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A Suicide Goes Viral On the Internet

Hugh Pickens writes "Will Oremus reports that Fox News showed a grisly spectacle Friday afternoon during a live car chase when the suspect got out of his car, stumbled down a hillside, pulled a gun, and shot himself in the head. As the scene unfolded, Fox News anchor Shepard Smith grew increasingly apprehensive, then yelled 'get off it, get off it!,' belatedly urging the show's producers to stop the live feed as it became obvious the man was going to do something rash. Fox News cut awkwardly to a commercial just after showing his death and after Fox aired the on-air suicide, Smith apologized to viewers, saying, 'We really messed up.' However BuzzFeed immediately posted the footage on YouTube, where it garnered more than 1,000 'likes' in under an hour, sparking immediate blowback. 'Who's worse? @FoxNews for airing the suicide, or @BuzzFeed for re-posting the video just in case you missed it the first time?' posted the Columbia Journalism Review. Gawker's Hamilton Nolan called his site's decision to post the video 'ethical,' because 'it is news' but research suggests that graphic depictions of suicide in the media can spur copycat suicides, especially among young people, and the World Health Organization's guidelines warn against sensationalizing it. Virtually everyone who has studied it agrees that, at a minimum, suicides should be covered with a modicum of sensitivity and context (PDF). 'Of course it's news that Fox News accidentally aired the video. And you can make a good case that Fox was inviting this type of debacle with its habit of airing live car-chase feeds. But Fox couldn't have known that it was about to air a suicide. BuzzFeed, by contrast, knew exactly what it was doing,' writes Oremus. 'That might be good business for BuzzFeed, but it's hard to see the benefit for anyone else.'"

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  1. Calm before the hyperbole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Before anyone starts jumping on Fox News for whatever axe they have to grind with them, please substitute Fox News with "CNN" or "MSNBC" and ask yourself if your vitriol would be just the same.

    1. Re:Calm before the hyperbole by LehiNephi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Good point. It also sounds like at least some of the folks at Fox were trying to prevent the footage from going live, and they apologized immediately afterward. Buzzfeed, on the other hand, deliberately posted the footage with full knowledge of its contents.

      I think Fox has the moral (relative) high ground here.

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    2. Re:Calm before the hyperbole by bondsbw · · Score: 5, Informative

      My understanding is that they attempted to put it on a 5 second delay, but the delay didn't kick in. So it was live, and by the time they knew to cut it, it was too late.

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    3. Re:Calm before the hyperbole by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My understanding is that they attempted to put it on a 5 second delay, but the delay didn't kick in. So it was live, and by the time they knew to cut it, it was too late.

      The questions remains: why did they air that chase anyway? Because its journalism? Or because its sensationalism? Did they show it because they thought the guy would just stop the car and surrender, or because they hoped for some nice crashes (where you could pretend that nobody died) that they should over and over again, spinning it off into some Fox reality show? Sure, other channels would (or actually) have done the same - but its still not really news.

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    4. Re:Calm before the hyperbole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Of course they aired it because it was exciting, and statistically, suicides are rare.

      On April 30, 1998, I decided to ditch the latter half of the school day with my girlfriend. On the news was the long, drawn-out suicide of Daniel Victor Jones [ WARNING: GRAPHIC! ] who was an AIDS patient protesting, on the Los Angeles' 710 freeway, teh lack of care he received through an HMO. The part that the video does not show is that he gets in his truck with his dog before he sets the truck on fire, then runs out of the flaming truck shutting the door behind him so that his dog dies in the inferno.

      Then, he gets his shotgun and blows his head off. All of this was televised LIVE on the news, which caused the news networks to actually put counselors on the air after the incident, it was a huge shitstorm.

      As for me, I felt sick to my stomach for the rest of the day. My girlfriend said, "well, that fucker deserved it. Let's go get some KFC. " I told her, "you want to eat right after watching a grizzly live suicide?!" She said, "Yeah, why not? He deserved it, burning his dog like that. Let's go to KFC."

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    5. Re:Calm before the hyperbole by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Informative

      ArcherB goes on slashdot to deliberately misstate sections of the suit.

      Yeah, that's actually true.

      Here's the crucial bit from the appeal:
      (taken from the wiki article on the subject, that cites numerous sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Akre )

      An appeal was filed, and a ruling in February 2003 came down in favor of WTVT, who successfully argued that the FCC policy against falsification was not a "law, rule, or regulation", and so the whistle-blower law did not qualify as the required "law, rule, or regulation" under section 448.102 of the Florida Statutes. ... Because the FCC's news distortion policy is not a "law, rule, or regulation" under section 448.102 of the Florida Statutes, Akre has failed to state a claim under the whistle-blower's statute." The appeal did not address any falsification claims, noting that "as a threshold matter ... Akre failed to state a claim under the whistle-blower's statute," but noted that the lower court ruled against all of Wilson's charges and all of Akre's claims with the exception of the whistleblower claim that was overturned.

      Thus, the right to lie. The court determined that Akre was not eligible to be covered by the whistleblower law because the FCC's policy against lying was not a law. Thus, they can broadcast a false news story and there's no law preventing it, nor can you be protected from being fired by whistleblower laws if you refuse to go along with it.

      Fox and its affiliates are safe.

    6. Re:Calm before the hyperbole by djlowe · · Score: 5, Funny

      She said, "Yeah, why not? He deserved it, burning his dog like that."

      I agree with your girlfriend and would like to subscribe to her newsletter.

    7. Re:Calm before the hyperbole by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course they aired it because it was exciting, and statistically, suicides are rare.

      Sure, but why was it exciting? Only because there were lives at stake. No matter how you frame it, that's why people tune in. That's also why you have so many medical and police shows on TV but so few accounting shows - people are more interested when lives are at stake, even in fiction. So you can't just say "oh, but it rarely happens" when this sort of possible outcome (death) is precisely why the guy was being filmed in the first place. Otherwise you might as well follow some random lawful driver with a camera and narrate his actions ("seems like he's now stopping at a drug store... what is he buying? Is that anal lube? Do we have a confirmation that it's anal lube? Oh, ok, it's just toothpaste. Right. Back to him, he's about to leave the drug store and I don't want to miss the moment he brushes his teeth, when we'll find out if he flosses or not.)"

      I'm not even against showing that sort of thing on TV. It's happening in a public space and people want to watch it, so let them. But this meaningless dance of "oh, we're sorry, we didn't really mean to show you what happened" is borderline unbelievable for a "news" channel that have been showing (and speculating on) every detail of the chase up until that point.

    8. Re:Calm before the hyperbole by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well in the case of CNN or MSNBC, no one would likely be watching to see it in the first place!

      But seriously, how many graphic depictions of murder and death were aired on prime time that very night? If you didn't know the footage was really and that someone was actually dying, it would most likely be less grisly than the shit you see on an average night of CSI. But the violence isn't so funny anymore when it's real? Perhaps we should think about our values as a society. It seems rather hypocritical to imagine all manner of mayhem, and then turn away in horror at the sight of a little real mayhem. If you think it's terrible that you might accidentally see some guy splatter his brains on the ground on the news, imagine what your average soldier goes through in an average day in Afghanistan, and yet we're fine with demanding that of them.

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    9. Re:Calm before the hyperbole by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Anyone who can't distinguish between fiction and reality need to get some help, and fast.

      Tell that to those fascists that want to ban cartoon depictions of underage sex.

  2. You can't show suicide by future+assassin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    in a world full of war for the purpose of promoting democracy where thousands of civilians die from the fighting or aftermath? Oh yah we don't directly see it so its ok.... Out of sight out of mind.

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  3. Re:Copycat suicides by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So tired of the "Darwin" meme. It expresses a sense of smug superiority that is entirely undeserved.

  4. Re:Shocking to watch live by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    strictly from a visual perspective

    Unless the viewer is a psychopath (in the clinical sense) that is never how it works.

    Grow a pair

    Grow up.

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  5. Re:Some Middle Ground by kae77 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I work with youth, and so I feel your pain on this one. In my local town last year there was nearly a dozen suicides, and none of them were broadcast or publicized in any way. That being said, the research, professionally and anecdotally, shows that if you broadcast or glorify the person who has committed suicide, there will be others. Almost do a disproportionate level. Even without the broadcasting, there were copycats or others suicides that were clearly and directly linked to prior ones. It has a lot to do with developing minds, and how some teenagers have a fragile sense of self-worth. Their social setting drastically affects the way they view the world, and if all they want is to be noticed, and they see someone who has committed suicide being glorified, or even lifted above the situation, some people take action to get the same attention. It's a tricky line to walk, and one that is very much in contention. One thing to make clear though: Just because it's not publicized doesn't mean it is swept under the rug. Counsellors, friends, communities are very much involved in those who are left in the wake of a suicide, and that effort goes unpublicized as much as the suicide itself. It is a long, hard journey for everyone involved.

  6. FoxNews shows reality - apologizes immediately by tp1024 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ironic, isn't it?

  7. Re:Copycat suicides by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes, nobody who dies from suicide could possibly have ever contributed anything to the benefit of society.

  8. Re:Copycat suicides by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's face it: suicide happens. You'll get far more suicides happening by not talking about it than you will by revealing the truth to people - even if a few copycat suicides in the immediate aftermath are inevitable. Hint: people don't just kill themselves because they've seen a death, but may simply have seen a method for doing something they wanted to do anyway.

    This is true, but they've noticed correlations between different ways that suicide is discussed and the suicide rate following it. The suicide rate tends to go down if it is discussed in a way that includes urging people who are thinking about it to get help. However, when someone's glorified for their suicide and no one says to get help if you're thinking about it, suicide rates tend to go up. Of course, that's all just correlation, not causation, but it is interesting.

  9. They were lucky. by arthurpaliden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I could have been much, much worse it could have been a woman exposing her breasts after she got out of the car. Then Fox News would be in real big trouble.

  10. Re:Copycat suicides by Kevin+Fishburne · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The good news is that invoking the Darwin meme doesn't make one immune from it.

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  11. Re:Copycat suicides by asmkm22 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Darwin Award is fine. It's just when people use the title where it wouldn't apply. You don't simply kill yourself and get an "award." You kill yourself in some kind of spectacularly stupid way, that results in your accidental death, implying that you just took place in natural selection.

    A dude shooting himself in the head is just a suicide.

  12. Re:Copycat suicides by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's funny, because the societies that protect the weak tend to be the strongest in the world, while those that persecute the weak tend to end up in the dustbin of history. Perhaps this is because a compassionate society that cares for its weaker members makes everyone stronger. And perhaps mental illness doesn't hurt society nearly as much as the traits of indifference and contempt.

  13. Re:Copycat suicides by macinnisrr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The music industry, in attempting to sell the world "the next nirvana" was what ruined POP MUSIC during the 90's. If that's all you listened to, that's your fault. Kurt Cobain was an artist in the truest sense of the word, caring about nothing other than creating what he saw as art.

  14. Re:Copycat suicides by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When a society is successful, it finally has the luxury of protecting its weakest members. You may have your cause and effect reversed.

  15. Re:Shocking to watch live by psiclops · · Score: 5, Insightful

    why does it need to be removed? if you don't want to see it - don't watch it.
    if you don't want other people to see it - 1. don't post links to it and 2. stop trying to control what other people can and cannot willingly see.

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