid, illogical morons...

  2. Before anyone says 'Do nothing wrong ...." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Before anyone chimes in with "Do nothing wrong and you have nothing to worry about."

    A lawyer friend of mine cited a stat that on average, everyone breaks three laws per day because there are so many laws on the books. In other words, everyone is a criminal. And mix in municipalites with budget problems, well, you can just see ticketing machines like in "Demolition Man".

  3. The argument for the police state by Stirling+Newberry · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Is that everyone is strictly liable for everything. My car, parked in a garage, was hit while I was parked. The other driver just left, now I am left holding the deductible, and the insurance surcharge. In effect, this is going to cost me at least 1200 USD unless I can convince my insurance company –who would be the beneficiary of that 1200 dollars – to waive liability. But since no one saw, and there were no cameras, there's only forensic proof that I wasn't at fault. Which means having my solicitor argue in court, which costs money as well.

    However, if I had had a camera in my car recording everything, I would have had pictures of the person who did it, and they would be responsible for all of that. Hence, the victim of a crime, and a hit and run is a crime, has a very good reason for wanting a police state. They forget the little things they did to others, and remember only their own distress that someone robbed them of their property. As long as Americans, and I am specifically talking about the US here, are criminals, there is going to be a continual clamoring for more security, as long as everyone is personally responsible for everything. Every so often someone will find some deep pockets to go after, which leads to one of those silly sounding law suits –which sometimes are silly, but are often not as facile as their caricature.

    So that's the reality, as long as people who are taking every precaution get screwed by the wild westers out there, they will demand more protection, more security, and hence, fewer rights for all. Because real liberty comes with the price of responsibility, and Americans have long since decided they just don't want the responsibility, and would, instead, rather steal from each other.

    As for me, while this loss is annoying, it doesn't seem to me to be a good argument for more spy cams. But I'm not most people, having visited some unfree countries, where there is little crime, because the criminals are all wearing nice blue and green uniforms, and carrying automatic weapons.

  4. Re:What about *MY* drones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The government is not efficient enough, nor do they have the technical savvy, to use the vast majority of the data they collect."

    If you believe this you have been listening to too much media chatter. The government's "technical savvy" is as great as any available and its lack of "efficiency" just means that they are not constrained by limited resources.

    The problem with imagining distopian futures from fiction is that people always see themselves as the protagonist in the story. But the vast majority of people in these stories do not see themselves living in a distopia. They see it as normal. In the last 20 years, most people have lost almost all semblance of privacy and enormous resources, public and private, are going into obliterating whatever is left. The only thing protecting most of us is disinterest, No one cares about most of the details of our lives. Google doesn't really care whether you are visiting your grandma or your lover.

  5. The Real Question... by SuperCharlie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Who do you trust? That is the real question. We are a stones throw away from every aspect of our lives being recorded and monitored. Who do you trust with this information? Not who has the right to it, not what is public or private spaces, who would you hand your life to and say..here..have this.. everything I do, everywhere I go, everything I say, every dime I spend.. have this information of me. Do you trust the police? Would you readily hand this information to them? How about your state government? Maybe the FBI, CIA, NSA or any other 3-letter agency? Do you trust them with every detail of your life? Or maybe the Federal Govt? Do you trust them to use this information wisely and not abusively? The fact is every one of these entities and probably more will very soon have every piece of this information at their fingertips. So the question remains.. who do you trust? And it is being answered for us.