Slashdot Mirror


Parent Questions Mandatory High School Chemistry

Ollabelle writes "David Bernstein, a nonprofit executive who lives in Gaithersburg, Md., has two sons, ages 7 and 15. He has previously written about how schools fail students with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. Now he turns his attention to mandated curriculum in public schools, and argues that his sons shouldn't be forced to take any science class." From the article: "There’s a concept in economics called 'opportunity costs,' which you may not have learned about because you were taking chemistry instead of economics. Opportunity costs are the sacrifices we make when we choose one alternative over another. ... When you force my son to take chemistry (and several other subjects, this is not only about chemistry), you are not allowing him that same time to take a public speaking course, which he could be really good at, or music, or political science, or creative writing, or HTML coding for websites."

19 of 866 comments (clear)

  1. Let's Play the "If Only You'd Taken" Game by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now I don’t begrudge chemistry, which has brought forth many of the great inventions of our time, from the pain killer I took an hour ago to the diet soda I’m sipping on now (I’m actually sipping on Scotch. In fact, my very own mother, who if I am lucky will never lay eyes on this article, is a chemist, and believes that chemistry is the most noble of human pursuits and doesn’t understand how I, a former philosophy major, was able to eke out a living.

    And if you wouldn't have wasted your time on that public speaking course and instead used that opportunity cost to take a class in a Lisp language like Scheme you'd understand why your failure to close that left parenthesis is driving me bat shit insane right now.

    --
    My work here is dung.
    1. Re:Let's Play the "If Only You'd Taken" Game by msauve · · Score: 4, Funny

      1) Let me help.
      2) Oops, was that too much help?

      --
      "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
    2. Re:Let's Play the "If Only You'd Taken" Game by EnsilZah · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is terrible, a left paren may be yearning to be closed but a right paren, that requires a time machine.

    3. Re:Let's Play the "If Only You'd Taken" Game by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you wouldn't have wasted your time on that Lisp language course and instead used that opportunity cost to take a class in physics, you could be working on that time machine right now.

  2. Re:Translation by Vanderhoth · · Score: 5, Funny

    You forgot baking! Cookies and cake are the two most important things to use chemistry for.

  3. goes both ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    you can skip Chem when I can skip PE.
    Sometimes you have to do stuff you don't have any interest in.

  4. Re:Translation by GungaDan · · Score: 5, Funny

    This summer I had to convert a dozen or so moles to mulch. I tried to convert them to cat food but the reaction failed for insufficient feline catalyst.

    --
    Eloi are stupid, throw morlocks at them!
  5. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    The kid shouldn't be taking classes just to think or just for challenge. The kid should be taking courses directly aligned with their chosen future. This goes for college/university as well.

    It's good to be specialized.

  6. Re:It's not just about chemistry. by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Funny

    Also it teaches you basic fucking chemistry which comes in handy if you work for a living.

    Love is chemistry. What you're referring to is physics.

    But either way, the kid'll get plenty of opportunity to learn in college what he misses in high school.

    --
    I am not a crackpot.
  7. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    You forgot baking! Cookies and cake are the two most important things to use chemistry for.

    Yeah, but I heard the cake is a lie.

  8. Re:Translation by ciderbrew · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can't wait to make Thermite with my son.

  9. Opportunity Cost Concept Taught By Mastercard by guttentag · · Score: 5, Funny

    Chemistry class: 39 minutes per day
    Teaching a kid a variety of subjects so he will have something to talk about when he does take public speaking in college: 18 years
    Cleaning up chemicals spilled by your ADD kid who wasn't paying attention: 6 minutes
    Getting acquainted with the flow rate of the emergency eyewash station: 5 minutes
    Teaching a kid that ignoring science can be hazardous to your health: Priceless

    There are some things you will never find time for. For everything else, there are pretentious self-important jerks like David Bernstein.

  10. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Biology is really chemistry.

    Chemistry is really physics.

    Physics is really math.

    And math is really hard.

    Lets go shopping!

  11. Re:My son will not be a scientist? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

    He states very bluntly that his 15 year old son "will not be a scientist". How does he know that?

    This is how he takes care of that. No son of his is going to become a scientist!

    This reminds me of a joke my dad told me: There was a man who was terrified of air-travel because he thought someone might blow up the plane. One day, the man's job required him to fly to another city. Soon after boarding, the stewardess was adjusting bags in the overhead bin, and accidentally spilled his bag, exposing a bundle of dynamite! The stewardess asked the man, "Why on earth would you bring a bomb on a plane???" To which the man calmly replied, "What do you think the odds are of there being TWO bombs on one plane?"

  12. Re:Translation by jo_ham · · Score: 3, Funny

    It sounds like your cat-alyst was already saturated.

  13. Re:Translation by Golddess · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm afraid to ask why you need more than 2 gloves...

    --
    "I'm not sure I like the fugnutish tone you used in your post!" -RogL (608926)-
  14. Re:Translation by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Four sheep, three pairs of gloves. Avoid cross-contamination. Hmm...

    Put on pair #1 of gloves.

    Put on pair #2 on top of pair #1. Do whatever it is you're doing to sheep #1. (I won't judge!)

    Remove pair #2, leave pair #1 on. Put on pair #3. Do whatever to sheep #2.

    Remove pair #3, turn inside-out and put them back on over pair #1.Do whatever to sheep #3.

    Remove pair #3 and discard. Turn pair #2 inside-out and put them back on over pair #1. Do whatever to sheep #4.

    Remove and discard pair #2 and pair #1.

    You don't learn practical problem solving like that in Public Speaking class! :)
    =Smidge=

  15. Re:Translation by firex726 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Billy was a chemist.
    Now Billy is no more.
    What billy thought was H20.
    Was H2SO4.

  16. Re:Last, first, mumble... by blackcoot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why do I feel an overwhelming desire to read "non-profit executive" as "unemployed douche bag with too much access to a thesaurus"?