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HP Plans To Cut Product Lines; Company Turnaround In 2016

dcblogs writes "Hewlett-Packard CEO Meg Whitman told financial analysts today that it will take until 2016 to turn the company around. Surprisingly, Whitman put some of the blame for the company's woes on its IT systems, which she said have hurt its internal operations. To fix its IT problems, Whitman said the company is adopting Salesforce and HR system Workday. The company also plans to cut product lines. It said it makes 2,100 different laser printers alone; it wants to reduce that by half. 'In every business we're going to benefit from focusing on a smaller number of offerings that we can invest in and really make matter,' said Whitman."

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  1. zuh? by bananaquackmoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    0_o 2100 laser printers? WHY?

    1. Re:zuh? by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't get it either. A dozen models for each market segment should provide variety enough, methinks. So
      -a dozen models for the SOHO market
      -a dozen for the bigger ones that may serve as department printers (one per corridor and shared by everyone
      -a dozen for oversize formats, so the CAD guys can print out big schematics
      -a dozen really fast models for high volume printing...
      . ...now I'm at about 50 models and running out of ideas. Maybe I'm a bit of an ignoramus, but I doubt I've just missed 95% of the market :-o

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    2. Re:zuh? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Their firmware and driver teams need adequate room in which to explore the wide variety of vexing bugs that you can get away with shipping...

    3. Re:zuh? by P-niiice · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A lot of times, sellers willl request a custom model of a product - like a super-cheap model to draw people into a sale for example. These models usually vary slightly from an existing model (maybe it prints slightly slower or has a different paper tray). apparently HP has let these get out of hand.

    4. Re:zuh? by vlm · · Score: 4, Interesting

      10 middlemen retailers all with a policy "we will pricematch any competitors price for the identical model". Well, if walmart is the only retailer on the planet who sells model 13513.2362 then I guess they'll never have to pricematch, will they?

      Also add some B+W only models, some multifunction models...

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    5. Re:zuh? by SuperMooCow · · Score: 4, Funny

      PC LOAD LETTER? What the fuck does that mean?

    6. Re:zuh? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      Yes. And they still haven't learned that it just pisses customers off.

    7. Re:zuh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hell yes they are.

      I went shopping for a flat-panel TV a few years ago. I had my eye on the Samsung 7 series, 52-inch. They have a "fancy" power indicator light that Samsung was proud of for some idiotic reason. It "looks classy" to marketing shills, apparently. I really gave a fuck. (Your sarcasm detector should have just exploded.)

      So I shopped around online and at local retailers. MSRP on an LN52A7000 (close enough) was $3400. All the local shops wanted $3100, but Best Buy carried the LN52A7100, with the red power light, Circuit City (during their final days) carried the LN52A7120 with the blue power light, and everyone else seemed to have their own variant with different colored power lights.

      I bought the base model with the white power light from Newegg for $1800. That's what they get for trying to screw over an internet-connected buyer. I figure it was a small, silent middle finger to all of those dipshits. The reason Circuit City is gone and Best Buy is soon to follow is because of that shit, and I, the customer will not tolerate it. FOADIAF, B & M.

    8. Re:zuh? by Sir_Sri · · Score: 2

      It's possible what she means is that each SKU is actually a different product internally. Like each regional HP 'buys' a particular internal HP printer and that each region can customize the base model designed at the main design centre. Especially if they aren't actually modifying much of anything this becomes a complete waste of money.

      It's also possible HP is losing money like crazy because they really do have 2100 different models of laser printer which are largely overlapping products competing with themselves and that's just wasting money. Because big companies really can be that stupid.

    9. Re:zuh? by jimicus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let us take a fictional model as an example. We'll call it the laser jet 200.

      We have:
      Laser jet 200: plain printer.
      Laser jet 200n: exactly the same as the 200 but with inbuilt networking. Only it's sold as a separate model, which means you need to find space in the warehouse for two almost identical pritnters.
      Laser jet 200dn: exactly the same as the 200n but comes with the optional duplex unit pre-fitted. Three almost identical printers in the warehouse.
      Laser jet 200dtn: as dn but with the optional extra paper tray in the box. Four almos identical printers in the warehouse. By now, inventory's a pig. What if you suddenly find nobody wants the dtn model but the dn model sells like hot cakes? You have a warehouse full of printers that nobody wants and the aggravating thing is each printer is 5 minutes work away from being turned into one everybody wants.
      Laser jet 200 MFP: printer is identical to the 200 but a scanner is bolted on top to make it a multi function unit.
      Laser jet 200 MFP(f): Now they've fitted a modem to give it fax capabilities.
      Laser jet 200 MFP(f) Special Edition: A 200 dtn with scanner unit and modem fitted at the factory.

      Repeat for a printer aimed at small workgroups, larger workgroups and big departments. Repeat again for colour printers aimed at groups of varying size.

    10. Re:zuh? by marcosdumay · · Score: 2

      Whatever they inventory problems are, if I get to their site to choose a model, and there are 2000 models to choose from, I'm going to their competition. If I choose a model, but can't buy it because of geographical restrictions, and this repeats a few times, I'm going to the competition. If I see a model at a store, but I can't find that model anywhere else to compare, I won't trust it, and I'm going to the competition. If I can't find a review about the model I've choosen... Well, you got the idea.

      WTF were they thinking?

    11. Re:zuh? by jimicus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      WTF were they thinking?

      This sort of mess doesn't happen as a result of careful planning. It happens as a result of shortsighted knee-jerk management decisions. Those management decisions probably work out OK in a strong economy, particularly if you are able to predict how many of each model you'll sell.

      The problem arises when you face a downturn. You've got an entire chain from building through to distribution devised around this idea of shipping 2,000 different printers (with, let's say 50 basic printers and 40 variants on each one). Which means your driver team is put together based on that assumption, your factories are tooled up based on that assumption, your warehouse processes are based around that assumption and your management team is built around that assumption.

      It'd make far more sense to have maybe 10 or 15 basic printers and a whole lot of optional extras - which is precisely what everyone else in the industry does. But in order to get your processes down to that level, you need to drastically cut staff, warehouse space, re-engineer your factories (or pay your contract manufacturers to do so) - and in so doing, an awful lot of middle managers who have been merrily building up their own little empire will push back. They won't do so obviously - well, some might but they can be dealt with very easily - they'll do so insidiously. Terrified for their own job, they'll do everything in their power to avoid making any change that might ultimately mean their team (and hence their empire) is no longer needed.

      You really need someone at the top who has the strength to push through this sort of mess and sort it all out - you can't trust the entire business to work with you to achieve it because in so many people's case, it goes against their best interests. Even then it's famously difficult to get right - there is a damn good reason why people who've succeeded in turning around massive companies are greatly respected, and it's nothing to do with their enormous salary.

  2. Better for her to preside over downfall of HP... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...than the entire state of California.

  3. HP doesn't need a long-term vision by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They need a short term one, specifically one that doesn't involve switching CEOs every year.

    If you don't have stability at the top, you have zero ability to execute a long term goal.

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    1. Re:HP doesn't need a long-term vision by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      They need to stop depending on short term visions, and expectations of them.

      Although it sounds like eliminating 90% of their printer models would be an excellent place to start, and it shouldn't take four years to do that.

  4. Oh, that's encouraging... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wasn't their bold plan for not sucking supposed to be offering 'enterprise' IT consulting? And now they admit that their own organization couldn't change its own asses toner cartridge with both hands and a map?

    1. Re:Oh, that's encouraging... by Sez+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My thoughts exactly. The headline should have read "IT Company Has Bad IT; But Don't Worry, CEO Says It Will All Be Fine In A Few Years"

    2. Re:Oh, that's encouraging... by squidflakes · · Score: 2

      Whitman's claim is so much bullshit. Its her standard claim for any situation and she's throwing around Salesforce and Workday as if they will actually solve issues. What she really means is that she's outsourcing a bunch of internal support people in addition to the external support.

      Workday is mostly a SaaS product, as is Salesforce.

      So, expect more HP layoffs, and not much more.

  5. Re:Better for her to preside over downfall of HP.. by geoffrobinson · · Score: 2

    for her at least. HP has better prospects than California.

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  6. Computers are Dead by fm6 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Pretty much everybody who needs a PC already has one, and will go as long as 10 years between replacements. Servers are still big business, but nowadays data centers want to buy cheap white boxes, since any reliability issues are handled by cloud software. So name brand computers are dead.

    When I worked for Sun's hardware division, I believed that the company could turn itself around by firing all the sales idiots who thought x86 systems were a passing fad. (Which earned my emity because I worked on some fancy x86 systems that were easily the best on the market.) Now that I've been out working on cloud systems for 3 years, it's become obvious that the brand of computer an app is running on matters as little as the specific processor. Commodification of everything is the new normal.

    1. Re:Computers are Dead by lightknight · · Score: 2

      Nonsense, the variant of processor can matter, but software must be written to take advantage of it, and what more, to provide a true advantage. Compiling something with the Intel compiler, where x87 code is used for AMD processors, isn't a true advantage of Intel processors -> those AMD processors support those SSE instructions, and a quick recompile / change of the flags destroys your temporary advantage.

      What makes many other types of processor quick ass over the x86 variants? Typically fun things like double-digits of registers or special instructions that can do in one cycle what x86 do in ten. But you can't rest on your laurels. You can't ship a new chip with a slight speed boost, while others are trouncing your platform, and cross your fingers that companies are too heavily invested in Sparc to transition to a different chip. Your sales guys cut better deals, with happier customers, when the stuff they're selling isn't crap. Cut back on R&D or tech too much, and you turn into another oem who is competing on price alone (a dangerous place to be). When people look to your company, they need to know that the tech is as safe as houses, the deal they're getting isn't bullsh*t, and that the support contracts won't be outsourced to someone who hasn't personally built one of the servers they're supporting.

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    2. Re:Computers are Dead by fm6 · · Score: 2

      I neglected to read TFA. If I had done so, I would have noticed something that made my point for me: Whitman is tossing internal applications and replacing them with cloud applications. Which certainloy run on white box systems. So why should I buy an HP brand server if HP itself doesn't use them?

    3. Re:Computers are Dead by tom229 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have no idea how this has been voted up. The statements in this post are pure fantasy. First off, on what planet to people keep their PCs for 10 years? It's more like 3... at the most; for both home and business. And on the business side you're much better off sticking with a vendor like HP both for their warranties and the ease of deploying their OEM images over the network.

      Secondly, white boxes are all fine and dandy for large data centers but you're leaving out a pretty big section of the pie there. "The cloud" isn't the blanket solution for everything yet. Virtually all small and medium sized offices run internal windows domains, most still find reasons to need exchange, have internal MDM software, and alot of industries still require older server/client software. Im also seeing more of a desire to have high availability systems which is creating demand for SAN storage.

      Computers aren't dead, "the cloud" (aka. web services) is nothing new, and tablets don't replace anything.

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    4. Re:Computers are Dead by slew · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Nonsense, the variant of processor can matter, but software must be written to take advantage of it...

      The amount of software that is written to take specific advantage of a processor architecture is going down in this era of the cloud. Unless the thing you are doing is so trivial that it doesn't matter, or vast that you can fill your own datacenter with it 24-7, odds are today your software will (eventually) want to run on a cloud platform (e.g, like Amazon AWS/EC2). In a cloud environment, you don't own the computer, you rent a virtual computer. The cheapest rentals will likely be the most commoditized platforms. Specialized software which need specific variants of processors is not only is less cost effective to develop, but also to execute.

      FWIW, As for the other arguments, x86 is mostly dead in the cloud world. Everyone is x86-64-AVX That means in addition to the 16 standard integer registers there are 16 256-bit SIMD registers in the IAS which are quite competitive with Sparc (0+7g+8i+8o register window). Besides, today processors have many more physical registers and do top-of-stack caching so ISA registers don'tt mean as much as it used to mean (e.g, the sandy bridge i7 architecture has 160 integer registers available for renaming).

      Also, all those arguments about magic instructions are mostly not relavent anymore. Everyone pretty much has the similar stuff. For example, the latest rabbit out of the Sparc bag have been a dedicated security co-processor (given that many of their servers are web-host front-ends, maybe a co-processor that does AES/DES/RSA is a reasonable thing), although not clear that it's net any better than say an i7 with x86-AES-NI acceleration instructions + a highly optmized AVX RSA implementation unless all that's all your server is doing is RSA (usually there's some other code running).

    5. Re:Computers are Dead by fm6 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Maybe I got voted up because people can see for themselves that all this is happening. Maybe the people you know buy new computers every few years and maintain their own in-office networks — but that's not the trend, not by a long shot. There's resistance to moving away from these things, but the fact remains that they cost a shitload to maintain. And what do businesses worry about these days? Cost. Then they worry some more about cost. And then if they have some spare time they worry about cost.

      When you say that the cloud is nothing new, you're assuming that "cloud" is just marketspeak for "servers". Wrong. It's about SaaS and other technologies that make access to applications a kind of commodity. Saying "this is nothing new" is like somebody in 1981 saying "PCs are nothing new, we've had computers for more than 30 years." What's new here is not the basic technology, but the economics and infrastructure that makes that technology more available.

      Which is why HP (as mentioned in the article) is trying to save money by shifting to cloud-based CRM and HR instead of continuing to run their own servers. Ironic, really.

      BTW, you mention the need to run an Exchange server? Every office I ever worked in that had its own Exchange server had major problems because the damn thing is hard to administer. If I had been there as an IT guy, I would have insisted that they go to an Exchange provider and let them worry about that shit. Cloud, cloud, cloud.

    6. Re:Computers are Dead by tom229 · · Score: 2

      "Cloud" is just market speak for hosted service. Hosting services can make a lot of sense in various situations, but not in all. And, IMHO, if you can afford it, it's always better for a company to take ownership. Should a company spend hundreds of thousands of dollars developing its own robust CRM? Probably not, but that doesn't mean computers are dead, or there's significantly less need for branded server hardware. There's many needs for software outside of applications like customer management. Active directory, group policy, mail, intranets, file sharing, print services; and doing all of this securely.

      I feel, primarily, that some people are getting way too carried away with all this cloud shit. There's a lot of 'what if' situations with the cloud that are completely ignored to favour short term savings.
      For example, what if the company hosting my data: loses it, sells it, goes out of business, catches on fire, gives it over to the government (patriot act), or has its security compromised? What if they don't maintain their network and it gets slow, or there's several outages? What if they raise their prices suddenly or they make it difficult for me to get my data out? Etc, etc, etc.

      I feel people that are selling 'the cloud' as some magic trend that is going to be the death of the way IT is traditionally done are simply getting ahead of themselves. Hosted services are merely a supplement for internal IT systems, where it makes sense; just as they always have been.

      As for insisting on hosted exchange, there's many many reasons why you wouldnt want to do this in any particular case. If your company provides cell phones and wants to enforce enhanced security policies with MDM software, you want to tie mail accounts with AD, you run sharepoint, you cant have mail accessible on non company owned machines, or you just want to control your own data.

      There's also situations where hosted exchange, or maybe google apps, does makes sense especially when if you do want to run it yourself... ya... you do need a sysadmin that knows how to administer it.

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    7. Re:Computers are Dead by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      Maybe I got voted up because people can see for themselves that all this is happening.

      More likely you got modded up for the pointless anecdote about how you hates salesdroids, were working on (what you thought was) the "hottest" machine, and how you knew more than/stuck it "the man". Because the rest of your post is, as the grandparent says, pure fantasy.
       

      And what do businesses worry about these days? Cost. Then they worry some more about cost. And then if they have some spare time they worry about cost.

      A business that worries about nothing but cost is a business that either already dead (but doesn't know it yet), or is so far gone they might as well be. Cost is only one part of the business equation.
       

      When you say that the cloud is nothing new, you're assuming that "cloud" is just marketspeak for "servers". Wrong. It's about SaaS and other technologies that make access to applications a kind of commodity.

      And what is SaaS? It's pulling software/data from a remote server. It's not a technology. And it's not anything new.
       
      Your three years of working on cloud systems has given you tunnel vision.

  7. Re:Still too many by Sez+Zero · · Score: 2

    They should just have 3, A laser, a color laser and an inkjet.

    they make their dough on toner and ink anyhoo!

    They've got 2100 laser printers. Imagine how many models including the ink jets!

  8. Saleforce? Hah by realmolo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When a company starts thinking that Salesforce (or any CRM, or any single piece of software) is going to save them, that means they are DOOMED.

    The fact that HP doesn't know this says a lot about how clueless they really are about IT, software, *and* business needs in general.

  9. 2,100 different laser printers by NikeHerc · · Score: 5, Funny

    640 printers is enough for anybody.

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  10. Re:Better for her to preside over downfall of HP.. by vlm · · Score: 2

    "California CEO Meg Whitman told financial analysts today that it will take until 2016 to turn the state around. Surprisingly, Whitman put some of the blame for the state's woes on its IT systems, which she said have hurt its internal operations. To fix its IT problems, Whitman said the state offices are adopting Salesforce and HR system Workday. The state also plans to cut benefits and entitlements. It said it has 2,100 different forms alone; it wants to reduce that by half. 'In every state we're going to benefit from focusing on a smaller number of entitlements that we can invest in and really make matter,' said Whitman."

    I donno if its going to be all that different.

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  11. HP in permanent decline by twasserman · · Score: 5, Insightful
    For the past 10 years or so, going back to Her Worship (Fiorina), HP has been cutting staff. Total layoffs through Hurd, Apotheker, and Meg are now up to 100K. HP has decimated its R&D capabilities, to the extent that they are essentially incapable of creating innovative products, which partly explains their 2100 printers. Too many of the people who are left are lifers who know how to keep their jobs. Anyone who is capable of finding a job elsewhere has done so.

    If you are looking for a job, HP is a company without an interesting mobile strategy and a cloud strategy focused predominantly on IT services - not very attractive for entrepreneurial types, who have many other excellent opportunities.

    Finally, the 100K HP departees are not likely to purchase HP products or to recommend them in their new settings. That's a very large pool of people who are going to advocate for competing products.

    So the turnaround projected for 2016 is unlikely to happen, but it's a pretty fair bet than Meg Whitman won't be around HP when that day arrives.

    1. Re:HP in permanent decline by TBB303 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      An ex HP contractor here. I had a good 3.5 years at HP, and even though I got a lot of crap here on Slashdot last time I commented on HP related news regarding how ugly the way they terminated my contract in the end was, I haven't been suggesting everybody I know to avoid HP products like plague; x86 ProLiants are still pretty good hardware, I've always preferred HP displays both at work and at home, and as long as you avoid their consumer models, you'll get yourself a pretty good laptop from them. Those products I can definitely recommend still. However, the company was working against itself already during the time I spent there. Managers were mainly concerned in staying out of the way as long as their performance indicators seemed fine, and while us higher level Unix support folks were seemingly given free hands in solving the customers' problems, that freedom was an illusion, as I learned a couple of years after leaving and hearing all the stuff said about my working methods (example: using SSH tunneling via an SSH proxy dedicated for this purpose by the company) by people incompetent to make such judgements. And that's where I see HP's biggest problem - during the years of growth, so much incompetence has found its way in in that the company has been forced to lay off A LOT of people. Unfortunately for HP, the same incompetence has prevented the company from telling the difference between competent and incompetent workforce. Layoffs are a simple numbers game for them. I feel pride for the way I improved the support process during my stay and how I was part of a highly skilled team, each member with his own strengths that made the team greater than the sum of its parts; I still remember my teammates with warmth. But HP had already grown too big to be efficient by the time I worked there, and this resulted in an organisation that doesn't know where it should and wants to go; and excluding Whitman (of whom I have no experience), the recent CEO's and high level politics definitely haven't made me optimistic about the future of HP.

  12. Just two models? by DragonWriter · · Score: 2

    I would only make two models of printers: laser black and white and laser color.

    So, are you going to just make compact desktop models, just high-end high-volume model, or just pick one-point in between? Are you just just going to make directly-connected models, or wired network models, or wifi models?

    Or, along with color vs. black and white, are there multiple axes of variation you need to cover that are going to require more than one model of printer in each the "black and white" and "color" categories?

  13. Doomed by squidflakes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its been said, but I'll reiterate.

    Salesforce is not an IT tool, it is a Customer Management tool. The whole point of using Salesforce is to make your sales and customer service people more efficient so you can do more with what you have or do the same with fewer people.

    Workday is the same thing, only it replaces any internal HR databases with its own SaaS solution in order to allow your HR people to manage more people, or in order to manage the same number of people with fewer HR people.

    At the end of the day, both of these projects are about outsourcing internal functions, possibly to save money, possibly because Dave Duffield and Marc Benioff the CEOs of Workday and Salesforce respectively were big contributors to Meg's failed gubernatorial campaign.

    I'm cynical, especially when it comes to the continued flushing of HP down the toilet.

  14. Having just gone through a Salesforce effort... by LaRoach · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...all I can say is sell your HP stock! They're doomed.

    1. Re:Having just gone through a Salesforce effort... by js33 · · Score: 2

      ...all I can say is sell your HP stock! They're doomed.

      ... for what it's worth anymore. I paid $29.59 a share and today it closed at $14.91 :-(

      They were once a company I admired for their quality printers and calculators, but ever since that ill-fated acquisition of Compaq, it's just been downhill. What a misdirected, aimless company. Make something half-way decent and reliable like you used to, not 2100 different models of laser printers, and all those crappy laptops and desktop computers that never were your core competency to begin with.

      Not going to turn the company around until 2016! Ha, ha, ha! That's several more CEOs into the future, if the company lasts that long.

  15. Re:About time by mattb47 · · Score: 2

    Amen!!!

    Brother, Samsung, Canon, Epson, etc. drivers usually install in a quarter (sometimes a tenth!) of the time. And usually take up a quarter to a tenth of the drive space.

    Especially on the all-in-one models.

    And functionality just isn't that different or better with the HP models. Just immensely more annoying to install.

    HP's printer software is a disaster.

  16. The all new HP Mac by MrEricSir · · Score: 2

    Why would HP need to buy Apple products? HP already makes their own MacBook Pro (which is appropriately named "Envy") as well as their own iMac. They don't need to visit the Apple Store when they can make their own.

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  17. Re:fewer = better? by guttentag · · Score: 3, Informative

    One of the first things Steve Jobs did upon his return to Apple in the 90s was kill off all the random, overlapping, redundant, confusing product lines... Which each cost money to develop, produce, support and market. He drew a cross on the whiteboard and wrote "pro laptop" in one corner, "consumer laptop" in another, pro desktop and consumer desktop in the others. And that was their strategy. The point was to FOCUS a company that had lost its way, and HP certainly looks like a company that has lost its way.

  18. or not shipping... Re:zuh? by Fubari · · Score: 2

    Their firmware and driver teams need adequate room in which to explore the wide variety of vexing bugs that you can get away with shipping...

    Or drivers they're not shipping; I am the unhappy owner an orphaned HP color laser printer (CLJ 1500). While Brother figured out how to support 64 bit Vista & Win 7, HP decided to "focus on things that matter." It is going to be a while before I look at buying HP hardware again. (Yeah, yeah, I'm sure HP is all bummed out about that.) But who knows, maybe they'll impress me with their visionary innovation some day.

  19. HP should... by unixisc · · Score: 2

    Add another variable for them localizing their printers around the world, due to varying environmental conditions. Like printers in humid, tropical countries would be very different from the ones in the US, which is why you don't see the same models in both places. It's not the same as touchpads.

    However, I think they should spin off their non-PC computer business into a pure maintenance company, that would deal w/ customers w/ their legacy products, like ones from Compaq, Tandem, DEC and HP's own PA-RISC and Itanic lines. Let this company develop successors to all these lines of products - the PA-RISC, the Alpha, continue on Itanium III, MIPS and make successors to the old product lines like Himalayas, Alphaservers, HP-9000s, Integrity servers & so on. Delight their customers (who are still w/ them) and live off maintenance contracts. And maybe even build a business around FBSD and OBSD.

    As for HP itself, be just a PC & peripheral company like Dell. Since they are going w/ Windows Phones & Tablets, base them on Clover Trail or Hondo (same advice goes for Microsoft's own rumored phone) - don't go w/ Android: that market is already lost to Samsung, Sony, Google/Mot and HTC.

  20. Education in permanent decline? by dbIII · · Score: 2

    There are sentences in Moby Dick longer than the paragraph above.