Saudi Arabia Calls For Global Internet Censorship Body

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Saudi Arabia Calls For Global Internet Censorship Body

Posted by Soulskill on Friday October 12, 2012 @12:45AM from the redacted-redacted-redacted-redacted dept.

Onymous Hero writes "Following the recent YouTube video 'The Innocence of Muslims' and the subsequent Muslim violence, Saudi Arabia has stated that there is a 'crying need for international collaboration to address "freedom of expression" which clearly disregards public order.' The World Telecommunications Policy Forum (a UN body) is the vehicle by which Saudi Arabia (and possibly other states) will try to use to implement a global set of internet content standards."

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Isn't is supposed to? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-12 00:57 · Score: 5, Insightful

Freedom of expression is supposed to be uncomfortable and challenge public order. That's the whole idea.
Re:one word! by dskoll · 2012-10-12 00:59 · Score: 5, Insightful

And if women didn't dress provocatively, they wouldn't be raped.
Yeah, yeah, that's it. Suppress freedom of expression so half-crazed Islamist assholes don't have an excuse to riot. Sounds like a great plan to me.
Re:one word! by rtb61 · 2012-10-12 01:18 · Score: 5, Insightful

Now here's the catch. A riot was asked what they didn't like about the video or what was so wrong, answer, I would not watch that rubbish. So what do you do with morons who riot about content they have never even bloody seen and like automatons they are rioting because the were told to be insulted and that they should riot.
Saudi Arabian government can fuck right off. The Government of Saudi Arabia via their nominated sub-cult the Wahhabis were the shit heads telling everyone to riot. No matter what anyone writes, draws or video if the criminally insane subcult of Islam spends money on telling the rest of the Islam world to riot via the religious communication channels then a percentage of fundamentalists world wide will riot.
The problem is not the content the problem is the corrupt autocratic government of Saudi Arabia and it's fiscal campaign corruption of the US government. How many US politicians are crawling around feeding at the hand of the Saudi government and it's Wahhabi religious fanatics, shit they ran airliners into US buildings, own substantial interests in US media channels, corrupt US politicians and the US governments turns a blind eye, again and again and again.

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A modest proposal by MrLint · 2012-10-12 01:21 · Score: 5, Insightful

In response to Saudi Arabia, I would recommended that all religious people and all religion content be removed from the internet. Reactionary, close minded ideology is clearly incompatible with this fast paced open medium. I'll be better for all of us if we take a bold step and separate them.
Re:no by dskoll · 2012-10-12 01:24 · Score: 5, Insightful

Isn't a similar statement also true for some of the instructions in the Bible? Wouldn't that make it impossible (by your standards) for someone to be an observant Christian and a good person?

IMO, yes. All religion is bad. That being said, some religions are worse than others and IMO Islam is the worst of the lot.
If US policy is causing Muslim attacks . . . by walterbyrd · 2012-10-12 01:43 · Score: 5, Insightful

Then why are Muslims also attacking in so many other countries? There are Muslim terrorist attacks, all over the world, every day, and it's been going on like that for decades. Muslims are actively attacking not only Jews, and Christians, but Hindus, Buddhists, and of course, other Muslims.
How could this all be due to US mid-east policy?
1. Re:If US policy is causing Muslim attacks . . . by Desler · 2012-10-12 01:44 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  How could this all be due to US mid-east policy?
  Because it has to be! They were just peace-loving innocents until the big bad United States came along. Never mind that they've been fighting amongst themselves and with those same groups you mentioned for hundreds of years before the US ever existed.
2. Re:If US policy is causing Muslim attacks . . . by mrops · 2012-10-12 02:35 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Having lived in India as well as Saudi Arabia and then moving to the west as a Muslim, I can answer that. And answer that is all I will do, it is not a justification for the actions in any way or form.
  The answer is short, education. There is a huge populace of uneducated muslim's in the world, probably the highest percentage of the 3 major religons in the world. With education comes tolerance and understanding that so many lack. Since the 1960s, Saudi Arabia started preaching its brand of wahabism to a lot of muslims, not only at home but abroad. This gave you the likes of Taliban and extremist Islam was born. Afghans were know for revenge long before Islamist Islam took roots with Saudi Sponsored madarsas to drive away Russians (I will let you guess who thought it was a good idea to drive away Russians in this manner). All these uneducated fighters were given a cause to fight in the name of the religion.
  Living in Saudi Arabia, one thing that is quite apparent is that they are very strict in terms of what they intepret Islam. Their religious police would come out at us with sticks if we dared play soccer during prayer time. This brand of Islam was exported with oil money to a lot of places and you get terrorism.
  Not only that, a few corrupt indviduals will go murder innocent non-muslims in the name of Islam. The same breed of uneducated non-muslims would then go kill muslims and decades of enimosity lasts between societies and cultures. You get into a feedback look of hate and suffering exploding to sad events like 911.
  IMO, this generation of terrorist cannot be enlightened, the focus must be to bring the new generation up with education and tolerance. Taliban know this full well and you get 14 year old girls shot, only if the west would realise this too.
Re:Public order be damned!!! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-12 02:25 · Score: 5, Insightful

As an Ex-muslim I say mod parent up.
Anonymous because I don't want to be beheaded.
Re:One More Baby Step to Global Sharia Law by dkleinsc · 2012-10-12 02:39 · Score: 5, Insightful

What about non-militant Islam, is that evil? These aren't the "death to America" types, but the much more common "I want to go to work, come home to my family, and help raise the best and brightest kids I can, and maybe I stop by Friday prayers at the mosque" types.
For reference, here are the 5 fundamental practices of Islam:
1. Regular personal declaration in belief in monotheism, and that Mohammed is the messenger of that 1 god. This conceptually would be like a Christian reciting the Nicene Creed.
2. Praying 5 times a day. Totally harmless for anyone who's not doing this.
3. Giving at least 2.5% of ones income as charity towards the less fortunate. This seems positively virtuous.
4. Fasting, particularly during Ramadan, if practical (exceptions are made for children, pregnant women, etc). Again, harmless to anyone who isn't fasting.
5. A pilgrimage to Mecca. This could potentially support the Saudi government, but it's also basically harmless to anyone who isn't doing it, and often quite moving to those who do (Malcolm X is a great example - his experiences led him to stop hating white people due to their race).
And I should point out, for the record, that I'm not Muslim myself, but I've noticed that those who think that Islam is completely evil often know very little about what Muslims actually believe and how they practice their faith.

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Re:One More Baby Step to Global Sharia Law by Vermonter · 2012-10-12 03:42 · Score: 5, Insightful

So your proof is "because it has to be"? The Spanish inquisition was about 150,000 people, at most (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition#Death_tolls). The Salem witch trials were 19 (http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/salem/asal_de.htm). By all means, give me the rest of the numbers that add up to 99.849981 million. Now, do we get to count atheistic communism in this comparison? Because Stalin (20 million), Hitler (50 Million) and Mao (70 million) (http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm) killed or were responsible for the deaths of quite a large number of people... and in about 2.5% of the time of Christianity.