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Ask Slashdot: What Equipment and Furniture For an Electronics Hardware Lab?

bartoku writes "Slashdot, what would you put in your dream electronics hardware lab? I am putting one together, and I'm looking for suggestions on everything from equipment to furniture. My aim is for a professional-grade setup, not just a hobby lab. The goal is to be able to test and debug modern electronic device prototypes. I would love to see money-is-no-objective suggestions alongside more economically practical solutions. Links or contacts for good distributors to acquire the equipment and furniture are also welcome. I'm also interested in commentary on renting versus buying new or used higher-end equipment to be economical and keep up with equipment that will become obsolete quickly."

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  1. There's a great Australian with the answer by RaySnake · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out David Jones' EEVblog, particularly episode 168. http://www.eevblog.com/

    1. Re:There's a great Australian with the answer by Dogbertius · · Score: 3, Insightful
      This is how I have mine set up. It's pretty sweet, especially if you like doing board and circuit design from scratch:
      • Heavy bench with vice press
      • Large desk-mounted magnifying glass with built-in lighting (for assembling small parts)
      • Soldering bench area with a multi-arm alligator clip apparatus
      • Fume hood
      • Acid etching tank
      • Drill press (I use a set that converts a Dremel tool into a press, fun fun)
      • Dremel tool (even if you have a "proper" drill press, the cutting and sanding attachments are helpful; don't forget various sizes of collets or just get a chuck)
      • Mini beer fridge
      • Emergency sink
      • Concrete floor (the garage/basement area is ideal so you can install a drain in the floor)
      • Tool set (wire strippers, tweezers, cutters)

      This setup lets me basically mass produce home-made circuit boards in a safe and comfortable setting. I also have a really old TV (think it's from the 80's) which I keep on life support and have a TON of adapters connected to it so that it gets cable. Just kind of like that retro radioactive glare :)

  2. Depends what you're working on... by wisewellies · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are a number of pieces of equipment which should be in any lab setup - e.g. oscilloscope, voltmeter/ammeter, decent bench power supply, soldering iron and proper illumination. What you need after that will depend much more on the kind of electronics that you want to work on - digital, analogue, RF etc. Each needs a different set of equipment. Personally, I work in the digital domain, and find a fast logic analyser invaluable for diagnosing difficult problems. I would also include a dedicated bench computer (or two), and large, deep benches with overhead shelves. You can't have too much space. Of course the most important piece of equipment is your brain - no piece of equipment is going to replace your ability to think through a problem.

    1. Re:Depends what you're working on... by xQx · · Score: 5, Funny

      You also will need the following:

      1. A van der graaf generator
      2. A very powerful degaussing Coil
      3. A glass still

      1. Because if you're spending heaps of time in an electronics lab, you're sometimes going to have visitors and it never hurts to show them something theatrical.
      2. Because you never know when you need to destroy information.
      3. Because if you're testing and doing R&D on electronics stuff for any length of time, you will know it doesn't always work the way it should, and for those instances a home-made stiff drink never goes astray.

    2. Re:Depends what you're working on... by ebbe11 · · Score: 3, Informative
      To this have added:
      • AC Outlets with real earth ground
      • A grounded ESD conductive mat
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      My opinion? See above.
    3. Re:Depends what you're working on... by vlm · · Score: 3, Informative

      A opposed to fake earth grounded mains?

      Yes exactly. A "3-hole outlet" will work perfectly well at powering things if you don't hook up the ground. Its ungrounded, but you won't find out until something shorts to a chassis and you get electrocuted.

      Another prime failure mode for older houses is relying on conduit for ground path and having j6p previous loanowner replace or remove a chunk of the conduit leading. No more ground anymore.

      One funny failure mode of conduit grounds is not being able to source/sink 15 amps to blow the circuit breaker. Been there seen that. So hot wire shorts to chassis, resistance of the ground path is so immense from poor/corroded connections that it only drops 10 amps or so, until the fire starts or someone gets electrocuted anyway.

      Finally IF you're doing analog or analog-ish stuff and you think grounding will cut down on noise, a "bad ground" might act as an antenna and make it even worse.

      You can buy a little plug in doohickey from home depot or whatever that costs like $5 full of neon bulbs that will tell you if an outlet has power, if the outlet has hot-neutral reversed, and if theres a ground. You could build one in about 10 minutes using a little project box and a fat stack of 120 volt lamp/indicators/neons/whatever. The point being that you better not have 120VAC between neutral and ground, etc.

      I would estimate from experience that given "normal lifestyle" with J6P fooling around with his own house wiring that about 5% of outlets will get mis-wired per decade, unless J6P had an electrician buddy or was smart enough to drop $5 on the little outlet tester lamp thingy.

      So now that I've explained how having a 3-prong outlet doesn't mean you have a ground at all, we can move on to explaining exactly how, why, and when you need an isolation transformer on your test bench. The answer is short, if you can't explain, in detail, exactly whats going on WRT ground loops or floating gear to do HV work, you are not supposed to be using that stuff (TLDR is sometimes "grounded" test equipment needs to be "ungrounded", although its somewhat risky sometimes its the only way).

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    4. Re:Depends what you're working on... by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 3, Informative

      A real ground is nice, but if you are working with an ESD strap, please make sure to have all the bench outlets on GFCI!!

      Don't do anything really really stupid like driving a ground rod just for your lab and tying your ground pin to that; make sure it is bonded to the main ground.

    5. Re:Depends what you're working on... by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 2

      One funny failure mode of conduit grounds is not being able to source/sink 15 amps to blow the circuit breaker. Been there seen that. So hot wire shorts to chassis, resistance of the ground path is so immense from poor/corroded connections that it only drops 10 amps or so, until the fire starts or someone gets electrocuted anyway.

      That's why ground fault circuit interrupter should always be required. If the difference in current between the ingoing wire and the outgoing wire is to big (30 mA is the default for a house in the Netherlands) it shuts the power off. They are not cheap, but cheaper than a funeral.

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    6. Re:Depends what you're working on... by Lost+Penguin · · Score: 4, Funny

      The lift that opens the roof, for the body to be charged by the lightning....

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    7. Re:Depends what you're working on... by mnemotronic · · Score: 2

      Aye. And a goot Scotish oxcent.

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  3. Good luck by solidraven · · Score: 2

    Well, obviously you might want to avoid metal. You can get these great plates for lab table surfaces made from some sort of ceramic. It's heat resistant and pretty tough, which is really necessary if a SMPS decides to hit the self destruct button. For soldering, just get a wooden board to protect the surface from direct impact with a soldering iron.
    Miniature drawer cabinets are important and actually rather expensive, especially those that can be stacked.
    Good soldering irons (more than one!) are a must obviously. Get both an analog and digital scope with at least 2 channels each. More is better. Personally I like putting a computer near my electronics workbench to view schematics, considered investing in a large TV for that but I'm a bit short on cash for that.
    You want several supplies, current limited and not. Isolation transformers, a good variac, signal/function generators.
    Good to have as well are an impedance meter/Q meter, network analyser, spectrum analyser and logic analyser. Especially the latter is worth considering, you can get pretty cheap versions these days that you hook up to a computer. For the other devices I advice stand alone versions cause it's really a lot easier while measuring if you can play with the knobs to home in on what you actually need. If you have more than enough money also get one of those microcontroller programmers with several sockets, that thing has saved my life more often than not.
    Anyway, good luck!

  4. Knife switches, Nixie tubes, Jacob's ladders by fotoguzzi · · Score: 2

    Then lightly sprinkle with integrated circuits.

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  5. What's it for? by backwardMechanic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's all nice and dandy that you want a bunch of high-end professional equipment, but what do you actually want to do with your lab? Analogue? Digital? RF? Do you want some mechanical capabilities (drilling boxes, etching/machining PCBs, CNC, 3D printing, etc)? Do you need a microscope for really small stuff?
    Rather than getting all excited about the shiny new toys, start with what you want to do. Then figure out what you need/want to help you do this. That's a question we can help with.

    1. Re:What's it for? by Dahamma · · Score: 3, Informative

      Exactly. This question seems just like a poseur question "what tools do I need to build an F1 car in my garage" or "what tools do I need to build lots of great furniture".

      As for "furniture" - get a decent bench and some shelves. What do you want, padded 60's lounge chairs to feel like a mad scientist? And then once you have said shelves and bench, once you actually find the need to DO something and don't have the tool to do it: then buy it. Stocking a home lab full of shit you'll never use is complete rich nerd masturbation exercise.

    2. Re:What's it for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It doesnt matter what its for... Well it does, but a high bench and stools rather than desks and chairs will be highly beneficial. It is far more comfortable to work for long periods when you don't have to bend down all day. I always preferred a single flat island surface (no joins) in the middle of the lab with plenty of power. Bigger is better.

      Plenty of racking or shelving for storing equipment and drawers or similar for smaller things.

      Oh, and a shitload of light. When you think you have enough light, double it. You can always remove half the globes/tubes, but if you don't have enluh fixtures you will be constantly working in your own shadow and that sucks.

      And every lab needs a machine that goes ping. Why it goes ping is, of course, dependent on the use of your lab.

    3. Re:What's it for? by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 4, Informative

      I cannot stress lighting enough.

      Almost everyone gets it wrong, and it's the most annoying to fix after the fact. You want whatever room you're in bright - very bright, and illuminated uniformly. If you're putting in shelves or anything that occludes light, plan to have lights attached to it. You'll find yourself *much* happier later.

    4. Re:What's it for? by vlm · · Score: 2

      very bright, and illuminated uniformly

      Absolute minimum of two "desk lamps on long arms". In the 80s I had a rather expensive one with a florescent ring element wrapped around a 4 or so inch magnifying glass, kind of handy when you're doing SMD work by hand. Boy was that thing heavy and RF noisy but it was perfect for soldering. Of course back then I don't think we had 0402 components. Anyway the point is if you can see a shadow, you're doin it wrong.

      So you're troubleshooting the 3000 volt 2 amp power supply for an old tube amplifier while its powered up, and suddenly the lights go out while the supply is live. Not cool at all. Ideally you have lighting of some sort in the room on two separate power ckts. Extension cords are not safe, but they're a lot safer than trapped in the dark with a live power supply.

      Finally everyone leaves their soldering iron plugged in and running, even the christmas tree digital ones, until they set up some kind of master power switch arrangement. You've got three power strips on my desk side (3 circuits BTW), desk lighting, test equipment, and device under test and all three strips have a $2 store bought nightlight plugged in. So if a nightlight is on, the desk is powered up. Make sure you can see the nightlights, obviously, when leaving the room and never leave the room without glancing at the nightlights as a habit.

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  6. Start from the ground up by fragMasterFlash · · Score: 4, Informative

    Conductive flooring paired with electrostatic discharge heelstraps (or better yet static dissipative shoes) will go a long way toward mitigating ESD risks in your lab. While wrist straps are effective they are inconvenient and therefore more likely not to be used consistently. Most lab furniture is conductive, but you often pay a bit extra for chairs with conductive castors. The need for lab coats depends on the apparel your lab staff typically wear (wool and synthetics should be covered with a dissipative lab coat, cottons are not typically an ESD risk).

  7. erm... by crutchy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    money-is-no-objective suggestions

    - BlueGene/Q supercomputer
    - video wall
    - space shuttle (just in case you need some low-grav testing done)

    economically practical solutions

    - why the hell are you seeking advice from slashdot as to what to put in an "electronics hardware lab"? if you are serious about building a "professional-grade setup", a fair assumption would be that you are a professional electronics engineer and would have no difficulty rattling off the necessary equipment (such as oscilloscopes, soldering irons, power supplies, plenty of storage, etc).
    if you're merely after decorating ideas, i would suggest things that don't attract a lot of static electricity (so shag pile is out)

  8. Faraday cage. by Shag · · Score: 2

    Got to have one of those. To keep the neighbors from spying on your RF emissions... or whatever.

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  9. Re:Flashing lights by moderators_are_w*nke · · Score: 2

    Indeed relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten

    (http://www.jargon.net/jargonfile/b/blinkenlights.html)

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  10. If you dont know what you want by citizenr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    then you dont need it.

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    1. Re:If you dont know what you want by vlm · · Score: 2

      Assuming you know it exists.

      Did ya know, when you're reworking an old board and solder isn't sticking, rather than suffering or lifting the traces off the board, you can buy a little $3 pen flux applicator and suddenly its easy?

      Did ya know, when washing flux off a completed board, the chemists figured out "plastic wash bottle technology" decades ago? You don't have to dump denatured alcohol on a rag, or dump most of it down the drain, or have an open bottle of solvent on your desk anymore.

      Instead of icky old premade alligator clip jumpers, you can buy those fancy micro sized clamping test probe tips in bulk, and a roll of silicone superflex wire, and make your own test jumpers that are superior to crappy premade alligator clip jumpers for less money? Or at least you used to be able to do this (they last forever, more or less)

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      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
  11. Shrink tubes! by LifeIs0x2A · · Score: 2

    Lots of them. In all sizes!

    No, but it pretty much depends on what your are going to be working on. I would have this pretty basic list of things:
    1. Nice four-channel color Textronics oscilloscope
    2. SMD soldering station (Maker: Gote)
    3. Fluke Multimeter
    4. Desoldering equipment
    5. Various probes
    6. Various pliers
    7. Some holder for your PCBs
    8. Magnifying glass (with light)
    9. Wires in various diameters and colors + super thin copper wire
    10. Various connectors and the equipnent to crimp them

    The rest I would get but while you are working. You will figure out what else you going to need soon enough.

    Furniture:
    1. Large (!) table in the middle of the room
    2. Cubboards with shelves
    3. Boxes and subboxes to put on these shelves with parts etc.

    Don't put too much furniture in. Space to move is important.

    If you want to do more complex stuff it might be good to get a logic analyser. But you also need to have someone who knows how to use it.

  12. Sounds like homework assignment by robi5 · · Score: 2

    It's almost as if someone asked what equipment he needs for performing bypass surgery. First requirement would be a bookshelf (to be filled with books for one's study), and second is a cabinet for keeping degrees, diplomas and continuing education. I'd love to know what motivated the question to begin with, it sounds almost eerie, esp. the professional part. Maybe a PHB who wants to monitor his engineers' purchase requests or a lottery winner with his dreams.

    1. Re:Sounds like homework assignment by bartoku · · Score: 2

      Interesting point. I did not think people would be interested in my life story so I kept my question as brief and to the point as possible. I am an Electrical Engineer who has been doing software development for a few years. The company I work for is looking to prototype some hardware for a project. I have put together my shopping list, but I am sure I am forgetting or missing something, especially in the furniture area. I have never really had to buy such equipment since it was always in place at school or the labs I worked in. So if I was a surgeon, I did not pay much attention to the brand of the hospital bed my patients were lying on and would be interested in what other surgeons have found they like now that I need to procure my own.

  13. I built mine as follows: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Oscilloscope.
    $800 OWON DS8102 2 channels with VERY deep sample memory
    $3600 Agilent DSO-X-3014A 4 channels 80 mHz can be upgraded to 200 MHZ with logic analyzer

    multimeter
    $113 Fluke 113
    $1350 Agilent 34410A

    Signal generator / arbitrary waveform generator
    $380 Rigol DG1022 2 arbitrary channels per generator I got 2
    Agilent Technologies 33250A- I didn't buy this but its the high end equivalent.

    Power supply
    $200 GPS3030D I have 2

    Soldering iron
    $50 Weller WLC100
    $610 MetCal MX-500S-11 I don't own this. Soldering is the weakest item for me at present.

    For a table I went big and cheap.
    4 Saw horses from loses
    1 4 foot by 8 foot by 1 inch piece of plywood
    4 4 foot by 2 foot conductive mats from 3m 98-0798-1202-4 $75 each

    If you are going all out having floor mats is a good idea too.

    Good luck

  14. The basics by wrmrxxx · · Score: 2

    Without knowing much about your application, I can only reasonably make suggestions about the basics.

    1) Bench space, with good lighting and plenty of power points.
    2) Flooring that won't build up static.
    3) Good ventilation, because soldering fumes are not good for you.
    4) A sink. You will probably need to be able to clean PCBs, and you will need to use wet chemicals if you make your own boards.
    5) Component storage. Unless you want to spend hours digging through piles of parts, a good way of organizing components is very useful. Raaco make some nice steel cabinets for drawers, but they're not cheap.
    6) A stereoscopic assembly microscope. I would be lost without mine - it is amazing how much easier it is to position small parts (e.g. 0201 size passives) when you can see what you are doing.
    7) Multiple decent lab power supplies.
    8) A good bench multimeter: one with a computer interface for logging would be good.
    9) Digital storage oscilloscope, again with a computer interface of some sort (many have USB now) so you can store captured waveforms for later analysis and comparison.

    These are the first things that come to mind, but undoubtably I have forgotten some essentials.

    There's a wide range of things that may also be important, but it depends what you're doing so I can only speculate. For digital work you'll want a logic analyser / protocol analyser. If there are modern CPUs involved you will probably want a JTAG interface. If you are doing RF work there is a whole set of specialised equipment. If you are doing loads of SMD you might want a pick and place machine and a reflow oven. If you are making your own PCBs you might want a UV exposing unit and chemical trays, or alternatively a PCB milling machine (it takes a high end machine to do the very fine pitch work).

    1. Re:The basics by vlm · · Score: 2

      4) A sink. You will probably need to be able to clean PCBs, and you will need to use wet chemicals if you make your own boards.

      Also, frankly, RoHS or no, you wanna be washing your hands before you leave the lab. And anyone who claims to be a real electronics guy who hasn't gotten a bad thermal burn is probably lying and the best treatment is as much cold water flowing over the burn as fast as you can possibly reach the sink (like start running for the sink while you're still yelling the F word)

      If you are doing loads of SMD you might want a pick and place machine and a reflow oven.

      Only for SMD production. I've done loads of SMD for 30 years now and especially for microwave RF work doing one off I think it would take a lot longer to CAD up a solder paste mask than to just hand solder it.

      I think you'll find the cost of a PnP is having to buy everything in reels, and then having reels of unused stuff sit there. Yeah no headache with 0.1 uF decoupling caps, or if you focus all your work on one exact specific model of microcontroller chip, but everything else on the board is either buy a reel and throw most of it out, or do it by hand, and if you're doing 3/4 the board by hand, may as well do the whole thing and skip the PnP...

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  15. Some Suggestions by Ganty · · Score: 2

    1) Lots of natural light, ideally a corner room with lots of windows. You'll also need at least one of those magnifying lamps.

    2) Deep benches, at least forty inches, this is because your test equipment will take up at least a foot of space at the rear.

    3) Lots and lots of mains sockets, you'll never have enough. Wire the power through a residual current circuit breaker and a big red emergency stop switch. Make sure your family and other people around know where that emergency switch is.

    4) Four channel scope, signal generator, lab power supply (0-40V 5A) with a couple of channels, a second fixed power supply with 12V, 5V and 3.3V outputs and a bench multimeter. DON'T buy cheap, it's better to get a good second hand unit than a piece of cheap Far-East test gear. I like Hameg but I know that opinions will differ here.

    5) Anti-static mat and wrist strap.

    6) Lots and lots of storage for parts, as with mains sockets you'll never have enough storage.

    7) Decent tools, as with the test equipment don't buy cheap. I'm still using some tools that I bought twenty years ago.

    8) A set of drawers underneath your workbench for storing your tools. The plastic inserts that go inside kitchen drawers will help keep things in order.

    9) A burglar alarm and a lock on your workshop door. All this lot is expensive and you don't want it to vanish and reappear on Ebay.

    10) Air conditioning and/or heating depending on your location. Equipment calibration will drift in temperature extremes and the standard of your work will suffer.

    Ganty

  16. My Electronics Workshop - as an example by Spectrumanalyzer · · Score: 3, Informative

    By no means is my workshop the coolest in the world, but its a combination of years of experience, building and designing, and this is how it is:

    1) Raaco shelves, these are absolutely essential, youd hate to run out of components in the middle of a project, so you need these, fill the walls! http://images.toolstop.co.uk/product/6651eea4432e327d9f2017ea860bef09.jpg

    2) You need HEAPS of components. Now, youre probably not a millionaire, if you where...you wouldnt ask us geeks, youd just purchase whatever, so here is how I get my stash. I go to ham-fests, the radio amateurs usually have thousands if not millions of surplus components theyve grabbed from a run-down electronics shop or factory closedowns. Make a HUGE list of your essentials, and go collecting. Itll take a few years, but youll get there. I have MILLIONS and MILLIONS of NOS (new old stock) components from all over the world by now. Ebay is your friend, but beware of FAKE components, expensive components sold for peanuts...could be fakes, but its still relatively rare imho. Go hunting for closedowns of electronics labs, stores and much more, 70% of my components comes from there, and usually for pocket-change. Hang out...befriend the managers...listen and pay attention. Before you know it, youre the "buddy" who gets everything for nothing.

    3) Get SMD reels too. Have a copy of your DIL/DIP discretes as SMD equivalents, this is when youre finished prototyping with the discretes. You need the full size discretes in order to experiment properly. Far too many wannabe designers design everything in CAD and scratch their heads endlessly over their designs, lacking on-hands experience with the easy to handle components. This is understated today. A lab like this is essential for quick and good development.

    4) You need ROCK SOLID tables rather than fancy glass tables, so purchase some old super-solid office equipment rather than shop IKEA. Sometimes youll throw a 50-100 kgs of instrumentation on your table, and bye bye IKEA. And itll get dirty, and itll drown in solder waste (which you will eventually get everywhere). So it must be a surface solid and easy to clean.

    5) You wall should also have a tool-rack, here you need the rough tools such as screwdrivers, mini drills, bits, cutters, pliers and whatnot. Youll also need some hangers for your endless numerous test-cables. Hang the test cables within easy reach so you can keep your shop tidy and neat. This will become more important than you may think.

    6) Speaking of which, numerous of testcables you need (Yoda talk)... banana plugs, soft-silicone cables for power connections, extendable banana plug cables are essential, dont skimp on quality here. In fact, you may nearly skimp on everything except this. Test cables are notorious for going bust, and killing that spirit when you finally discover that you bought cheap crap...and spent hours just to find out your test cable is leaky, crappy and such. You need 100mhz range probes, probably higher...and more expensive, but start out with common 100-250mhz scope probes.

    7) As for test instruments, you need these basic things: 2 Benchtop multimeters, 1 portable multimeter, 1 frequency counter (min 2.6 ghz), 2 Benchtop oscilloscopes, preferably one analog and one digital...Ive got 4 of them for various reasons...you can never get enough scopes and multimeters. Function generator is essential for repair and design, a 10mhz will do, preferably with TTL level output as well as variable analog. Get a Signal generator too, 1 ghz minimum...the 1+ghz something...needs to be very stable if you operate above these frequencies. Benchtop lab PSUs... get some with both analog and digital readouts, the older generation analog psus tend to be less noisy and better at delivering at high peaks. Switchmode PSUs are needed for those higher power needs, but have at least one of each.

    1. Re:My Electronics Workshop - as an example by Spectrumanalyzer · · Score: 2

      LOL, spot on!

      Also, to continue where I left off last time (one of our clients came in the office, so I had to make the list short, work first, fun second!).

      7) continues... A nice spectrum analyzer is good to have around, especially for spotting those parasitic stray oscillations that you won't be able to escape when the time comes to commercialize your projects, the FAA are fairly strict, and your inventions need to be approved first, so better have a Spectrum analyzer handy, and make sure those stray oscillations doesnt emit from your construction. Its also an excellent instrument for designing filters.

      8) Soldering equipment. Something you dont want to skimp on is a good soldering station, preferably multiple stations as one of them WILL break down one day, usually when youre in the middle of an awesome project. Not to mention the different jobs you need done, a bigger station for those DIP/DIL discretes and cables, a smaller tip/solder for those SMD oddjobs (you may want a SMD hot air rework station as well), and a desoldering station instead of just a pump. Pump works fine, but they are a big mess, solder waste goes everywhere. Hakko and Weller are two brands professionally used, Pace too...but Id reccommend the first two as I have long term experience with these.

      9) As our long time friend and foe mr Anonymous Coward explains, a good Microscope for SMD rework - is a good thing to have around, dont need one myself yet, but I have one...just to read the darn numbers and characters on the smallest SMDs :)

      10) ESD equipment is nice to have, and some claim even mandatory. Well...Unless you work at Intel/Amd or handle million dollar test gear on component level, all you need to have are some good ESD habits. A) Always get rid of any built up charge in your body when handling sensitive components, I always touch my metal-rack before handling anything sensitive. My metal rack is big, and works well as a discharger. Also dont touch pins of switching diodes, sensitive transistors (especially HF transistors), or chips...most of the time...you wont need to...its all down to habit. Once youve worked this into your system, itll become second nature rather than an annoyance. In my MANY *MANY* years of handling components, I cant even remember destroying anyone due to static electricity, but then again...were all different, I have plenty of knowledgeable friends whos nearly infamous for zapping circuits.

      11) A logic analyzer is also nice to have if you work a lot with MCUs or/and logic based constructions. Get one thats at least 100mhz, or you wont hang with the times.

      12) Always treat your tech-friends nicely. And build yourself a solid network of regular engineer guys and hobbyist...dont be stingy, share the wealth. Because you never know that day when you desperately need that missing component that even Mouser cant help you find, and then your network saves the day. I know theyve saved my butt numerous times.

      Good luck

  17. All I can tell you is what I have by mpoulton · · Score: 4, Informative

    The flippant answer to your question is that you should get whatever equipment you think will be useful for whatever projects you're doing. If you don't know what you want, then you won't be putting it to use anyway. "Electronics" is not one discipline. It's a collection of related but different fields, like different specialties in medicine. What equipment does an operating room need? Aside from a few basics, the answer depends entirely on what kind of surgery is being performed. Having a network analyzer or a service monitor in your electronics lab is great for some types of work, but if you don't already think you'll be needing those then they're just going to collect dust anyway.

    I do a variety of different kinds of electronics work, but most of it is RF (ham radio), high voltage (Tesla coils, fun plasma experiments), or high power (switching power supplies), or all three (induction heating, BIG lasers, serious radio transmitters, kick-ass solid state Tesla coils, etc.). This requires an array of tools and equipment that ranges from common and universal to highly specialized. Here are my key assets:

    - Fluke Scopemeter 199C, 200MHz portable digital oscilloscope. If I could keep only one test instrument, this is it. Totally worth the $4k. I literally could not do much of what I do without this tool or something similar. I love my Scopemeter. It's just the right combination of portability, durability, and signal analysis capability. The electrical isolation of the fully-insulated battery-operated unit is a huge benefit sometimes too.

    - Fluke 287 digital multimeter. A very high-functioning DMM for general purpose use. RMS readings on funky waveforms over a wide frequency range. Accurate measurement of component values.

    - Klein CL2000 clamp-on AC/DC ammeter and multimeter. A really great tool for general DMM use, as well as non-contact RMS measurement of high currents, both AC and DC. This bad boy can accurately measure how much current your car draws while cranking the starter, or the true RMS current of an arc welder.

    - RigExpert AA-520 antenna analyzer. A rudimentary but powerful digital antenna analyzer for HF through UHF frequencies. Great for its basic purpose, but also capable of doing lots of neat tricks like tuning duplexers if you get creative with it.

    - Cheap pocket DMM's. They're like $20 and it's great to have several sitting around to use as monitors for various parameters on a system during testing. You can blow them up or fry them with an RF field and not feel too bad, saving your precious Fluke gear.

    - Solomon temp-controlled soldering station. Needs no explanation. I feel that there's no need to go crazy on soldering equipment. A sub-$100 station will do the job just fine, even for fine SMD work as long as it's of decent quality. PID temperature control, low mass, and a hefty heater are all requirements.

    - Granite work surface. Of all the surfaces I've worked on, I have found granite to be the best. Preferably pure black so things show up on it. It is heatproof, electrically insulating enough for any purpose, anti-static, strong, hard, and pretty affordable compared to a digital oscilloscope. A couple hundred bucks will get you a very good slab section to work on.

    - Automated external defibrillator. I often work on circuits that can kill me with one false move. Having an AED nearby and showing friends and family how to use it could save my life some day. Very rapid defibrillation (within 5 minutes, preferably 2) is the ONLY effective life-saving treatment for electrocution. With very fast intervention, the chance of survival is excellent. By the time an ambulance arrives it is far too late. It's $800 well spent if it even gives me a 1% chance of not dying. Skip this if your work doesn't involve much line-voltage or higher.

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    I am a geek attorney, but not your geek attorney unless you've already retained me. This is not legal advice.
  18. Special cables by dohzer · · Score: 2

    Cables that explode into lava if anyone tries to take them out of the room.
    Stop stealing my test leads!

  19. Here's what I have. by NixieBunny · · Score: 2

    I've been doing electronics work in my home workshop for about 35 years. My workshop is equipped with the following;

    I have 20 units of 36-drawer Akro-Mills parts cabinets, the kind with the clear plastic drawers. These have SMD components, through-hole components, nuts, bolts, connectors, switches, etc. I occasionally devote a parts cabinet to the parts for a particular project that I build a few hundred of.

    Hand tools: I have a red plastic screwdriver caddy that's full of screwdrivers. About 80 different tools to open anything I may encounter. There is a very expensive pair of diagonal cutters and a nice pair of long-nose pliers on the bench, and some tweezers and an X-acto knife.

    I have a Hakko soldering station and a Bauch & Lomb stereo microscope to see what I'm doing.

    On the bench, I have a 3 digit digital voltmeter and a couple HP bench power supplies to activate my current project.

    Next to the bench, I have a 6 foot tall rack with a Tektronix R7704 oscilloscope with appropirate plugins, a vintage Fluke 6-digit Nixie tube voltmeter, an HP 5245L Nixie tube frequency counter, a signal generator, an old HP spectrum analyzer and tracking generator, and a Nixie tube atomic clock.

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    The determined Real Programmer can write Fortran programs in any language.
  20. If your skills are like mine by petes_PoV · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I'd suggest you start with a fume extractor and fire extinguisher

    After that just buy stuff as you need it. You don't appear to know what your needs will be, so there's little point in trying to second-guess what you'll be doing. Therefore find a few good, punctual, well-stocked suppliers and keep their catalogs handy.

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    politicians are like babies' nappies: they should both be changed regularly and for the same reasons
  21. Re:on the tables by vlm · · Score: 2

    you might want to consider glass inlays

    Static issues, although that's tediously fixable with a spray. Also horrific glare if your work is properly illuminated unless you get frosted glass, in which case this is getting kinda complicated. Finally you're gonna drop stuff and a SMD component will skip across glass like a rock skipping on water, but on wood it'll still bounce but not as far. I've been doing this stuff over 30 years... you can do a lot worse than glass, so its not an awful idea, but disposable particle board wood is better.

    Also if inlayed you need precision size, whereas just "drop a sheet of wood on the desk" requires no work, so when its inevitably utterly trashed (once a decade?) the replacement process is easier.

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    "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
  22. Re:Bench and Irons by vlm · · Score: 2

    As for soldering irons, Metcal is the shit...

    Also, get one of those tip cleaners made from what looks like a brass scourer. So much better than the wretched wet sponge.

    Hakko sells a great brass turnings soldering iron cleaner. Coincidentally they sell great soldering gear, better than Metcal at about the same price. Metcal is good, don't get me wrong, in fact its very good, its just that Hakko is better. This is the soldering equivalent of the eternal vi vs emacs battle, and just like that your best bet is to try as many brands as you can and THEN select your winner (as opposed to "the" winner). Or use what your buddies use, so you can trade/share stuff. At the higher end a lot of the parts of soldering gear are swappable to different sizes sometimes different wattages.

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    "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
  23. Re:Debugging prototypes? by solidraven · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes and no. In the case of digital logic you can write a model in VHDL, Verilog or whatever floats your boat. And then do functional verification on that. Dump it in a FPGA or hope your computer is fast enough. But for analog circuits it's not as easy. SPICE can give you a pretty good idea, but it's not perfect. Even more advanced programs like ADS won't give you the full picture. As the final step you will always need to actually make a prototype and just hope it works.
    So yes you can test small parts of the design, but a large design can't be simulated without significant computing resources.

  24. Re:Bench and Irons by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

    ... and Hakko is just Aoyue with an expensive sticker!

    The brass pot scourer tip cleaners are awesome.

  25. Re:Debugging prototypes? by asynchronous13 · · Score: 2

    But for analog circuits it's not as easy. SPICE can give you a pretty good idea, but it's not perfect. Even more advanced programs like ADS won't give you the full picture. As the final step you will always need to actually make a prototype and just hope it works.

    Sorry, but if your final step is to "just hope it works" then your design is incomplete. For example, I designed an optical to electrical amplifier in the late 90's as part of the fiber optic communication system on the ISS. It was a pencil and paper design, and the first prototype worked as expected. I can guarantee what the circuit will do for any input that is within spec.

    With modern computer simulation tools a designer can absolutely expect an analog circuit to behave as the simulation does. If not, the model is incorrect, or the simulation tools are not being used properly.

  26. David Jones = nails on chalkboard by SuperBanana · · Score: 2

    UGH. Watching David Jones is like sitting in a dentist's chair because he often squeaks his voice at a high, constant monotone pitch - and he doesn't just ramble, he goes on walkabouts. Seriously, the guy needs to print a fucking agenda and tape it above the camera, and then EDIT HIS FOOTAGE.

    Most people would make a page or two on their blog with a few photos - but Jones manages to turn it into a 30 minute stream-of-consciousness youtube video, 90% of which should have been edited out.

    It's beyond painful, and I have no idea why he insists on speaking in such a squeaky voice - he has moments where he's speaking normally and tolerably...

  27. Re:Debugging prototypes? by solidraven · · Score: 2

    All models are abstractions and linearizations of reality. Assuming that your simulation software will tell you exactly if it's work is a pipe dream. Even if your math is correct and your simulation says it'll work you'll often run into problem. Even if it's something stupid. Like a few years ago we spent a week debugging a stupid OLED screen. Turns out that we had to move a PCB trace 1mm to make it work, but in that position it was causing too much noise. The manufacturer of the OLED panel never mentioned that in their datasheets or application notes. Nor did they actually know it until we contacted them. Needless to say simulation was useless at finding that problem.
    Another area particularly fond to me is MRI coil design. Good luck simulating that. There's so much going on, the system is too complex to model. You can only give a guess at what's going to happen. Yes I can design the coil and transmission system adhering to the necessary specifications. But it turns out if you put it next to a high power transmitter inside a 3T magnetic field you'll run into things behaving not quite as expected. And no amount of simulation ever really catches those weird little quirks (we even modeled the inside of the transistors we used in the pre-amplifier in case you were wondering). There are just too many obscure effects that you can't quite predict until you put it together and try, even when you test it part by part in simulation. It's more than about bandwidth and amplification mind you. The NF has to be correct, you have to avoid coupling, and so on. Though it has made me a better designer by a huge margin in the long run. But that's experience preventing the errors instead of simulation and testing.