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Canadian Police Want New Internet Surveillance Tools

danomac writes "Police agencies in Canada want to have better tools to do online surveillance. Bill C-30 was to include new legislation (specifically Section 34) that would give police access to information without a warrant. This can contain your name, your IP address, and your mobile phone number. This, of course, creates all sorts of issues with privacy online. The police themselves say they have concerns with Section 34. Apparently, the way it is worded, it is not just police that can request the information, but any government agent. Would you trust the government with this kind of power?"

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  1. Fight this now! by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As somebody who grew up in Germany, I have seen ample historic precedent where this kind of snooping leads. Either fight it now or explain to your children in a decade or two why you did not prevent a surveillance state, where there is no free speech and no tolerated dissent.

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  2. Works two ways. by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Canadian citizens want to police. While we're at it, we also want new politicians.

    These ass-clowns just don't get it that while laws that enable them to use new technologies are reasonable, laws that bypass established due process aren't. I don't care that computers allow much more efficient investi-trolling. You still get a warrant, or you don't get the data, in my world. Anything else - C-30 or not - is illegal to me and puts the government and police in an adversarial position relative to their constituents.

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  3. Think of the cost... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 4, Interesting
    A story not many minutes old //yro.slashdot.org/story/12/10/28/0531250/cash-strapped-states-burdened-by-expensive-data-security-breaches tells us that the majority of US states cannot afford to keep data secure, and also cannot afford the cost of keeping it insecure.

    The obvious conclusion is that keeping data is very expensive and you should be trying to find ways not to keep more, not finding reasons to hold more!

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  4. Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This law comes up for debate about once every year or two and, to date, Canadians keep shouting it down. Hopefully people up here continue to do so. I'm fine with the RCMP having access to this information with a warrant, but warrantless access by anyone is a bad idea.

  5. We need a Wikileaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    What we need is Wikileaks to reveal whose really behind it and why. Like the Swedish prosecution of Pirate Bay, where torrent tracking is equated to copyright infringement is equated to a criminal act. Wikileaks revealed this was a demand from the US during secret discussions on laws that would be passed. Interesting the discussion was between the Swedish govt and the US govt and didn't include Swedish people:

    http://torrentfreak.com/wikileaks-cable-shows-us-involvement-in-swedish-anti-piracy-efforts-101207/

    Interestingly, I did a search to find that wikileak link, and found this one , which shocked me somewhat and explains why they want Assange prosecuted for something:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8202745/WikiLeaks-Swedish-government-hid-anti-terror-operations-with-America-from-Parliament.html

    "The secret cables, seen by The Daily Telegraph, disclose how Swedish officials wanted discussions about anti-terrorism operations kept from public scrutiny. ....Making the arrangement formal would result in the need for it to be disclosed to Parliament, they said. "

    Wow, the Swedish government had closer links to the Bush government (this was 2008) than it does to the Swedish Parliament.

  6. Unlimited access by fox171171 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Probably won't be that big a deal... they'll likely be as disappointed with their "unlimited internet access" as I am with mine.

  7. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    No. Privacy is a right (even the UN thinks so) and I will say no as many times as I have to. I believe Bill C-30 is more than a threat to privacy though, it is a threat to Canada's democracy. Strong crypto must be allowed for a digital democracy.

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