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Has Lenovo Taken the Top PC Manufacturer Spot From HP?

angry tapir writes "Lenovo has taken the crown from Hewlett-Packard to become the world's top seller of PCs, research firm Gartner said in a study released this week. Lenovo took the top spot during a quarter in which PC shipments dropped overall due to a weak economy and pressure from mobile devices. Of the top four PC vendors, only Lenovo was able to grow its shipments. Its PC sales increased by almost 10 percent to 13.77 million units, giving it 15.7 percent of the market, Gartner said." Not so fast, says analysis firm IDC. They say that HP is still in the lead but Lenovo is very close.

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  1. Never trust Gartner on anything... by mindmaster064 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At least that's what I learned when the word "Microsoft" is in any of their reports. I would assume that it is that way with everything else too... They're like the Fox News of the tech industry -- it's all about who pays the most.

    1. Re:Never trust Gartner on anything... by multiben · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You are absolutely correct. Ten years ago I was forced to deal with them on behalf a government agency I worked for. Getting anything useful out of them requires $$$$$$$$$ and more $$$$$$$$$. $90,000 for a single membership to be precise. Or $150,000 for a premium membership. Like most people who get promoted out of tech roles into management, the people I worked for couldn't hand over the cash quick enough for the chance to hear wild and mostly unfounded predictions about the future of IT. It never ceases to amaze me that Gartner have survived this long.

  2. Bloatware turds with stupid keys by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't care if HP computers are made from magic; the bloatware that they come with is intolerable and that stupid cheap "\|" key they put as half of the left shift key is rage inducing.

    A while back I gave my family a very short list of computers that I would help them with. HP is not on that list. They buy something off the list and they are on their own. Sign number one that a computer company hates their users is when they put that crap Norton Trialware on the computer.

    People keep blah blahing about a Post-PC world coming due to tablets and smart phones. I say it all started to die the day that some MBA came up with the business model of selling a computer really cheap and then trying to screw the customer with all he money / time sucking bloatware.

    Another good example of where HP went wrong was with their printer drivers. I print maybe once a month. Thus I don't want the driver running full time in the background. It should be about 3 megs of software that takes my document and prints it. I don't need to manage the print jobs, redirect them, manage supplies, or anything else. These should be optional programs that I could install on say a machine that prints all day long. But no they want me to download 200megs of crap that then installs all kinds of document management crap. This just drives me to make sure that I buy an older used printer that has drivers built into the OS.

    I always laugh at those pictures of Jumbotron screens where a Norton AV subscription reminder has come up mid game but that is not so much the fault of the Jumbotron people as it is the greed of companies like HP.

    But this crap is now creeping into smartphones. Rogers even put McAfee AV on his Android smartphone.

    1. Re:Bloatware turds with stupid keys by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I did this in the past but I find that just finding the right version of windows to match their product key is a huge pain. Then you have to start installing drivers from HP and often those drivers come with baggage.

      So I insist that they get a machine that works out of the box. I have a very short list of machines that I will help with. At first they laughed got crap machines and then when they hit even the smallest hiccup like a printer jam I would just say, "Good luck with Google" Otherwise I just go over and start getting annoyed the first time I go to hit the left shift key. Now they spend a few extra bucks get the right machine and oddly call me a whole lot less.

      Call me overly sensitive but if I could repair cars and you bought a Daiwoo I wouldn't fix that either. I would again make a list of cars that are good value and hand that out.

      I use a mac and generally recommend those. I set my mother up with a Linux box (locked down so grandkids don't wreck it). One sister is a Lawyer so I told her to go with Windows as it is inevitable that there will be some Windows only app LawMaster2000 or such. So I am very much the right system for the right job. But when it comes to the machine don't buy it from a company that seems to hate their customers. I find HP machines are like companies that pay minimum wage; they are basically saying if it were legal they would pay even less. HP seems to be saying that if they could get away with it they would sell even worse machines.

  3. Thinkpad still the best laptop by loufoque · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've bought many laptops, and thinkpads, even recent ones, are still clearly the best laptops on the market.
    Great build, great keyboard.
    Pricey, but has all the best hardware possible, and it works well on linux.

    Everything a demanding software engineer might need.

    1. Re:Thinkpad still the best laptop by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I dont have mod points, so let me just repeat that, "Great Keyboard!". They simple have best tactile feedback I have seen.

  4. Every single one of my Lenovo Laptops kicked ass by PotatoHead · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All of them. They remain useful until they are completely broken, thrashed, just worn the fuck out dead.

    That's why they are doing well. I pay a lot for mine, run them hard, and when they are behind the curve, they get cycled home for various things, until they finally just don't work, and that process is generally painless too.

    I like the matte black finish. It's not sexy, but it endures way better than the shiny, "please don't scratch it" finishes on so many machines do. Maybe starting out a little less sexy has it's advantages. Black is damn cool in my book, and there is always that little brightly colored something on the machines, sort of like a great tie on an otherwise boring business suit. Perfect.

    The keyboards are a bit noisy, but I like that too. Always have. I can type and type and type until the buttons are all worn, and they just keep going great, no worries.

    Heavy little buggers, if you buy the more powerful ones. If I need to clock somebody with my laptop, Lenovo is there! No worries, and I can probably post to Facebook after doing it too.

    Linux is well supported across most of the machines. I love that. A Think Pad was the first machine I ran OS X on too. Worked amazingly well, and was faster than the Mac I ended up getting soon after. Gotta admit, the touch pad on the Mac is better tho, but not by much. Some Think Pad touch pads need to be worn in. Once that has happened, they work much better. Weird.

    By and large, I leave most of the value added software on the machines. It works well. HP is noisy, Dell just horrible, etc.... I get a competent disc burning kit, defrag tools, etc... Nice package that actually has some real value. On my latest machine they even tossed in the nVidia 3D licenses. Didn't know that, until I connected up to a new TV for some 3D CAD tests. Nice!! That's $14.99 for most of you out there.

    Funny thing is I was not a fan early on. One ended up at the house, and I started using it. By the time I got it, the machine was a bit dated, but damn if it wasn't just great to use. When it outlasted some HP thing or other, I was sold. Typically, I get a top machine for work purposes. Need big RAM / CPU, nVidia, etc... Once it's done, it goes home for micro-controller related projects. Long life cycle on these. Worth it.

    And... matte finish displays that are typically nice, bright, with fine dot pitches. They've wavered a bit on these on some models as of late. Gotta be a bit picky about that, but so has everybody else. Get the better display they offer, and it's no worry.

    The few times I've ordered replacement things under warranty, they shipped 'em, the work wasn't hard. Once the machine ends up at home, I find I can service it much easier than I can the HP machines, which incorporate all manner of fiddly components, glue, buttons that fail, etc... Ugh. Dell sometimes does better, and is in my mind, competitive on this front. Apple? Difficult, but then their stuff works a long time too. Fair game they are playing, but HP is just losing big on this front. Get an HP, and you better hope it works, or service might be very difficult no matter who does it.

    I expected some of this to fade when IBM let go to Lenovo. Very pleased to see they've kept the bar high so far. Hoping they continue.