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US Navy Cruiser and Submarine Collide

An anonymous reader writes "Despite billions of dollars in advanced electronics, radar, and sonar it seems the Navy needs to install backup cameras on their boats. 'The Pentagon said late Saturday that it is investigating why a Navy submarine collided with an Aegis cruiser during routine operations at an undisclosed location.' According to ABC, 'the two ships were participating in a “group sail” along with another vessel. The three ships were participating in an anti-submarine exercise in preparation for an upcoming deployment as part of the strike group for the aircraft carrier USS Harry S Truman."

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  1. Uh... by bmo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Despite billions of dollars in advanced electronics, radar, and sonar it seems the Navy needs to install backup cameras on their boats. '

    The point of a submarine is to be undetectable. Apparenly it worked.

    My speculation, knowing submariners, is that the sub's captain was playing grab-ass with the surface ships, as they are wont to do during these kinds of exercises, due to the utter disdain for the surface fleet.

    There are two kinds of seagoing vessels. Submarines and targets.

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    1. Re:Uh... by Stickerboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This was an "anti-submarine exercise". What part of that do you think improves the training on either boat or ship if the "friendlies" talk to each other?

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    2. Re:Uh... by evil_aaronm · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Then it's epic #fail on the part of the sub for not knowing where its target is. If this had been a real emergency, said sub would've been sunk.

  2. Re:Better info on Navy Times by SpzToid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah they busted Captain Waddle too, when his submarine destroyed a Japanese fishing vessel training high school students in the Pacific in 2001. Many were killed.

    It must suck when out there in the entire Pacific Ocean you're minding your own business on a boring fishing boat when all of a sudden a US submarine decides to demo an emergency surfacing maneuver to civilians on-board the sub. What are the odds?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehime_Maru_and_USS_Greeneville_collision#Findings_of_the_court

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  3. Re:To be fair by FlyingGuy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is no fair. The CO is given complete charge of a multi-billion dollar war machine and has absolute authority over its operation and crew, therefor he has absolute responsibility for everything that happens, his fault, your fault, my fault, nobodies fault he still burns.

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  4. Re:Divert your course now! by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not a "US/Canadian" joke. It's an oldy moldy that when I first saw it had a cruise ship in the buttmonkey role. It's only recently that ugly nationalism has changed the roles around. The next time I saw it, it appeared as British ship vs. Irish lighthouse. This was in a printed book, before the internet. Honestly, like all ugly jokes, it says more about the person telling it than it does anything else.

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