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Does Crowdfunding Work?

Barence writes "Is it really practical to fund a business from hundreds of small donations harvested over the internet? With Kickstarter grabbing the headlines with some high-profile projects, it's all too easy to assume crowdfunding is great, the obvious solution for a business that needs investment. But just how feasible is it for most businesses? This article looks at several lower-profile examples and investigates the positives and negatives of this new way to raise money."

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  1. Re:No. This is how it goes... by wjsteele · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And then said "Famous douchebag" posts your message as an A/C on Slashdot.

    Man, I just wish I had mod points.

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  2. Re:No. This is how it goes... by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Obviously there are a lot of people who won't get any kind of funding and that's perfectly normal, it'd be a pretty strange world if everyone got the money they asked for. That doesn't say much about the relative merits of crowdfunding versus investor funding.

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  3. No. by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, for most people and businesses it does not work. You have only to look at the other 99.9% of projects on kickstarter to see that.

    Side note: anything that links to pc pro is probably *not* something we should consider news for nerds.

    1. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would agree with that. I have a project on Kickstarter that we will likely remove because we couldn't get it funded. There is absolutely no traffic to it and we're now exploring other avenues of funding.

      If you get picked up by Kickstarter and featured on the homepage, you will be funded. If you don't, then you have to go back to traditional marketing and advertising to get your product off the ground. Nothing has changed in business yet.

      http://kck.st/QGWick

  4. In short, yes, it does work. by wjsteele · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If the project is well thought out and the pitch is done reasonably well so that the the funder knows what they are getting into, then yes, it does work.

    As a kickstarter myself (shameless plug: Ultra-Bot) I started out with a modest goal... and quickly achieved it with a product that I think was well thought out, had reasonably low expectations and offered the intended audience exactly what they wanted.

    With that said, however, there are a few kickstarters that are way off the mark and haven't thought it out that well... usually because they have their emotions tied into the product and it really isn't as good as they think it is... which in that case, Kickstarter actually works as well... it allows you to know that your idea isn't so hot before you invest a billion bucks in it.

    Bill

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  5. Long article; short TLDR by vlm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Its a long winded article, the short TLDR is crowdfunding is the hip new term for the middle aged concert ticket business model which is based on the ancient business model of patronage. Some things like films work really well with a concert ticket / patronage model, almost everything else, not so well.

    I've crowd funded a couple films. Mostly tech. Mostly tech documentaries directed by Jason Scott. I'm eagerly awaiting the release of 6502, for which I donated a healthy chunk of change. So I have some experience with this business model, and I like it.

    I basically paid "an entire row of movie theater tickets" for a documentary I really want to see, done by a guy with a proven track record of decent tech documentaries. Needless to say the local theater is totally uninterested in taking a couple hundred bucks to put my taste of movie on instead of the bubblegum for the mind they specialize in. I literally cannot get the local movie theater to take my money. But via crowdfunding over the internet, I can finally get someone to take my money.

    Crowdfunding really works best when there is no way to get "the locals" or the "established companies" to take my money. There are VERY FEW areas where this actually works. There are no shortage of pizza restaurants around here... crowdfunding a "pizza startup" isn't going to work. Or yet another web 2.0 company following existing trends.

    Another thing you need is fanatics... Where mass industry collides with supply and demand. I'm more than willing to give away $15 for Stross's latest novel. Heck I'd give him $50. There is no known business model where I can give a book author $35 more than list price other than crowdfunding.

    Finally crowdfunding works well in a gift economy. My wife got me a package deal with some custom signed artwork a couple years ago as a gift. Awesome, but out of pocket I would not have dropped that kind of dough for myself. Right now is prime gift giving time for Christmas, maybe even a little late, so you're going to see crowdfunding articles peak around this time of year.

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  6. wrong question by DevilM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think the question should be can you raise money for your business (or idea) with crowd funding. I think the question should be, is crowd funding intelligent enough to pick winners and losers? Most popularity contests are won by the superficial as opposed to substance.

    1. Re:wrong question by brit74 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A little viral marketing, and you have $50-100k in no time because a buck is nothing to people and you are never scrutinized for wanting some pocket change.

      Honestly, I think it's about a hundred times more difficult to get something to go viral than this sentence suggests.

  7. Kickstarter replaces IPO by udachny · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This comment is on the issue of the market solving the problem of government meddling with raising funds with this kickstarter project. I do not know if all companies can benefit from kickstarter, but surely some can. Today trying to get a business loan is an exercise in futility as the government crowds out all of the real credit, so none is available to the small firms, startups. The startups have to rely on VCs, friends, family, angel investors, but the rest of the market (almost all small time investors) are prevented from investing in companies while there is a potential for a real upside. The government regulations surrounding IPO prevent small investors from being able to get into businesses while there is actual upside, instead it is VCs (and underwriter banks) that mostly gain from IPOs and the IPO becomes a way to cash out instead of a way to try and grow a new business.

    Kickstarter is a good first idea that allows people to invest into businesses before they could ever qualify for IPO money. Of-course there is risk in using kickstarter to try and invest, but there should be risk, people should be evaluating risks instead of blindly jumping into the casino that the inflation turned the stock market into.

    1. Re:Kickstarter replaces IPO by DevilM · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Correction: You are not investing via Kickstarter... you get no equity for your money. Real crowd funding will start January 1, 2013 when non-accredited investors can start buying equity in startups.

    2. Re:Kickstarter replaces IPO by jfengel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, the SEC limits your ability to raise funds in exchange for equity. The rules are (surprise, surprise) complex, but if you're asking people to invest who aren't principals of the company, they need to be "accredited investors":

      http://www.sec.gov/answers/accred.htm

      The idea had been to prevent people from being bamboozled into making bad investments. With Kickstarter, right now, you're being told explicitly: this is not an investment. It's a gift, with token prizes, not a piece of the action. "Accredited investors" are rich enough that they can afford to absorb losses. That changes next year with the JOBS act:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumpstart_Our_Business_Startups_Act

      There is some concern that it will be used for fraud, as people give a lot of money for impossible returns. I think those concerns are well-founded, but we'll have to see. It might just be our next bubble.

  8. Numbers? by brit74 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That article was remarkably free of actual numbers. I was hoping for some statistics. Speaking of which, here's an article about Kickstarter projects that I read a while back ( http://www.appsblogger.com/behind-kickstarter-crowdfunding-stats/ ). They included some actual numbers - for example: "Projects that are featured have a 89% chance of being successful, compared to 30% without." (I presume that means "featured on the Kickstarter homepage".) The downside to that statistic is that, as more projects appear on Kickstarter, the smaller percentage of them will be on the front page (because there's limited space). If that's true, it means the percentage of successful Kickstarter projects will decline as more projects appear on Kickstarter.