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Ubuntu Will Now Have Amazon Ads Pre-Installed

An anonymous reader writes "Scheduled to be released next month, Ubuntu 12.10 now includes both Amazon ads in the user's dash and by default an Amazon store in the user's launcher. The reason for these 'features'? Affiliate revenue. Despite previous controversies with Banshee and Yahoo, Canonical is 'confident it will be an interesting and useful feature for our 12.10 users.' But are the 'users' becoming products?" Update: 09/22 19:35 GMT by T : Reader bkerensa scoffs, calling the Amazon integration unobtrusive, and says objections to its inclusion in the OS should be ignored, "because in reality ads will not be found in 12.10 unless you are seeing them on a third party website you go to in a web browser." He's got screenshots.

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  1. I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mass migration in 3...2...1...

    1. Re:I see by rubycodez · · Score: 5, Insightful

      you mean the second one, of those people remaining after the Unity / GNOME3 rendered any concept of multi-task workflow useless

      stick a fork in Canonical, they are done

    2. Re:I see by Gordonjcp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      after the Unity / GNOME3 rendered any concept of multi-task workflow useless

      What's "useless" about it? It works just fine here...

    3. Re:I see by jbicha · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because the MATE developers don't know what they're doing... Attempting to maintain all of GNOME 2 by themselves has always been a stupid decision.

    4. Re:I see by TwilightXaos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is Linux. Distro is a proper subset of Settings.

    5. Re:I see by slack_justyb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I second Gordonjcp! About 80% of the complaints that I've heard about Unity are just pure bunk. Many of the warehouses that I oversee have Ubuntu 12.04 with the Unity interface for many of the order processing stations and users have had great experiences with Unity. Additionally, I know many of the javascript developers in our IT department to be using Ubuntu 12.04 with the Unity UI. Never have heard a peep from them, more so, they get to choose the OS they want to use and they choose Ubuntu and Unity, that should say something.

      Honestly, I think there's just a bunch of old timers that just object to everything that isn't GNOME 2 or KDE 3. To them that was the high point in desktop environments. They simply need to get over themselves.

  2. Honestly not that bad by TechieRefugee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It really isn't. I mean come on, a distro as large as Ubuntu is gonna need revenue from places other than donations. And, as long as it isn't too obtrusive in the UI, I won't really complain about it. Besides, there's always other flavors of Ubuntu which may have the ad feature removed.

    1. Re:Honestly not that bad by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And, as long as it isn't too obtrusive in the UI,

      surely you mean, "as long as I can easily uninstall it"? I'm not one to complain about Canonical trying to generate revenue, and I'd leave the ads there initially, but if they annoy me, I want to option to easily remove them. Otherwise... new distro!

    2. Re:Honestly not that bad by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are you reading the same Slashdot I am? Because the only comments I'm reading that aren't scorning the idea are those from people who want to devote their comments to Unity and how much that sucks instead.

      And speaking for myself... I have no objection to Ubuntu shipping with an Amazon store of some kind, but ads is another thing. I'll use 12.04 for as long as necessary, and switch to Mint in the long term, if that happens.

      I've stuck with Ubuntu for a while. I'm ambivalent about Unity, largely because I respect what they're trying to do but feel the UI just isn't there yet, and because, in terms of my own workflow, I actually get a better desktop because of their work (GNOME 3 with Unity's menu system and some other widgets actually works well for me.)

      I want to upgrade, because there are issues in 12.04. The system doesn't fully support MTP for example, meaning I need to install hacky, barely working, packages just to transfer files from my Galaxy Nexus. I was looking forward to an upgrade, albeit with some concern that the GNOME+Unity mixture might finally break with this release.

      Ads? No, that's the last straw. I'm happy with all kinds of revenue streams, even the infamous "swapping in Canonical's affiliate id into Banshee" incident. But I'm tired of every two bit marketer out there refusing to accept that at some point they have to ask for money, and insisting - INSISTING - that ads be foisted upon their users instead, especially in an era where advertisers are either clueless, or sociopathic, and think nothing of transmitting a highbandwidth presentation with audio without warning to their hapless victims.

      Now, I should add this: yes, I understand Canonical is grasping around at the moment trying to find something that works. The cloud storage thing was probably looking good until Google and Apple jumped into that realm. The music store, well, maybe not so much as Amazon's been there from the start with a superb MP3 store. But you have to at least work from the premise of being rewarded for adding value. When your chosen revenue generator removes value, users go elsewhere. And especially in an open source environment, you're fooling yourself if you think you can remove value and get away with it. Mint exists because many Ubuntu users perceived Canonical as removing value from Ubuntu by moving away from GNOME 2. If Mint didn't already exist, putting ads in Ubuntu would result in its creation tomorrow morning.

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  3. Well, then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Fuck you, Ubuntu.

  4. Re:Profit! by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't want to scare you, but there are already dozens of those.

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  5. But are the 'users' becoming products? by overshoot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's a hint: if you're not paying for it, you are the product.

    This has very obviously been Microsoft's business model for operating systems from the very beginning: they don't sell the OS to you, they sell you to the OEMs.

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    1. Re:But are the 'users' becoming products? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's a hint: if you're not paying for it, you are the product.

      I do not pay for this:

      https://www.scientificlinux.org/

      Somehow, I do not think that Fermilab or CERN view me as the product.

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  6. Re:Easily disabled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your grandma also doesn't care if these ads exist.

  7. Two points here by rumith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1) Remember, while most geeks will either be annoyed or even outright disgusted of this move, this is exactly the kind of thing that gets an operating system rolling for the wider audiences (IMO) and adds economical grounds for further expansion. Could this also be Amazon testing the potential of making Ubuntu a partner OS, since they currently lack a desktop operating system integrated with their online shopping "experience"? Maybe.
    2) However what I know for sure is that this feature is likely to be US-only (unfortunately for those international Ubuntu users who prefer buying their music instead of pirating them), as is much of Amazon's stock. I mean, come on. I know that overseas shipping of physical items is hard, but working out the paperwork with the studios for selling a damn file? How hard can that be?

    1. Re:Two points here by rubycodez · · Score: 3, Insightful

      no, Ubuntu's only viable option for cash flow is larger acceptance into corporate workplace. The huge user base is what got them to the top & to be noticed. if they cut that off (continue the mass exodus that Unity started), then there will be no one pushing it in the corproate environment and Canonical will die. good riddance.

  8. He who pays, owns. by goodmanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is not just annoying, it's the beginning of the end of Ubuntu as free software. No matter how unobtrusive the ads are, if Amazon is paying Ubuntu, Ubuntu is bound to become dependent on that cash stream, which means Amazon controls what happens to Ubuntu. And Amazon has shown little interest in the future of free software.

    Now, this isn't entirely a new thing: companies like IBM and Google have been paying for Linux development (in the form of hiring Linux developers) for years. But when an entire distro is financially captured by the biggest online retailer on the planet... that's something new.

  9. ubuntu forgets the one thing by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    all the people who run it, but never paid, are not "freeloaders", they are the massive user base that gave the Ubuntu distro momentum and pushed it to the top of linux distros. they got it into the corporate workplace (my employer uses Ubuntu), they make the helpful forum posts, etc.

    your monetizing needs to be done outside of those people, it's done with services, support, add-ons for the corporate environment, etc.

  10. So you donated? Or just pretend? by raymorris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So the while time you've been using Linux you've been paying, donating to your favorite projects, right? You've always had the opportunity to pay. If someone hasn't donated even $10 ever, I'd say that means they'd rather let it come to this. Users have always had the choice. If you'd rather pay, apt-remove and donate to an ad-free project. I'm about to eat breakfast. I'm a Linux developer. Breakfast costs money. If you'd rather pay, then do so. Lunch is coming up in a few hours and it has to be paid for somehow.

  11. Re:Easily disabled by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just open up a terminal? My grandma is not going to "just open up a terminal". That doesn't count as "trivial to remove", sorry.

    You almost had me, but everyone knows that anonymous cowards don't have parents.

    Seriously though, if you didn't set up your Grandma's machine to be remotely administered by you when you installed it, then you probably aren't qualified to be using slashdot. Or a web browser. Or a computer. Or your thumbs. You log in remotely, you run the command, the problem goes away. Also, if your grandmother can't click the terminal, copy and paste the command, and answer yes to any prompts, then she probably shouldn't have Ubuntu. She should probably have Android, or even iOS. She needs her hand held. There's nothing wrong with that, and it should be accounted for. How do you think this theoretical grandmother (since we've already established that you don't have one, since there is no you) would react to Windows crapware? You think she could figure out how to remove programs from Windows 7 or 8? You think she could manage to uninstall the right thing? Give it a rest.

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  12. Re:Is it only in Unity? by couchslug · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's Linux.

    You can disable any adverts easily, and run the WM of your choice WITHOUT switching distros.

    You aren't stuck with defaults as you are with Windows.

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  13. Unity's pretty good by Compaqt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought that all features (which use compositing) weren't enabled when you used a VM. Maybe it would have been different if you tried it on a separate partition on the bare metal.

    Anyway, as a non-noob user (developer) I'm here to say that Unity as of 12.04 is pretty good for power users and developers.

    From my perspective, Unity is pretty good for multitasking workflows. In the earlier versions, Unity was useless for multiple workspaces because you could basically only have one copy of a program usefully running.

    In the current version, there are indicators that tell you if one copy of a program is running, or two, or more. And if it's on the current workspace or not.

    Although I had thought that I would hate it, it's actually pretty good, because 95% of the time you want to work with the apps, files, and programs you were most recently working with. Also, the Alt+Tab and Alt+` works well. They're basically integrated together so you can move out of one mode to the other (once you're in Alt+Tab or Alt+` mode, try using the arrow keys).

    Also, one misapprehension I had about Unity was that youd have a huge number of icons down the left side. But since you only have one icon per program (instead of per window), it's not bad.

    Finally, you should install Cardapio. It gives you a hierarchical (organized by category) menu of applications so you don't have to know the name of app before you search for it (a major complaint about Unity).

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  14. Re:Uninstall? by Cinder6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Because you're not "making use of" the system, you're abusing it.

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  15. Complain now, or you will get overrun by ads!!! by Nyder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm going to give you some advice. This is based on history.

    If you do NOT complain about the ads in Ubuntu now it's going to get worse. Way worse. This is a toe testing the water. Make the water way the fuck too cold now. If not, you will find, in probably a year, the every linux distro will have ads, and not only in small places. It will ruin linux.

    You think I'm wrong? oh no, the greed of the people say this will not stop and only get worse.

    This will ruin linux for ever. People will associate linux with ads. MS will say, by a Ad Free OS, not Ad Infested Linux. And worse, Linux distros will start selling Ad Free versions.

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