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Why America's School "Lag" Has Never Mattered

The Organization for Economic and Cooperation and Development (OECD), a forum of the top 34 developed economies, has released an annual education report, and guess what? The U.S. has once again ranked poorly in relation to many other developed countries. An article at TechCrunch argues that we needn't worry because it doesn't matter: "However, the report implies that education translates into gainful market skills, an assumption not found in the research. For instance, while Chinese students, on average, have twice the number of instructional hours as Americans, both countries have identical scores on tests of scientific reasoning. 'The results suggest that years of rigorous training of physics knowledge in middle and high schools have made significant impact on Chinese students’ ability in solving physics problems, while such training doesn’t seem to have direct effects on their general ability in scientific reasoning, which was measured to be at the same level as that of the students in USA,' wrote a team of researchers studying whether Chinese superiority in rote scientific knowledge translated into the kinds of creative thinking necessary for innovation."

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  1. The real problem with these studies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is that they report the mean result, when they really should focus on something like the mean of the uppermost quartile, or somesuch.

    You don't need the whole herd to drive innovation - you need just need to make sure you have a critical mass of sufficiently creative and intelligent people.

  2. School is NOT to train workers!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What matters is not that we're the best, but that we're good enough - to maintain nutrition, health and shelter. Everything else can be done at leisure.

    Was it Finland or some other Scandinavian country where the goal of their education system was sorta like that? Just teach the kids, let the kids be the kids and the learning will come.

    As a result, not only do the kids actually learn but the kids are happier and more creative because they are allowed to let their minds roam and just be kids and NOT BE FUTURE WORKERS IN TRAINING.

    School is to have an educated electorate: not for free training for business.

    If businesses can't find people who are trained well enough for them, then they need to go all old school: train them. D'uh!

    Again, socializing the costs (in this case job training) and privatizing the profits.

    "I don't want America to be like Europe!"

    Famous Presidential candidate.

    Indeed.

    1. Re:School is NOT to train workers!!!!! by KalvinB · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Finland allows teachers half of their paid time to prep and collaborate with parents and peers. They actually respect them.

      There are buckets of problems with the US education system. I'm certified to teach HS Math and have a master's in sec ed and a BA in math. I'm spending the next year exploring my options for what can be done to make teaching not be a crappy work environment. In the mean time I'm web developer making good money so I have no rush to change careers. I'm happily volunteering my time to work with kids. I have a lot more freedom to experiment that way.

  3. Falacy of the Average by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The ratings you see in the OECD summary are averages. The thing is that the US has a much more diverse population and spread in economic status than most other, often much smaller countries in this measurement.

    Results in US suburban schools are generally as good as the top rated countries, and the results of the top students in these schools ranks very highly indeed.

    In any society you don't really need that many innovators to propel growth - and the US has a good population of high achievers due to the broadness of the distribution of educational results it gets.

    The real problem with US society is the size of the tail on the other side of the curve. This represents a real drag on the US economy.

  4. Re:Charter gets better results? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about we roll back that premise first, because they don't.

    Yes they do. And they don't. It all depends on how you interpret the statistics. Charter schools tend to be located in poor and minority areas (because there is more demand for them there), which lowers their average results. On the other hand, more motivated parents are likely to choose charter schools over public schools, which raises their results. By correcting for one of these factors, but not the other, it is easy to skew the results either way.

    From what I can see, charter schools don't make much difference in student performance, but they do tend to give comparable results at significantly lower cost. So they still offer some advantages over traditional public schools.