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Ask Slashdot: Rectifying Nerd Arrogance?

An anonymous reader writes "Like some Slashdot users, I began attending university last month for computer science. The experience represents my first time away from home and I'm almost constantly with my peers, many of whom are also computer science students. Recently, I have become cognizant of the many negative opinions associated with a 'normal' person's perspective of what a nerd is like. Conversing with my college computer science peers (many of whom are quite nerdy), I have noticed that many of them are extremely arrogant. Upon introspection, I have come to the realization that I am also very similar to them and am very curious, but worried. I have noticed similar personality characteristics on Slashdot. Where does this nerd arrogance come from? How can it be rectified? I am concerned that, if I do not abolish these annoying tendencies, I may have trouble later on in life with my career and relationships. Has anybody run into problems in life with the arrogance that seems to be so prevalent with nerds? If so, how did you handle the situation?"

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  1. I think that's all college students by crazyjj · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm pretty sure that's not unique to CS students. If you think arrogance is a trait only CS majors have, head over to a 500-level philosophy class sometime and talk to some of those majors. Hell, go to pretty much *any* high level class in *any* major.

    The problem isn't the major, the problem is the combination of youth and a little knowledge. Most 21-year-olds are just knowledgeable enough to be cocky, but not knowledgeable enough to appreciate the fact that they really don't know shit. I believe Socrates observed this phenomenon even in his time, and commented on it. "Stop being such cocky pricks! You don't even appreciate how dumb a bunch of shits you are yet, you little fuckers!" he would tell his students (I paraphrase the Greek).

    No worries, though. Ultimately, life will fix the problem.

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    1. Re:I think that's all college students by SuperMooCow · · Score: 3, Funny

      I guess I really am smarter than everyone. - Lt. Commander Data

    2. Re:I think that's all college students by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You guys are just being mean

    3. Re:I think that's all college students by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Intelligence is thought to follow a Guassian distribution for large populations. So average and median would be the same.

    4. Re:I think that's all college students by mattack2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      So if a dumb person gets hit by a bus, does that mean that the bus is a human de-Gausser?

    5. Re:I think that's all college students by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Funny

      What if you get the entry-level job and realize your peers are retarded and worst of all lazy?

      I've never worked in government or academia ;p

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  2. Proper /. nerd response by boristdog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shut up, N00b.

    1. Re:Proper /. nerd response by MRe_nl · · Score: 1, Funny

      Bro, do you even code.

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  3. MIT School of Charm by drwho · · Score: 4, Funny

    After living for many years in Cambridge, I have become accustomed to this attitude. I want to make a T-shirt "I act like I am smarter than you because I am. I go to MIT".

  4. Easy by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Has anybody run into problems in life with the arrogance that seems to be so prevalent with nerds? If so, how did you handle the situation?

    Easy, I just stopped hanging out with so many people who were wrong all the time.

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    1. Re:easy by Provocateur · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you don't spec 'em right. Idiot.

      FTFY.

      Sorry! I *was* trying to stay on topic!

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  5. A good start by hort_wort · · Score: 5, Funny

    Step 1: Use smaller, more popular words when speaking. Be happy that you can communicate with the largest number of people that way instead of just an elite group. I'm just too lazy to look up "cognizant". :P

    Step 2: Don't give advice to people in a slightly insulting way.

    Step 3: .... oops.

  6. easy by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rectifying nerd arrogance: Yer gonna need a nerd diode for that.

    But watch out. Indiscriminate use of a bridge style rectifier will get ya 1.414 x the nerdiness. That can blow out yer nerd capacitors if you don't spec' 'em right.

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  7. Re:It's only arrogance if you're wrong. by khayman80 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's only arrogance if you're wrong. If you are correct, it's knowledge. If you're wrong, it's arrogance. Sadly, many employers do not understand this little bit of wisdom. [Jane Q. Public, 2012-10-25]

    Jane, are you sure you want to use that criterion? Let's reminisce...

    How do they know they were the same neutrinos they launched out? [Dr Max]

    ... they know the beginning ratio and ending ratio of the different types. If they are not the same, then some must have flipped (or rotated, or whatever language the neutrino guys use these days). [global_diffusion]

    Not necessarily. They could be different neutrinos, caused by atoms in the way absorbing some neutrinos and emitting others. I am not sure but I suspect that is what GP [DrMax] was getting at. Rather than evidence of neutrinos actually changing from one type to another, it seems just as likely (more likely?) that intervening matter performed a conversion. Just as, say, a crystal or a gas can "change" a laser's color by absorbing photons and then emitting others of a different frequency, maybe matter is absorbing these neutrinos and emitting others with different properties. [Jane Q. Public, 2011-06-17]

    Nonlinear crystals can change a laser's color by absorbing photons and then emitting others of a different frequency because photons are mediators of the electromagnetic force, so they interact with comparatively large (~10^(-10) m) electron clouds. But neutrinos only interact via gravity (irrelevant here) and the weak force which has a comparable range of ~10^(-18) m. Since the cross section determines how likely interactions are, neutrinos are roughly ten thousand trillion times less likely to interact with matter than photons. This is just an approximation, but experiments yield similarly tiny cross sections.

    If neutrinos have to interact with intervening matter before hitting the detector, an extra interaction is involved. That's why Chris Burke pointed out that detecting neutrino flavor change due to an interaction with intervening matter would depend on the square of the interaction probability. Detection in the conventional flavor oscillation theory just depends on the interaction probability because it only involves a single interaction, so it's trillions of times more likely to explain the observed electron neutrino events.

    In fact, that T2K paper acknowledged a much bigger source of noise on page 8: the muon neutrino beam was slightly contaminated by electron neutrinos. This contamination doesn't invalidate their results because it only explains ~1.5 out of 6 observed electron neutrino events.

    Anyway, the processes that change a laser's color are given names like "second-harmonic generation" (where a crystal combines two photons into one, commonly used in green laser pointers) and