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Feds Continue To Consider Linux Users Criminals For Watching DVDs

An anonymous reader sent in a link to an article in Wired about the latest DMCA loophole hearing. Bad news: the federal government rejected requests that would make console modding and breaking DRM on DVDs to watch them legal. So, you dirty GNU/Linux hippies using libdvdcss better watch out: "Librarian of Congress James Billington and Register of Copyrights Maria Pallante rejected the two most-sought-after items on the docket, game-console modding and DVD cracking for personal use and 'space shifting.' Congress plays no role in the outcome. The regulators said that the controls were necessary to prevent software piracy and differentiated gaming consoles from smart phones, which legally can be jailbroken. ... On the plus side, the regulators re-authorized jailbreaking of mobile phones. On the downside, they denied it for tablets, saying an 'ebook reading device might be considered a tablet, as might a handheld video game device.'" So you can jailbreak a phone, but if it's 1" larger and considered a "tablet" you are breaking the law.

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  1. They told me... by AntiBasic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They told me if I voted for McCain, we'd see a technology incompetent administration increasingly beholden to media conglomerates... and they were right.

    1. Re:They told me... by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's cute but... The Register of Copyrights is appointed by the Librarian of Congress. James Billington was appointed by Reagan.

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    2. Re:They told me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey guys, America's new emperor is here!

      But seriously, what's a Linux article doing on Slashdot? This is a Microsoft and Apple site now. We don't need any distractions from our marketing messages.

    3. Re:They told me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      But things aren't as simple as THAT and you know it. But I guess if you want to post hyperbole as an AC, you may well be better served by... oh cool, we don't have to finish sentences around here!

    4. Re:They told me... by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I believe the OP was trying to make the point that there's no fucking difference between Republicans and Democrats, their all beholden to their political sponsors, and he was completely correct in that. You, on the other hand, are trying to defend your party of choice by bringing up some obscure appointment that happened 30 years ago, as if the current administrations hands were tied and they could do nothing to stop it... when you know for a fact that's not the case. Keep towing that party line and the next thing you know we'll all be monitored 24/7 by our government overlords and the president will be able to order US citizens deaths without so much as a pen stroke... oh wait... fuck... Good job buddy. Hope your children enjoy the world you made them.

    5. Re:They told me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For starters, Republicans think the U.S. wasn't founded on separation of church & state, and that women, minorities, homosexuals, or anyone else that isn't a straight, white, Christian male are generally inferior. They also want you to think your body is something to be ashamed of and that abstinence-only education is the way to go despite mountains of data.

      You really love that Kool Aid. Think about this for a second. You act as if we couldn't sit here and generate equally retarded and dishonest tropes for Democrats. Same party lines, same BS, different day.

      They're not that different. 95% of what they supposedly disagree on is bullshit they don't really care about. They have to differentiate on party lines to get their half of the votes.. that's it. Anything more 'radical' than that and any congress would prevent them from doing it... and they know it.

      We've got two guys that both believe in the great wizard. Both are anti-gun. Both are wealthy politicians. They're nearly identical on health care, but one will pretend he's not for political reasons. Neither are going to actually fix our debt or substantially improve our tax situation. Neither gets to bomb Iran. Neither is going to do anything significant with social security or medicare. Neither get to kill or fund PBS by being elected. Neither are actually going to "get tough" with China. Neither gets to decide on a budget. We're out of Iraq and we're leaving Afghanistan in the next year either way. Bullshit aside, neither has a strong economic plan for the next four years other than, "let it do what it's doing".

      It's not that we're apathetic, we're just disillusioned, because we know "different" means "unelectable". All the rest is just about being manipulated by two old PR machines.

    6. Re:They told me... by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I believe the puppet on the right has MY interests at heart...well I believe the puppet on the left shares MY beliefs!...Hey wait a minute, there's one guy controlling both puppets!"...Bill Hicks.

      The man has been dead over 20 years and if anything his words are more true now than they were then, if you think EITHER puppet will give a shit about what you think or want you are delusional, its like walking up to Ronald McDonald to complain about the bad service you got at the Mickey D's in Dallas. They are just puppets, they smile, they wave, they kiss the babies and sell you bullshit, no different than Ronald.

      You can join the tea party, grass roots your ass off, it just doesn't matter because you can't change a corrupt system by working within that system...why? Well because the system is corrupt so they'll just change the rules so you can't win, duh! Look up John Stewart on Ron Paul where he has clip after clip of the MSM treating Paul as "he who should not be named" and when one of the reporters finally says to the news anchor "Hey we are talking more about Christie and Palin who aren't even running than Paul who is and gaining in the polls" the news anchor says "Well if you get footage of Palin or Christie send it in, you can keep the Paul stuff" complete with a douchebag smirk on his face.

      I would urge everyone to watch this video about voting before Nov 6th because frankly he says it better than I ever could. people have been voting for fricking DECADES against the corporate masters, all for naught. You simply can't change a corrupt system from within that system, anymore than playing 3 card monty for a hundred years will let you finally find the lady. Its a scam, a hoax, its a game those at the top play to make the peasants be docile and think they have a say. Its nothing but pro wrestling kayfabe, where they act like they hate each other then get taken to the same resort by a lobbyist after the cameras quit rolling and find out what they are REALLY gonna do.

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    7. Re:They told me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Keep towing that party line

      Toeing. The phrase is to 'toe the line', not to tow it.

    8. Re:They told me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Democrats don't have failed social engineering programs. They worked as intended, they have kept their base.

    9. Re:They told me... by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Its NOT that "different is unelectable" its "different gets banned from the MSM by the corporate overlords" so that John and Jane Public never hear of it, simple as that.

      If you don't believe me look up "John Stewart Ron Paul" and you'll find a video where he just strung together clips of the entire MSM treating Paul as "he who shall not be named" even going so far as to name one two and FOUR on a list but being DAMNED careful to avoid even saying the name who who came in third. The clip ends with a clip of a reporter actually saying to an anchor "We are here talking more about Christie and Palin who aren't even running than in Paul who is climbing up in the polls and appearing here tonight" and the anchor gets a douchebag smirk and says "Well if you get footage of Palin or Christie let us know, you can keep the Paul stuff"

      So its actually very simple, its no different than "free speech zones" a mile away from the nearest camera. Since the entire MSM is owned by a handful of billionaires THEY, not you, get to decide who runs, because they control the airwaves, they decide what clips to broadcast of any debate, they can make anyone who doesn't suck the corporate cock come off like a nut or even just make them magically disappear by not even acknowledging their existence.

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  2. 12 days til we toss out the Bush Administration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sure hoping for some good changes.

    1. Re:12 days til we toss out the Bush Administration by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It doesn't matter who's nominally in charge. The puppets dance to the tune of the hands controlling the strings.

    2. Re:12 days til we toss out the Bush Administration by SolitaryMan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bush wasn't just corrupt, he was stupid as hell.

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    3. Re:12 days til we toss out the Bush Administration by AntiBasic · · Score: 5, Funny

      He was the never the president of all 57 states like Obaaaaama.

  3. SNAFU by SolitaryMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The law is still fucked up, nothing to see here

    'ebook reading device might be considered a tablet, as might a handheld video game device.'"

    And if some corporation pays enough, it also might be considered a tractor.

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    1. Re:SNAFU by Dyinobal · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn I hope they do this because then I can get some agricultural tax breaks and government assistant to subsidize my ever growing ebook collection.

  4. Re:duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    What unlicensed system?
    Everybody who's playing DVDs on Linux already has a license, because they have a licensed DVD player in the computer, and already paid the Microsoft tax.
    The patent holders can't ask for more than that.

  5. An easy solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Don't watch DVD, download higher quality .mkv from pirate bay instead.

  6. Not so fast by macemoneta · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've bought a dozen retail DVD players (standalone and PC) over the years, each of which came with a license either in the form of internal firmware or standalone software. I have two DVD drives still in use, both in Linux PCs. I should have plenty of licenses - if that's what they in fact are. The idea that I can hold a dozen licenses and yet not be authorized to play legally obtained content on two surviving drives because someone in the MPAA doesn't like my completely legal operating system is an abomination of logic, reason, and ethics.

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  7. Bingo. This is the precise point of law. by bdwoolman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IANAL. But selling you a locked box you cannot open is self contradictory. The idea that you sold me something (not licensed...sold) and I can't access any part of it runs counter to every principle of private property. What if I sold you a suitcase and said, "By the way, dude, there is a locked compartment in it to which I have the key. You can't open it to take the brick out of it. So you will have to carry my brick wherever you go or I will sue you and have the authorities arrest you for theft if you break into my private compartment in your suitcase and remove my property. It is a complete fallacy to contend that I would retain any claim to that compartment if I sold you the case. And you would be well within your rights to break the box and take out the brick. To say otherwise runs counter to the very nature of the process of 'sale'.

    The DMCA is beyond a miscarriage of justice it's a coat-hanger scrape job on the lady herself. Has this absurd provision ever had a constitutional test? I do not think any US Attorney has brought a case against a person for watching a DVD with unlicensed encryption software. Or for backing up a DVD. They went after the hapless dcss coder with a vengeance as I recall. But a schmo watching a DVD on Linux? Can anyone recall a case? I can't. Please correct me if I am wrong. IMHO a law no one can or will prosecute is no law at all.

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  8. Re:duh by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's my property. I bought it. It is a thing. There is no license.

    THAT was adjudicated for books over 100 years ago.

    Me using my own personal property should not be considered illegal or immoral.

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  9. SO what. Bypassing DRM to view a DVD is LEGAL Now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Thanks to a little known case against GE, it is now legal to break DRM to watch a move or play a game.

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/07/23/29099.htm

    >Merely bypassing a technological protection that restricts a user from viewing or using a work is insufficient to trigger the (Digital Millennium Copyright Act's) anti-circumvention provision," Judge Garza wrote for the New Orleans-based court.
              "The DMCA prohibits only forms of access that would violate or impinge on the protections that the Copyright Act otherwise affords copyright owners."

    This referred to GE cracking a hardware dongle to use software. If that's not a violation of the DMCA, then nothing that simply enables use is a violation.

  10. Re:Time to stop supporting them. by Legion303 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I immediately copy with Magic DVD Copier - it removes the "Cannot get to the menu until you watch our ads and antipiracy notice" nonsense, and I can choose to copy the movie only.

    I skip the middleman and download the movie directly. If they're going to treat me like a fucking criminal, I'm going to act like a fucking criminal.

  11. How to overthr^H^H^H^H^H^H^H take over the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These are actually steps for the taking over of ANY democracy full of greedy shits and morons, but I've written it specifically for the US of A, reword as necessary for use with some other alleged democracy: (Note, a violent overthrow is never effective in a large, prosperous country, and there's no reason to try, especially when it's likely to be so ruinous to you, and unlikely to be successful in the face of the massive amount of force the military could bring to bear. Also, if you follow these steps, you'll find there's an easier, quieter way, unlikely to get you jailed or killed, AND, more importantly, it doesn't risk harm to the precious GDP the somnambulant populace keeps churning out each year...)

    Step 1. Get a bunch of rich assholes together, convince them to form a conspiracy to rule the United States of America. (Or if you're rich enough, and you're enough of an asshole, do this all this by yourself.)
    Step 2. Through a program of massive brib^H^H^H^H campaign contributions, buy control over the Republican Party.
    Step 3. Through a program of massive brib^H^H^H^H campaign contributions, buy control over the Democratic Party.
    Step 4. Attain control over the news media in the country; use it to distract the country from the fact that you now own the government, for all intents and purposes. Have the parties grind the government to a halt, and paralyze public discourse by chumming the political waters with bullshit that doesn't matter, like the use of the word "retarded" or, well just about any other thing, pretending that cultural minutia are somehow a more important topic of discussion than national policy. Bombard people with warning after warning about how much danger other nations' "extremists" present, so you can continue to ensure the cowardly populace will quake with fear and cede their rights to your puppet government if only it will keep them safe, as they quietly piss, not only all over themselves, but also all over the sacrifices made be the great patriots who wrested our country first from the hands of the English, then from those of the Native Americans, then from the French, the Mexicans, the Russians, and finally from the Polynesians. (No, I'll pull no punches here, as you can see.)
    Step 5. Use the control you've corruptly achieved to ensure that each party picks ONLY people whom you are okay seeing get elected, to nominate for public office.
    Step 6. Have the "elected" officials you own appoint people to the Supreme Court of the United States who will support continued power grabbing by the legislative and executive branches, since the power the "elected" officials have is now really YOUR power, and you want to maintain and expand it until you're not only above the law, but so far above it that you are in effect, a king.
    Step 7. Use the legislature you now control to ensure that certain groups of people are continuously disenfranchised, and are in a position either to starve, or have to work like virtual slaves, such as "illegal" immigrants, blacks, and anyone who can't see for himself the value of a good education.
    Step 8. Use the court system you now corruptly control to issue judgements that ensure people have progressively less freedom every day, to keep money flowing into the coffers of the corporations you control, such as the movie and music industries. This will also increase the freedom and power you have through your ownership and control of corporations, which are now classed as "people". (Forgetting of course, that these "people" are functionally immortal, and cannot be punished the way a real person can, by being jailed, for instance.) Periodically siphon money out of the system through taking advantage of the poorly regulated financial sector, robbing people of their retirements, and laughing all the way to the Cayman Islands, while they continue to slave away until they're dead.
    Step 9. Reduce funding for education, because, AND NEVER EVER FORGET THIS: education is your enemy. By this point, you can do most of this remotely, from som