Apple Wants Another $707 Million From Samsung

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Apple Wants Another $707 Million From Samsung

Posted by timothy on Sunday September 23, 2012 @09:07PM from the as-do-we-all dept.

angry tapir writes "A California jury may have awarded Apple more than US$1 billion in damages in late August when it triumphed over Samsung in a hard-fought case over smartphone and tablet patents, but the iPhone maker is coming back for more: late last week it asked for additional damages of $707 million. The request includes an enhanced award of $535 million for willful violation of Apple's designs and patents, as well as about $172 million in supplemental damages based on the fact that the original damages were calculated on Samsung's sales through June 30."

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Squeezed for cash? by Quakeulf · 2012-09-23 21:15 · Score: 5, Interesting

I didn't think Apple was doing that badly that they have to litigate others for cash to stay relevant. Oh wait, maybe they are doing it to make the others strapped for cash! Or wait, maybe there isn't even a point in doing this. Maybe they should all hold hands and be happy instead. :3
1. Re:Squeezed for cash? by Nerdfest · 2012-09-23 21:58 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  This is what happens when you give into a terrorist's demands. You get more demands, closely followed by more terrorists. Blame it on the patent system all you want, it existed for a long time without companies behaving like Apple.
2. Re:Squeezed for cash? by greentshirt · 2012-09-23 22:03 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  Very simple, actually. Capitalism with limits. You put a floating cap on profits, tied to measures such as the crime rate and the wealth gap; and put a cap on personal wealth. It doesn't have to be a low cap, say $20 million dollars. Or $50 million. Fuck, make it an even $100 million dollars and raise it every year with inflation. Then watch society transform.
3. Re:Squeezed for cash? by PopeRatzo · 2012-09-24 01:02 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  In this story alone we have posts claiming settlement money is needed to keep Apple afloat and Apple are terrorists.
  That's just silly. Everyone knows that Apple's just trying to make sure they don't have to compete.
  Competition is a pesky thing when you're on top. It's sort of the consumer electronics equivalent of the 1927 Yankees having the entire Philadelphia Athletics team killed on the way to the ball-park.
  I mean, you're already 19 games ahead, but a little insurance is always good. And ultimately, it's not about winning, it's about humiliating the competition and making sure you win forever without having to try so hard.
  It makes me understand why not everyone is comfortable having a businessman as president.
  
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Hard to like Apple any longer by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-23 21:17 · Score: 5, Insightful

Sorry to all the Apple fanboys out there, but it becomes increasingly hard to feel any sympathies for Apple. Seems that Apple's fame is slowly declining...
1. Re:Hard to like Apple any longer by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-23 21:33 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Yup, I share your sentiment. Apple is increasingly becoming a downright scary company, Perhaps *all* their staff should watch those "think different" ads again. The company seems to be almost aiming for a Big Brother badge these days.
I am but a small cog by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-23 21:23 · Score: 5, Insightful

But hope that my action of replacing my broken 2007 MacBook Pro (yes, the Nvidia chip and out of warranty) with a PC will help send a message to Apple.
No more Apple devices in my home.
New positions? by SiriusStarr · 2012-09-23 21:24 · Score: 5, Funny

They have to pay for the ex-Google Mappers somehow. It's either that or convince people to start renaming continents.

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The real news is Samsung's motion by robbak · 2012-09-23 21:32 · Score: 5, Informative

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120922171505170
The real news is Samsung's motion for JMOL or a new trial. This verdict is hopelessly inconsistent and compromised - the statements made by the jury foreman are hard to believe! - that there is no chance of it standing. If sane, Apple would admit that, argue that the verdict should be tossed in it's entirety, so the important points in Samsung's favor are lost as well, and keep it's powder dry for round 2. I'm not holding my breath for that, as they have shown a willingness to argue that the sky is green from day 1.

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Apple may have a problem, Houston... by Torinir · 2012-09-23 21:32 · Score: 5, Informative

Apple might have a hard time asking for more money from that judgment when Samsung has valid claims which could lead to a retrial.
http://www.groklaw.net/pdf4/ApplevSamsung-1990Samsung50and59motions.pdf
Of note: the table of references point to cases of jury misconduct, even though the arguments by Samsung were redacted. Bet on this judgment being tossed out fast.
Not so funny anymore by Damouze · 2012-09-23 21:44 · Score: 5, Insightful

How about the millions of damages for the idea of a tablet computer, posthumously, to Stanley Kubrick and Arthur C. Clarke?

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Re:Obligatory Ice-T by Anonymous Coward · 2012-09-23 22:06 · Score: 5, Insightful

Why shouldn't we hate the players? The players spend millions upon millions lobbying to change the rules of the game in their favor, often at the expensive of innovation.
I know it's fun to mindlessly spout clíchés, but they're not always true.
I can very well hate the player by Sycraft-fu · 2012-09-23 22:55 · Score: 5, Interesting

Apple decided to go nuclear, and it is likely to backfire on them. While the patent system is broken for sure, most other large companies seemed to use stupid patents largely defensively. They'd patent everything under the sun so that if someone came after them, they could counter with thousands of patents and see what stuck. In terms of legit patents, they'd do cross licensing.
Not Apple, they've decided to go nuclear on other players. Sue them for stupid amounts of money, declare nobody can make anything that looks like an Apple product, and so on. They raised the stakes, and thus things are getting nasty.
So we sure can, and will, hate on Apple.
Try to keep up ... by Zero__Kelvin · 2012-09-23 23:31 · Score: 5, Insightful

Bullshit. I am not saying that the Patent dispute is valid. What I am saying is that Apple makes hardware and software and sells it. It is not correct to say that defending their patents is how they make their money. What you are thinking of is a patent troll. You cannot expect any company to ignore patent violations, and you cannot fault any company for refusing to ignore them. Unless that company is a patent troll, any claim that they make their money through patent lawsuits is ridiculous. Apple makes their money by designing and selling computer systems.

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good research to support smaller wage disparity by Chirs · 2012-09-24 02:52 · Score: 5, Informative

There's a fair bit of research showing that well-being is related inversely to the difference in income between the richest and poorest people in a society. The smaller the difference, the better off people are.